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Can Marth become top tier again?

Pi

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edit: I do think there is a marth that can beat PP's falco in terms of raw skill. unfortunately, kevin can't play himself. but if he could, his marth would win over his falco lol
lol, his marth & falco are just so precise & methodical
very fun to watch from those points of view
 

OverLord

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He's going to Sheik ditto me or go Fox if we play. How the hell does that prove anything about Ice in relation to the Marth vs Falco metagame?

If anything, I'm gonna watch him play PP, get rocked, and then say "Wow, Taj really is better at the MU". From there, Eurofanboys are gonna get defensive and say that Ice was having an off day and it's unfair to judge Taj vs "sickly-PP" to Ice vs "healthy-PP". At which point I'm gonna laugh hysterically because if he's actually EONS ahead of EVERYONE in this MU, then it shouldn't matter.

:awesome:
I'm definitely not gonna john, Ice is ready for PP, looking forward for that set.

As long as Ice is smiling while playing, it's not an off day for him.
 

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looked pretty standard aside from the clip @ 1:45. I jerked to that for a minute or so lol

I think ice would get ****ed up by the tier 2 US/canadian players.

edit: I do think there is a marth that can beat PP's falco in terms of raw skill. unfortunately, kevin can't play himself. but if he could, his marth would win over his falco lol
are you the ****er that disliked my vid? :mad: lol

as for Kevin we won't really know about his Marth until he goes all/mostly marth in tournament.

I'm definitely not gonna john, Ice is ready for PP, looking forward for that set.

As long as Ice is smiling while playing, it's not an off day for him.
honestly it's starting to get a little gay in here....just saying...
 

ChivalRuse

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Marth is really slow at close range and vulnerable from below. His KO moves also tend to involve a lot of risk (if you don't count edgeguards) and require better spacing than in the case of the top tiers.
 

Zinth

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PP == Kevin?

There was some really mind-blowing stuff in that Legacy: Regions trailer. Like, that ledge-cancelled fair to dair on Falco in the clip starting around 1:46 was sick as ****.
 

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he just won a tourney w/ marth

g6 or w/e
vids? results, and bracket plz :D

PP == Kevin?

There was some really mind-blowing stuff in that Legacy: Regions trailer. Like, that ledge-cancelled fair to dair on Falco in the clip starting around 1:46 was sick as ****.
kevin is Dr.pp

also yeah the trailer was fairly good.....but it's **** compared to what is coming ;).
 

Strong Badam

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too bad ganon isn't a relevant matchup in the metagame cuz he sucks :/
 

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PP almost beat me with Roy, the matchups are irrelevant with him, he's WAY better than me. I don't really play the matchups, I play the player.
 

Divinokage

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the warrior has spoken?

'my char doesn't suck, pp is just really good'

huehue
LOL, well I guess.. =P But I mean I'm going to expand my arsenal of characters too, i'm going to need it if I want to keep going at this level or try to get to a higher level somehow.
 

Teczer0

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Damn so much hate hahahaha

Also, Kage pick up marth. That was we can do your favorite match up Ganon vs Marth and my favorite match up, Marth dittos.

I mean the next time I have to house you for something.
 

Pi

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In teams, I'll probably stay Ganon all the way.. But.. in singles.. mm either Falcon/Falco or Marth.

I do get 17th a lot.. SB, don't you never even make it to 3rd round of pools?
the way i feel about my character main is that until the day arrives where i am 100% convinced that i understand the game on the level of players who are winning tournaments, and the only reason it's not me walking away w/ first place is because my character can't act on all the options i see, then that is the day i'll switch mains or pick up an alt

but for now, and i'm assuming it's the same for you kage since you just said how much better pp is than you, i'm sticking with my character and worrying about how many options i just don't see compared to better players than me
 

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Haha alright, we can do that. Tec0. =P Marth dittos, ugh.. im bad at those. lol.

3, ya I guess but I feel at my point I'm gonna need more characters because some matchups are pretty damn hard at top level. Like Sheik vs Ganon.. when Sheik knows the matchup and hes better than you.. and knows your style.. it's impossible.. lol. KK beat me like 0-4 recently in tournament and M2k 0-18 or some ****. I can't do it lol. I tried long enough, it would be stupid of me not to switch if I want to really win. Also Falcon is annoying too, I thought I was really good at the matchup but I still keep losing.. I'm gonna have to Falcon ditto them.

Reneblade, well... just a bit less Ganon.. =P I've proven already enough with him, I want to take a step further.

SB, Ganon is amazing, stfu.
 
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