A few days ago (probably a string of days), I got responded to two seperate opinions about Smash with "that would break immersion", and I find that response really weird (even if one user who said this simply suggested it as an example of a counter-argument and not because they believed it) but in a way, I think it actually kinda helps me get the words out for what I from Smash tonally - I've always used "kiddy", but I think a more accurate word would be "campy" - lovingly dumb, completely lacking prestiege, and creative decisions based all in fun and laughter. "kiddy" doesn't align with how I want Smash's roster to be, I like M-rated characters; I want characters from older games; and I think "scrimblo first" logic is stupid, but "campy" I think does align with how I want Smash's roster. I want a game where Motobug can beat up Kratos, that's camp, right?