Official BBR Tier List v6

[-LzR-]

Better just nair the dins fires.

 

[infiniteV115]

waddle dee is turd

Funnily enough, throwing turd at your opponent is definitely more effective than throwing Waddle Dees at your opponent.

 

[Fuujin]

LOL! Dins is no better than D3's waddle dee toss.

This isn't an argument of which projectile is better.
It's an argument about the usefulness of Din's against Waddle Dee toss

you are all dumb for saying dins is even close to being as bad as waddle dees. because unlike dees, dins has one good use. offstage pressure. not amount of dees and doos can **** up an opponent anywhere near as bad as a well timed din's.

din's is a bottom tier projectile. only thing worse than it is waddles.

Again, not the point of the argument.

If D3 gets the first hit then Zelda does than he's can keep throwing waddle dees at her. D3 can easily spot dodge Zeldas din. He's got the best freaking spot dodge in the game.

Lol @ you trying to tell me about MY character that I use as if YOU know more about them.

You're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Doc King]

WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG WRONG


you are all dumb for saying dins is even close to being as bad as waddle dees. because unlike dees, dins has one good use. offstage pressure. not amount of dees and doos can **** up an opponent anywhere near as bad as a well timed din's.

din's is a bottom tier projectile. only thing worse than it is waddles.

waddle dee is turd is a moldy dumpster garbage tier projectile.

How is Waddle Dee throw that bad? Waddle Dee throw is definitely better than Din's fire.

At least for Waddle Dee throw you can use it in the air without getting severly punished. You can also use it to block projectiles like Fox's blaster. Waddle Dees can also cause offstage pressure along with onstage pressure. You can also pull out 2 at a time and do other things with it than Din's fire. Also D3's projectiles are UNREFLECTABLE while Zelda can get punished severly by Ness, Lucas, and Game and Watch by doing it.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

maybe because i play pit my viewpoint is biased but i've played zelda's and d3's and in my particular MU your projectile is 10x worse than din's

 

[Doc King]

This isn't an argument of which projectile is better.
It's an argument about the usefulness of Din's against Waddle Dee toss



Again, not the point of the argument.



Lol @ you trying to tell me about MY character that I use as if YOU know more about them.

You're wrong and don't know what you're talking about.

You do the same exact thing with my character. Stop strawmanning like Jebus.

 

[-LzR-]

Waddle dees are pretty much useless. Offstage pressure? Thanks for giving me an upwards boost.
And Dins fire is the ****tiest projectile ever, Waddles being even compared to it should tell you something about the quality of that move.

 

[Chuee]

Dins fire can at least hit an opponent offstage.
Waddle throw is like, the worst projectile.
You shouldn't be hitting competent opponents with it.

 

[Doc King]

Waddle dees are pretty much useless. Offstage pressure? Thanks for giving me an upwards boost.
And Dins fire is the ****tiest projectile ever, Waddles being even compared to it should tell you something about the quality of that move.

Waddle Dee throw overall isn't that great since the 4 characters I mentioned are crappy characters except for DK. I mean if you're fighting a Marth or a Zero Suit, you will get punished pretty good by using it. Waddle Dee imo beats dins fire and I think they're both pretty bad. Din's fire is just horrible, even D3's waddle dees beat it. That's how bad it is.

Dins fire can at least hit an opponent offstage.
Waddle throw is like, the worst projectile.
You shouldn't be hitting competent opponents with it.

Same with D3's waddle dees.

Din's fire is so easy to dodge and so predictable, even more than D3's waddle dee throw. No wonder why Zelda is the second worst character in the game. Zelda gets punished hella bad when she uses Din's fire. No way it's better than D3's waddle dee throw.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

look at it this way. both moves are like condoms in the garbage. they are both disgustingly bad the only differance being the condom repping din's isn't the one covered in crap.




























lets stop arguing this pointless subject and move on to something that could possibly matter

edit:

or if yall wanna keep arguing projectiles then do something like make a projectile tier list for people to scrutinize

 

[-LzR-]

Also you don't dodge Dins Fire Doc King

 

[Fuujin]

You do the same exact thing with my character. Stop strawmanning like Jebus.

