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Can Marth become top tier again?
- Thread starter Dart!
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well Kage, you gotta do what you gotta do. It's not like your abandoning ganon. Lots of great players have either added characters to beat a tough MU or to improve as a player. I.E. M2K picked up sheik for the ditto because he would lose as marth/fox to KDJ. Hell the whole reason m2k started using marth in the first place was becuase he had controller/consistency johns with fox. Not to mention Mango has evolved from puff to spacies. INB4 armada picking up YL to counter jiggz/hbox.
whatever you do though, keep that ganon pimp hand strong
whatever you do though, keep that ganon pimp hand strong
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i'll do it as long as he doesn't admit his char isn't good like all mid tier mains do at one point or another. >:0Jeez you don't need to be so harsh on the cage.
Archangel
Smash Hero
it's funny because I saw this and no offense to Chadd because he's a good ganon but I can think of 30 more meaningful victories Kevin could've had while using his Marth fairly easily. At least some of them I'm pretty sure he won't win....but then again maybe he will..*yea...win it for the realest mother****ers in the game right now he will.*
LOL
<333 you guys
I'm thinking of focusing on Falco more to prepare for my salty runbacks on everyone ever but my Marth seems to be getting a little tune up as well. I get to play Mahone all weekend and my vs Puff game is looking great!
ps playing Mahone got me a sick Puff game initially(with Marth but it was enough to do really well vs Hbox[in friendlies a month before G2]) so don't discredit him.
Oh yeah that Ice thing....
The man has talent, but I'm not too concerned for the time being. =)
I'm thinking of focusing on Falco more to prepare for my salty runbacks on everyone ever but my Marth seems to be getting a little tune up as well. I get to play Mahone all weekend and my vs Puff game is looking great!
ps playing Mahone got me a sick Puff game initially(with Marth but it was enough to do really well vs Hbox[in friendlies a month before G2]) so don't discredit him.
Oh yeah that Ice thing....
The man has talent, but I'm not too concerned for the time being. =)
OverLord
Smash Ace
@ Strong Bad: I don't know if Ice is going to Apex.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
I think you are the only one that can play lower skilled players and somehow beat top players with what you learn, not fair! lol.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
PP's analytical skills are potent.
TheCrimsonBlur
Smash Master
Whatever happens I just dont want Ganon to die out as a character. Hes so fun to watch.
****ing Mahone lol. gettt eeem
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OverLord
Smash Ace
x(
I know I know, I hope he knows too xD.
I know I know, I hope he knows too xD.
leffen
Smash Champion
*look at armadas young link who has experience vs 0 puff mains*
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Hmmm.. not quite the same. He's using one character for one matchup, PP can use ALL characters for every matchup and ****.
leffen
Smash Champion
The scenario was PP getting good vs Puff with marth from playing Mahone. Armada beat the best puff after having 0 experience. Both were one matchup. And Armada can also use ALL characters in every matchup just as well (if not better) than PP.
Let's just say they're both incredibly gifted and flexible players that can do anything. I'm sure they both practiced very hard with their respective secondaries to overcome specific matchups.
Ryucloud
Smash Journeyman
I like watching PP marth because it really plays by the book and he uses tools and moves that ppl forgot all about like foward titlt i just think the type of player he is is the perfect style for marth to put marth metagame back on track and i hope he wipes it out in tourney matches but when i watch Ice play its like I can see his imagination flow right into the game and he seems really creative but if anything
talented and hes seems to have the most potential with marth to push him further he just needs more experience like his matches from Beast 2 really showed what marth can really do and hes adding more options in marth games like reverse fairs and stuff
Marth a reactionary character dont forget
my list is
Ice
Dr.peepee (marth)
Taj and Tai
Hbk (more confidence )
Ps. Taj your my hero
but when i watch Ice play its like I can see his imagination flow right into the game and he seems really creative but if anythingtalented and hes seems to have the most potential with marth to push him further he just needs more experience like his matches from Beast 2 really showed what marth can really do and hes adding more options in marth games like reverse fairs and stuff
Marth a reactionary character dont forget
my list is
Ice
Dr.peepee (marth)
Taj and Tai
Hbk (more confidence )
Ps. Taj your my hero
I thought he grinded it out vs Hack's Puff LOL wtf
Not sure why Armada was brought up in the Marth thread anyway lol, guess we can talk about Armada having a good anti-Peach Marth or something though. That's a cool thing he does.
