Official BBR Tier List v6

[MariofortheWin]

Mario should be A list

Mario is able to use f.l.u.d.d. to shoot the banana peels and diddy kong off the stage and use fireballs like mindgames just like diddy kong and bananas.
also can they use his bananas against him

 

[Chuee]

um why is g&w not on the tech chase list? if anything he relies on it more than any other single character in this whole game

I'd say snake uses it more.
Also tbh D3 doesn't even use tech chasing hardly at all.
I rarely see D3's use dthrow on non-CGable characters.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Sonic will tech chase your **** with spindash > footstool.

 

[-LzR-]

Mario is able to use f.l.u.d.d. to shoot the banana peels and diddy kong off the stage and use fireballs like mindgames just like diddy kong and bananas.
also can they use his bananas against him

This troll account is both more awesome and fun than Doc King.

 

[BlueXenon]

If balanced brawl is used in tournaments, there would be no need for a tier list and everyone would be happy with their character

 

[Ussi]

We've had the whole using hacks in tourneys argument already

we don't even use tripless hacks which everyone would probably just love to have on.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

Doesn't mario counter snake because he can fireball to fsmash??????

also his final smash is way better than snake's, you can aviod all the htis, mario's breaks shields and cures cancer

 

[Flayl]

If balanced brawl is used in tournaments, there would be no need for a tier list and everyone would be happy with their character

You're assuming BBrawl is correctly balanced.

 

[Ussi]

I wouldn't mind some bbrawl

I love having Ike's nair IASA at 38 frames and a QD that's safe on block

but alas, hacks are not tourney standard for a reason

 

[Starwave]

Doesn't mario counter snake because he can fireball to fsmash??????

also his final smash is way better than snake's, you can aviod all the htis, mario's breaks shields and cures cancer

Seriously though, Mario has the worst final smash in the game, by a large margin actually. Its impossible to actually land it on a competent player, and DI wrecks it.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I'd say ZSS' is much worse. Olimar's is kind of bad too. All you have to do to avoid it is jump.

 

[Steam]

Lucario has the worst by far. Lol

 

[Nidtendofreak]

DK's is crap.

 

[MariofortheWin]

Mario is way better than most people think!

Mario is a good player if u know how 2 use him. I seen some training videos from FireMario129 on youtube. His true potential has never even been close to being shown to all of u. The cape and the fludd is more than meets the eye. Mario has more mind games than diddy kong. Snake equipment is useless to a great mario player. Their should be more great mario players.

 

[Ussi]

mindgames belong to players, not characters

What should happen (in theory) doesn't always happen too (like IC 0-deaths always)

 

[MariofortheWin]

FireMario129 knows many mindgames. If mario mains use him as good as or better than FireMario129, than mario would be on higher tier.

 

[Circle_Breaker]

maybe firemario129 should start attending tournaments...

 

[Juushichi]

Lol. As an ex-Mario main, it's pretty obv that the character is kind of ***. Maybe he's not as *** as I thought but he's still ***.

Also, when one says that Zero Suit is "the hardest character to use", what makes her that much harder than any other character?

Are you talking technically harder? Functionally harder? Harder to use in today's meta? Harder to apply general game skill with?

 

[vVv Rapture]

Mario is a good player if u know how 2 use him. I seen some training videos from FireMario129 on youtube. His true potential has never even been close to being shown to all of u. The cape and the fludd is more than meets the eye. Mario has more mind games than diddy kong. Snake equipment is useless to a great mario player. Their should be more great mario players.

Samuel L. Jackson is a good actor if u know what role to put him in. I seen some movie trailers from Warner Brothers on youtube. His true potential has never even been close to being show to all of u. The snakes on a plane is more than meets the eye. Jackson has more acting qualities than Owen Wilson. Christian Bale is useless to the great Samuel L. Jackson. Their should be more actors trying to be like Samuel L. Jackson.

#whydididothatlol

 

[Coney]

Doc King, Zss always has been and always will be infinitely harder to play as than DDD. the fact that he has like one hard to pull off AT doesn't mean he isn't easy as **** to use in general gameplay. Zss requires much more overall difficult tactics in her game play.

as someone that has used both in tournament pretty regularly, this isn't really true...

zss isn't really harder to use than ddd. obviously i'm not playing her at a super tippy-top high level, but that doesn't really matter tbh. there's a difference between being functional easy and practical easy

ddd is easy in that his moves are generally slow and only serve one purpose each (someone directly in front of you but out of grab range? ftilt, yo). he is practically difficult though, which is why ddd hasn't been a viable pick for the last two-thirds of brawl's lifetime. maneuverability and mobility is why ddd sucks and is difficult to play at the high level when you have to work around diddy's bananas or get to a falco that is intent on just shdl'ing and phantasming when you get close or a metaknight in love with the edge.

if you're good you get a free win on, like, ROB or link or something, but i can tell you in three years of maining ddd i can count the amount of times i have gotten free set wins from bad characters on maybe one hand, probably two.

if we're not talking about the high level then yeah i guess ddd is easy, but when has that ever been the focal point?

Mario is a good player if u know how 2 use him. I seen some training videos from FireMario129 on youtube. His true potential has never even been close to being shown to all of u. The cape and the fludd is more than meets the eye. Mario has more mind games than diddy kong. Snake equipment is useless to a great mario player. Their should be more great mario players.