Show me one post where I talk about a character other than Zelda like I know everything about them.

Dins fire can at least hit an opponent offstage.
Waddle throw is like, the worst projectile.
You shouldn't be hitting competent opponents with it.

If were being technical the worst projectile would end up being something like the stars that come out of Yoshi's/Dedede's *** after their down and up b moved.

 

[Laem]

D3's sideB is better than din's fire.
Problem? Deal with it.
Toss got a coupla things going for it, actual killing power of gordo and even the waddle dee (not doo, I hope im not switching em around, in any case the one that sprays thunder) and the thunderspray move which adds quite a bit of versatility in means of approaching and defenses and can net you extremely dumb combos.

But please, you guys do keep on reinforcing your questionable opinions.

 

[Nidtendofreak]

Din's Fire > Tossing Babies

 

[BSP]

Neither of them are that great anyway, unless D3 gets that surprise Gordo on you

 

[Ussi]

1/10 chance to go "SURPRISE *****" > din's fire

Din's fire > waddle/gordo toss in doubles though

 

[Steam]

waddle toss is better in that if used right it's kinda a stage control option.

dins can just be clashed with with like... any move.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

S-tier

falco's lazers
snake's projectile aresenal
diddy's banana's
pit's arrows

A tier

olimar's pikmin throw
toonlink's projectiles when used in conjunction with each other
pikachu's jolts and thunder
zss's armor and paralyzer's
Lucario's Aura

B tier

wario's bike and tires
Rob's lazers and gear
wolf's lazers

C tier

sheiks needles
fox's lazer
yoshi's egg
peach's turnips
mario's fireballs

D tier

luigi's fireballs
link's projectiles

E tier

ivysaur's leaf
charizard's breath
bowzer's breath

F tier

Din's fire

Useless without gordo pull tier

waddle dee throw






bone officially thrown


edit:

if we're talking doubles then din's kicks ***

 

[Ripple]

charizards breath is A LOT better than bowsers

 

[Steam]

you overrate Lucario's AS.

and pit's arrows.

and underrate fox's laser for sure.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

as long as yall stop arguing din's and waddle i don't give a rats *** what's correct or incorrect on that list. hell it was so easy to get you guys to change subjects. all i did was throw out an opinion, and let yall start objectifying it. now im gonna watch and see my goal come true.





word

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

You forgot suit pieces and Paralyzer Shot ... if that counts.

 

[Doc King]

Show me one post where I talk about a character other than Zelda like I know everything about them.



If were being technical the worst projectile would end up being something like the stars that come out of Yoshi's/Dedede's *** after their down and up b moved.

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=13552758&postcount=4119

There you go.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

thx sfp. i knew i was missing someone.


so what would yall change around on this? (besides the last 2 )

edit:

steam in case this changes your opinion im basing this on how well they are able be used overall AND how good they are at forcing someone too approach. if it was soley based on approach forcing wario's tires would be lower and pit's arrows would be second imo (just because he can even force spacies and snake to approach)

S-tier

falco's lazers
snake's projectile aresenal
diddy's banana's
pit's arrows

A tier

olimar's pikmin throw
Ice Climber's blizzard (blocks are lower)
toonlink's projectiles when used in conjunction with each other
pikachu's jolts and thunder
zss's armor and paralyzer's
Lucario's Aura

B tier

wario's bike and tires
Rob's lazers and gear
wolf's lazers

C tier

sheiks needles
fox's lazer
yoshi's egg
peach's turnips
mario's fireballs

D tier

Ice Climber's blocks
luigi's fireballs
link's projectiles

E tier

ivysaur's leaf
charizard's breath
bowzer's breath

F tier

Din's fire

Useless without gordo pull tier

waddle dee throw

i mean this whole list is just my opinion anyways but still i think it's close

 

[Steam]

fox's lasers are waay too low on your list.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

im asking why though? and where would you have put fox's lazers?

also please look at the edit i put at the top of the top of the above post

 

[Steam]

im asking why though? and where would you have put fox's lazers?

also please look at the edit i put at the top of the top of the above post

because SHTL is very fast and produces a lot of projectiles. plus it's not really a projectile that's worthwhile to try to PS through. it's also generally not worthwhile to reflect as it just gives fox an opportunity to rush in on you and possibly even punish you for it. It's a really really good mid range projectile and makes fox's runaway very good.

and fox's lasers are at least better than lucario's Aurasphere. fox would be absolute garbage without them.