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
Marth is the third best character in the game.
Anyone who thinks Jigglypuff is higher than 7th is bad at this game and would have better luck playing Brawl.
Anyone who thinks Jigglypuff is higher than 7th is bad at this game and would have better luck playing Brawl.
Doser
Smash Ace
lol ur so clever and insightful, 10/10 troll.
Wake
Smash Master
Yeah I heard he practiced with Hack's Puff too.
Rubyiris
Smash Hero
If you're trolled by this, you have no business being on the internet.
What I said is what I, and many other better players believe, and if you're incapable of understanding this, I'd consider reevaluating yourself.
:3
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Don't worry about him, he'll assume many things before actually looking into it first.
TheCrimsonBlur
Smash Master
Doser on blast! lol
Yo we should switch discussion to how **** Hack is. That guy is amazing. I really, really want to see him come over for a US tourney.
Yo we should switch discussion to how **** Hack is. That guy is amazing. I really, really want to see him come over for a US tourney.
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the notion that disagreeing with you on an issue of subjectivity is a sign of stupidity and as such should play a stupid game is just more evidence to the pile of evidence of your overly arrogant and obnoxious attitude on SWF. if you really care what people think of you, stop doing this. support your opinion logically rather than retardedly.
Aesir
Smash Master
That whole post screamed "I think I'm smart."
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in some countries
JPOBS
Smash Hero
If I.B was more active he'd show you all whats up.
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
Dart is better than tai and hbk. Seems like people forgot how good he was since about 8 pages ago.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
Thats ****ing awesome
JBM falcon08
Smash Master
Renegade real talk.
Dart is not better than HBK or Tai.
Midwest players are still not on AZ or Tristate's level. Besides a few names.
I.B is also better than Dart. Dart is good he just has to go prove it. All of these other marth's have accomplished bigger feats.
Dart is not better than HBK or Tai.
Midwest players are still not on AZ or Tristate's level. Besides a few names.
I.B is also better than Dart. Dart is good he just has to go prove it. All of these other marth's have accomplished bigger feats.
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
Ur too down on ur own region. Upper IL is one of the best places for melee in the country.
Divinokage
Smash Legend
Tai didn't make to G2 brackets, Dart did. WHERE YOU AT!?
JPOBS
Smash Hero
the callout! ^
KILLA.FOR.CASH.
Smash Champion
tai is the best marth in the world
or will be one day
btw i have no idea what he has accomplished so yeah. he is just so damn creative
or will be one day
btw i have no idea what he has accomplished so yeah. he is just so damn creative
Palpi
Smash Hero
agreed...still not top 10 on ec...HE DOES IT AGAIN!!Dart is better than tai and hbk. Seems like people forgot how good he was since about 8 pages ago.
JBM falcon08
Smash Master
Tai plays better players more consistently. Also i like Tai's style more than Darts because he's so smooth. So perhaps i may be a little more bias.
HBK just plays gayer better than Dart. HBK has also beaten top players that Dart has neither beaten/had the chance to play, so by this regard HBK deserves more credit.
Dart i'm not targeting you by any means. Your a good guy, but i like to keep fan boys in check.
HBK just plays gayer better than Dart. HBK has also beaten top players that Dart has neither beaten/had the chance to play, so by this regard HBK deserves more credit.
Dart i'm not targeting you by any means. Your a good guy, but i like to keep fan boys in check.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I guess I'm bad at this game and would have better luck playing Brawl.
Winston
Smash Master
results wise Dart is clearly ahead of Tai atm
not that either have had very many nationals to prove themselves at so far, but still...
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
It's impossible to tell anything with HBK because he hasn't been at anything in forever. His previous records are still probably better or comparable (I admit I don't know them too intimately). Same for I.B.
Dart > Tai
It's gay, but I believe results are actually kind of important.
While responding to this, I was trying to think of active NTSC Marths. I came up with Dart, Tai, Taj (?), Niko, and M2K (kind of?). I'm not sure if I'm missing some massive group of players. I guess toss Dr. Peepee in there if he starts using him more in tournament or something but I can't think of more Marth players.
Dart > Tai
It's gay, but I believe results are actually kind of important.
While responding to this, I was trying to think of active NTSC Marths. I came up with Dart, Tai, Taj (?), Niko, and M2K (kind of?). I'm not sure if I'm missing some massive group of players. I guess toss Dr. Peepee in there if he starts using him more in tournament or something but I can't think of more Marth players.