FireMario129 knows many mindgames. If mario mains use him as good as or better than FireMario129, than mario would be on higher tier.

i am absolutely certain that this man is firemario129, and it makes his posts so much funnier knowing that he's talking in the third person like he's the ****ing rock

 

[Linkshot]

I wouldn't mind some bbrawl

I love having Ike's nair IASA at 38 frames and a QD that's safe on block

but alas, hacks are not tourney standard for a reason

We're too stubborn to accept anything not official.
Even though clearly the "official" stuff is in the vein we -don't- want.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

ZSS isn't hard to play.

We're too stubborn to accept anything not official.
Even though clearly the "official" stuff is in the vein we -don't- want.

Yeah, confuses me. You'd think that since Nintendo et al don't want anything to do with our community we'd stop trying so hard to please them. I think it has more to do with Smashboards being owned by MLG and the logistics of setting up tournaments with 20 hacked Wiis.

 

[Shaya]

ZSS isn't hard to play.

It is when you expect all her aerials to be good and have arcs like a much better character or two (<3 Nriddlez)

 

[Linkshot]

ZSS has some weird techs.
Looking at you, ROB.

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

ZSS' aerials are good. Bair and fair are both awesome. Uair is great.

She has great individual moves as aerials I'm just not always sure she has a complete kit. Her bair and fair serve basically the same purpose outside of using fair creatively in certain match-ups, and her nair would be a good move if it didn't have so many weird limitations.

ZSS' air game is pretty good, but they are really only punishes, and uair for juggling sometimes. The real beef is in her ground game which looks really bad on paper but is actually kind of solid just because dsmash and dtilt are really scary and safe.

 

[-Jumpman-]

ZSS' aerials are good. Bair and fair are both awesome. Uair is great.

She has great individual moves as aerials I'm just not always sure she has a complete kit. Her bair and fair serve basically the same purpose outside of using fair creatively in certain match-ups, and her nair would be a good move if it didn't have so many weird limitations.

ZSS' air game is pretty good, but they are really only punishes, and uair for juggling sometimes. The real beef is in her ground game which looks really bad on paper but is actually kind of solid just because dsmash and dtilt are really scary and safe.

Fair doesn't connect, how is it good lawl =|

 

[phi1ny3]

It's situational, but fair is still really powerful (iirc about as powerful as bair, and in the event both hits connect it does like 17%), and iirc you can make it still somewhat safe.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

isn't her lack of an actual short hop still a problem with her aerials?

 

[Doc King]

Oh, so 4 people can tech chase. Now it makes sense.

Doc, you make it sound like Dedede is the only character that can read moves.
inb4wolfsnakeganon

I'm just saying this because it's an option that i think imo is never mentioned as much and underused a lot.

um why is g&w not on the tech chase list? if anything he relies on it more than any other single character in this whole game

Forgot about him.

Mario is able to use f.l.u.d.d. to shoot the banana peels and diddy kong off the stage and use fireballs like mindgames just like diddy kong and bananas.
also can they use his bananas against him

One matchup doesn't make a character good. You're gonna have to beat other characters in tourney.

This troll account is both more awesome and fun than Doc King.

The problem with some of you is that you guys are just too immature. You don't seem to think clearly on things and yet you spend you're times on here.

 

[Steam]

Thinking clearly is obviously thinking rco lag makes or breaks characters.

Obviously mk is broken because he does not suffer from roc lag.

 

[Ussi]

Fair doesn't connect, how is it good lawl =|

You aim to land the 2nd hit and not the first.. is the usual use i see.

 

[infiniteV115]

Fair doesn't connect, how is it good lawl =|

It will connect if you jump into them with it, and they're at the right angle relative to you

It does seem to be SDI-able, as I've had people SDI out of it before, but maybe I just was at a bad angle or something. But this has happened like 6 times out of the >9000 times I've used fair anyway.
Though even if it IS SDI-able, it's probably still guaranteed at lower percents, meaning fresh dsmash x2 --> fair will still do %36.
And yeah it does %17 when fresh and both hits connect, the 2nd hit alone does %12 when fresh, and the 2nd hit alone is stronger than her bair.

It's a great move. A little situational, but an absolute beast.

 

[Ghostbone]

Yeah, confuses me. You'd think that since Nintendo et al don't want anything to do with our community we'd stop trying so hard to please them. I think it has more to do with Smashboards being owned by MLG and the logistics of setting up tournaments with 20 hacked Wiis.

You don't need hacked wiis, just 20 SD cards.

 

[BlueXenon]

You're assuming BBrawl is correctly balanced.

I think the balance is terrible in bbrawl, but its much better than brawl. In my opinion, Bbrawl only has top tiers, high tiers, and middle tiers, no low tiers. Brawl has a broken tier, a low tier, and the H tier.

 

[MariofortheWin]

Good Mario players know how to use the cape as a good recovery and a good edgehogger. Also I'm not FireMario149.

 

[Ripple]

let's talk about why snake should remain 2nd on the MK banned tier list

 

[C.J.]

In all fairness Ripple, I don't think that would have hit you. It hit your shield because your shield goes out farther than Sheik's hurtboxes.

 

[Kantrip]

let's talk about why snake should remain 3rd on the tier list
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That is... there's no way that could... wow.

 

[Ripple]

In all fairness Ripple, I don't think that would have hit you. It hit your shield because your shield goes out farther than Sheik's hurtboxes.

you think anyone wants to take that risk? I was in needle lag

 

[Smooth Criminal]

>_>

I'm ****ing paranoid as hell when it comes to Snake and his tilts. That kinda crap right there just reinforces it.

Smooth Criminal