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  • How are you doing Shaya?
    Hyped for Smash for Switch.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    I'm doing alright, a bit of same ol same ol. How are you/whats up?
    And is that a question?
    I'm kinda hyped for smash switch, but a lot less than the average/than you'd think. It'll keep going up as more tidbits/news comes out, but I'm trying my best to stay passive~
    So, how do you feel for Diddy Kong's future, since ZeRo dropped? Do you think he will move from top five, not move his position at all, or other? I think he is still going to be top three/four, but in A tier instead.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    ZeRo helped Diddy's placement for sure.
    Others will have to really shine to make an argument to move up the mantle.
    He's currently 2nd/3rd, I doubt it's possible he can move out of top 5. He isn't jjust there because of ZeRo. Diddy's poor match ups, now without such an amazing player to still win in them may hurt his stature over time but like, eh.
    Are you enjoying Smashboards? I am!
    Shaya
    Shaya
    Diddy tied second is reasonably fine, he's the safest bet for top 3 outside of super DLC so he's in a pretty okay spot.
    Greninja is probably a tad low, but nothing too extreme.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    Also thank you!
    ShinyLegendary
    ShinyLegendary
    Any time, keep up the good work! I think Greninja is a bit low. Greninja is top twenty in my opinion, so I agree. It does not say that Diddy is tied with Cloud in Smash wiki for some reason. I am glad to see Link and Samus on the rise. Enjoy SmashBoards!
    Quick question: what do ties mean in the most recent tier list? Are they significant, or do they just apply when comparing to other versions of 4BR tier list? For example, should SmashWiki say Sonic is tied with Fox for 7th, or is Sonic 8th?
    Shaya
    Shaya
    I'm sorry I didn't see this sooner.
    The margin between Fox/Sonic was very little, hence we 'tied' them. For the sake of expressing what we did, they should be tied (but a literal technical interpretation is sonic is 8th)
    Ethan7
    Ethan7
    Thanks for replying! Merry Christmas!
    Shaya
    Shaya
    and a happy new year to you too!
    A wild Shaya appeared!
    Shaya
    Shaya
    Actually you might've spotted what I was looking at too, uh oh
    Cyndane
    Cyndane
    Of course, I save the ball only for the most rare and powerful. I already caught Mewtwo with an Ultraball, then you appeared.

    And my lips are sealed.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    *captured*

    But the catch rate from any Cyndane poke trainer was actually maxed out so it wasn't needed. Whoops?

    Find me any time at secret base-2cord!
    Quick question: been asked to create a thread for a tournament on behalf of the team running it (2nd largest regular UK tournament scene). Am I best creating a thread in the General or Competitive Discussion?
    Shaya
    Shaya
    Usually that's for tournament listing's section.
    Do you mean like for when we run discussion threas for majors or?
    Bowserboy3
    Bowserboy3
    It's ok now, I sorted it!

    It was literally just a thread/page to say "hey, this tournament is happening on X, Y, Z, please come". I posted it in the tournament listings section.

    Thanks for replying, though!
    Apologies for the amount of consecutive posts I'll end up making in the tournament archive >.>
    Shaya
    Shaya
    Don't, information threads/posts don't have the same rules LOL.
    Regarding the CIA: What if I posted results in both threads at the same time?

    I go to the CIA first because I don't know how to find the other thread without being alerted to it, it isn't visible from the forums.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    It's probably okay to post in both.
    The thread's stickied so you'd have to look at the top?
    Or you still can't see it even in the stickies?
    TDK
    TDK
    Oh, it is stickied. I got confused because I expected it to be near where the CIA was. My bad.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    np
    Quick question: did you let Fire Emblem: Heroes sink its claws into you?
    Shaya
    Shaya
    Nah I didn't.
    My phone is still from the stone age ;^)
    I see you.

    O_o
    Cyndane
    Cyndane
    In the all-seeing way......get out of bed and start your day. You've had enough coffee.

    Hi. :)
    Shaya
    Shaya
    Hello~
    I suppose that is freakishly close in some sense!
    slow day as yesterday was a big one.

    Hope you've been well.
    Cyndane
    Cyndane
    Well, I hope it was a big one in a positive way.

    Hope you've been just as well. :)


    *hugs*
    Can't tell which Roy is really my boi.
    Honestly, I never really thought it through.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    the one with the sword ;)
    hey, nice seeing you again at OHN. just wondering if you had any advice you could give me. any character is fine, obv my villager sucks but i would like to improve it as well.
    Oh hey so you actually ended up attending OHN! Glad to see your health problems didn't stop you, good run~
    E
    extrasensory
    i played like balls in grands. got the 'omg im gonna win' jitters
    ReRaze
    ReRaze
    lol it really didn't seem that way to me, you played really well (especially considering the MU) though I kinda wanted ghost to put up more of a fight just to keep it interesting :p but you literally mowed through everyone at OHN
    Shaya
    Shaya
    I was actually totally (selfishly) referring to doubles!
    Singles grand finals were pretty entertaining, but both were really jittery. Hi extra~
    If you are allowed to say, I was wondering when are we likely to see the next 4BR Tier list? A couple of weeks? A month or so? Longer? I remember you saying shortly after the first tier list that it's likely to come soon after Smash Con.

    Granted, I know it's literally like 2 days after Smash Con as of this post, but I was just wondering in general. I'm excited to see what has changed :)
    "His recovery is truly what lets him down on a frequent basis, his knockback numbers are not tied together in a synergistic way - if he has no rage he legitimately cannot kill you, if you're well above 100% he has little he can do to combo or force KOs without rage - His tipper back air feels to KO better than nearly all his other sweet spot aerials, that's just painful."

    Truer words have never been spoken.
    The "Marth and Lucina differences" sticky has some outdated info in it and I thought I'd point it out if that is okay so people have the most up-to-date info.