 

[Doc King]

Waddle Dee throw should be at the top of F Tier and Fox's lazers should be in B Tier. Fox's lazers are pretty good at punishing lag and it can make combos off of lag.

 

[Ussi]

Fox's laser is free damage :\

Its really dumb to shield his lasers which is why its free damage.

 

[Steam]

Also putting pit's arrows in a tier with naners, nades, and falcos lasers just seems... wrong...

it's a good projectile, but not as overwhelmingly good and metagame defining as nades, naners or falco lasers. it has a somewhat slow rate of fire and travels very fast, limiting its zoning capabilities. being able to aim it is really good tho.

Pikmin throw is probably better because it makes you approach olimar and fuuuck that.

 

[Tarmogoyf]

Loooooooool at Link's bombs being anywhere close to Luigi's fireballs.

Also, IC's blizzard and Ice blocks aren't listed.

 

[Maharba the Mystic]

the honest reason i put pit's arrows so high aside from what i mentioned earlier is the fact that they are definately the best projectile in terms of gimping. i think i could solidly claim that no other projectile gimps as well as pit's arrows (a crucial part of his metagame).

maybe top of the next tier would be more appropriate. idk

edited in ICs

 

[Wave-Guiding Hero]

Also putting pit's arrows in a tier with naners, nades, and falcos lasers just seems... wrong...

it's a good projectile, but not as overwhelmingly good and metagame defining as nades, naners or falco lasers. it has a somewhat slow rate of fire and travels very fast, limiting its zoning capabilities. being able to aim it is really good tho.

Pikmin throw is probably better because it makes you approach olimar and fuuuck that.

IMO, just because a projectile doesn't define a character's metagame doesn't mean it isn't good.

I think that list is basically fine, maybe put Pit's arrows at the top of the next tier down. I disagree that AS is overrated, it's a really powerful projectile that definitely is in the A tier when it comes to projectiles (however, I'm undeniably biased in this regard )

 

[Tarmogoyf]

I still want to know why link's bombs are in the same tier as Luigi fireballs (his other projectiles are *** sure, but bombs are insane)

 

[Tesh]

fire breath and flamethrower dont force an approach any more than someone ftilt might force an approach....

 

[Nidtendofreak]

lolololol at Link being that low.

 

[Kinzer]

Waddles don't do anything to anyone

b****es don't know 'bout mah Waddle Dee.

... k.

Projectile tier list.

What? No Spring Coil?

 

[Supermodel From Paris]

I think ZSS armor pieces are way, way better than that and Paralyzer is way, way worse.

The armor pieces are stupid while they're out, seriously. :\

 

[infiniteV115]

Suitpieces are not used to their fullest potential by anyone. Not even close. Those things are ****ing deadly.
But yeah, that list was a how-good-each-character's-projectile-game-is-list rather than a how-good-each-projectile-is-list. I doubt anyone thinks paralyzer is A tier XD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4DOrgNbZyY
lololol

 

[Steam]

the honest reason i put pit's arrows so high aside from what i mentioned earlier is the fact that they are definately the best projectile in terms of gimping. i think i could solidly claim that no other projectile gimps as well as pit's arrows (a crucial part of his metagame).

maybe top of the next tier would be more appropriate. idk

edited in ICs

I dunno if a character can be good if so much of their metagame relies on opponents double jumping into a projectile... :/

regardless it's nothing like what naners do for diddy, nades do for snake, and what lasers do for falco.