    On it, it point 4 talks about hitlag modifiers on shields, but those were done away with in version 1.1.1. This means now Marth's sour hits are the least safe on shield, then Lucina's sword, and finally Marth's tippers causing the most shield stun of all.
    Ryusuta
    Ryusuta
    (I would have posted this privately, but I don't know if that's possible anymore. I just wanted to say thank you for your work and I hope this is a help rather than an annoyance.)
    Shaya
    Shaya
    I was meaning to / should've gotten around to this earlier. Thanks for reminding me, I altered it just now.

    You can PM people still (they're called "conversations").
    And you're very welcome. Thanks again.
    Ryusuta
    Ryusuta
    My pleasure. That genuinely means a lot to me. I'm so very glad I was able to lend a hand. I'll remember the Conversations thing for future reference. =)
    Hi - how can I get my username changed?
    Shaya
    Shaya
    premium, it's an option on one of the standard setting pages I believe.
    |RK|
    |RK|
    Thanks!
    Shield will always be that thing that is too strong in Smash. This game has a built in option against it which is the 6f of input lag (akin to the 8f of input lag in SF5) that make the f1 properties of shield a lot less ridiculous.

    Also very few are willing to lame it out with shield. If a Smash game gives you the tools to do otherwise the playerbase generally does otherwise.
    TTTTTsd
    TTTTTsd
    Also your talk about Sonic, yea Side-B > Shield is dumb but that's the nature of a move that projects an instant hitbox and can be shield-cancelled. Wrath's gameplan was however broken by Nairo because IIRC Nairo ran by him a lot either holding shield or just being not scared. He didn't really try and press buttons, he just waited for Wrath to think he would.
    TTTTTsd
    TTTTTsd
    The dynamics of this game IMO prevent shield from being OP as is, IMO. It's most akin to blocking in traditional fighters here now, where it's arguably one of the most important traits. I think throws in this game feel jussttt right because most chars who lack combo throws have strong dmg racking throws or have a kit like Marth with good position building throws alongside solid disjoint.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    While shields are OP, it's pretty obvious that they're not unbeatable. They're just so strong that whoever gets the most out of them are those we tend to "hate" on. The game works out fine, and shield is universally available.
    Your understanding of Cloud is solid but you're missing a few underrated key KO moves: Usmash and Dsmash. The latter is nerfed though still good and USmash is an incredibly strong anti-air/platform covering kill option. CCI and Cloud are impossible to discuss tho everyone just says nerf when they have an incredibly LIMITED UNDERSTANDING of the character and it bothers me.

    Blahblahblah.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    To me those two moves are strictly punishments/trapping responses and they're quite solid. You aren't really comboing into them though.
    I'm so used to seeing wifi clouds spot dodge down smash, and up smash is fantastic as an anti-air but I expect people scared of dying to almost never jump against Cloud.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    I guess I should relate that I'm mostly feeling the dynamic KO options vs the read KO options. Neither of those two moves can be really safe to use in a tight situation, while bair/dair/LCS and reactive dash attacks are.
    TTTTTsd
    TTTTTsd
    I understand what you're saying, esp. about the community. It's a mess. Nerf this, nerf that, they should change this, that, etc.

    A bunch of anecdotal nonsense, kinda glad the guys behind the patching seem to follow the Japanese meta more than....this.
    Popping in to say I found it hilarious that you mentioned Standard Deviation right after I took an exam on it irl.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    MATHS RUINS* EVERYTHING FOREVER!

    Mathematicians would agree 'ruin' in this context means something entirely opposite~
    I just realised I'm a couple months late to saying this but......welcome back xP!

    Better late than never I guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
    Uhhh, Shaya. Could you explain where my double post was? I don't see where I committed this infraction unless I don't understand the ruling exactly. I only posted like 3 things and was responding to another person. I just wanna make sure what I did.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    you quoted, hit reply, then posted your reply in a separate post afterwards. I merged the two already.
    BOB R.O.B.
    BOB R.O.B.
    I think I recall doing something like that. Because I don't post much so I was a bit confused. Thank you for clarifying.
    I don't agree with all of ESAM's Corn MUs. Mostly Cloud, it's even at worst IMO, Cloud doesn't lose neutral soooo
    Good work on the Bayo discussion, the news I find very important to note and while i would rather not have a git gud argument to get out, I hope the news thread will be made anyway no matter how unavoidable arguments will be.
    Can you possibly add the {Meta} emblem next to the Bayo thread to make it seem like "official discussion"?
    Funbot28
    Funbot28
    Ok, thanks for keeping the thread sane btw :)
    Shaya
    Shaya
    To follow up on this, I thought this earlier but didn't inform you (my apologies) - I would rather not give an official tint to a discussion about banning something, especially when there is a poll involved. I hope you understand.
    Funbot28
    Funbot28
    True, but I just wanted to prove its legitimacy as certain areas are banning her as of now (Ex: Russia and Spain).
    Hey ,can't let ya take all the credit for predicting Mewtwo's future success! : )
    Shaya the Savage not even giving Mewtwo ONE night to relish his victory
    Shaya
    Shaya
    What? How?

    People are acting like Mewtwo isn't really really good because he's been buffed more than anyone else :p
    thehard
    thehard
    I'm just teasing. ;)

    I honestly think he fits most people's criteria for "top tier" now. F-air is actually insane. Just imagine it on... anybody else.

    Not that I mind him being amazing.
    Shaya
    Shaya
    ~

    Yeah there's a lot there for it.
    almost no one does! LOL

    But I suppose we let the greninjas get too hasty last time. Precaution precaution.
    Although regrets on the "man, Link with top 5 mobility would be so good" hysteria #_#
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