Dark.Pch
Smash Legend
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To get a read is hard work in general. To get chase in melee and keep the opponent at bay to do more damage is not something simple. to get mixups is hard work? Do you even know the terms and traditions of a fighting game? Know what an educated guess is or a read is? Know what option select is? You are really not gonna understand any of this is you don't
Whn the hell did i say Peach was better then DDD. i never said she was better character then DDD. Know what just happen here? I destroyed your whole **** with my post, and this is the best you can do to whip of the destruction. You actually know what is going on. You just trying to be slick.
Meta knight is banned dunce cap. And if I was to add meta knight, it does not mean **** cause everyone one loses to him.
You think peach vs snake is -2 for us. You must really know her options on what she is suppose to do and can't do in this match up. pop quizz tool. Answer these questions. You get them right, snake is a -2. (everyone else stay out of this, thanks.)
- How many ways can Peach set off snakes nades when he is shielding and what are they?
- What attack Can snake do when hanging off the ledge When I am spacing bairs near the ledge to hit her?
- Name three ways Peach can use turnips to take advantage.slow down snakes camping and get in.
- What attack can snake OoS to stop my pressure.
- What attack is best used to hit snake if he does a get up attack or jumps off the ledge?
- If I am on the ledge and snake is spacing tilts, what is the one thing I can do to punish snake for it and not get hit at all?
get these right and snake is -2. You must speak like you know the match up, and all my options vs him. So now it is time to put your money where your mouth is.
Peach has better top tier match ups then DDD.
Your lil back air chain. if you really wanna call that a combo, That's your only option. My options:
*= Depends on where your enemy is/goes after the first or second hit of the combo
-*Dair>Dair>Fair
-Dair>Dair
-Dair>Dair>Dair
-Dair>Dair>Dair>Uair
-*Dair>Dair>Dair>Uair>Up-B
-*Dair>Dair>falling Dair>Usmash/Utilt/Up-B
-*Dthrow>Ftilt>Uptilt/Usmash/Up-B
-*Dthrow>Ftilt>Jab>grab>Dthrow>Utilt/Uair/Up-B
-Bair>grab
-Fair>Jab>grab> (look at the list of what you can do after grabs)
-*Falling Dair>Jab>(look at the list of what you can do after jabs/grabs)
-*Falling Dair> Usmash/Utilt/Up-B/Nair/Bair/Jab>w/e you want
Also, if you are gonna be using your bair alot, it is gona get stale, where even light characters such as Peach will live long. I lived to 160+ cause the only option I gave DDD to hit me alot with was his Bair. Did not let him chain chain grab me and I Nair everr damm waddle dee that came in my way. With my combos I don't really burn my kill options, I rack up damage fast and have more then one way to do it.
People at high damage and i can't combo no more you say? BS. I can Dair and fall before the 4th kick comes out. That's where the strong hit box comes out. So I cancel the 4th hit too:
- Nair
- Jab
- Dsmash
- Upsmash
- Utilt
- Up-B
"But we can smash DI, trololololololol!"
You smash DI I can take advantage of. If I short hop my dair and you smash DI, I can get a free uptilt/nair no matter what % you on. You will usually jump or just be over me already with not enough time to get away. This ***** heavy characters. if I am fast enough, I can even get an upsmash.
And let me add that I can Z drop turnips to a fair/nair. And kill you with it at the right% Auto combo. 1 frame for the item to leave my hand and have it be an active hit box.
Crappy approaching. Do you realize Peach has the most ways to approach in this game?
Fair
- FC>Fair
- Dair
- FC>Dair
- FC>Nair
- Turnip>Fair
- FC>Turnip>Fair
- Bair
- Glide tossing
- Nair
Advance approaches:
- Glide toss> FC>Nair
- Glide toss>reverse Bair
- Glide toss>Nair
- Glide toss>Grab
- Reverse Glide toss> Dsmash or Fsmash
- Reverse Glide toss> Bair
Good god you don't know anything.
Answer my questions on what Peach can do vs him then. Since you know so much about that *****.
Coney just told you, (some who who actually goes to tournaments and does not **** behind a computer talking ****) And you call it a good match up for you? Good grife.Dedede has like Wario (They both do good, but D3 is very solid and much better with control of air release, chaingrab, and slope infinites), Snake (The one I think largely matters), MK (MK legalness, Peach has to be less viable), Marth (Another good one like Snake), Lucario (Not as important as Marth and Snake, but an alright one), Game and Watch (Alright), Wolf (Amazing one), Peach (lol), and toonlink (Alright).
Also this whole time I been talking about top tier match ups. The ones that are more important and characters you would see more in tournament. I already gave you my list of characters there peach does not lose too. You do not out class her when it comes to that list. Out that list, you Have Marth and wario as you say. I have way more then 2 good match ups there.[/QUOTE]
Im sorry, mods i give you full permission to infract me for this.
Im not even gonna bring up the list of peach good match ups to crush you. Im gonna have you end your own self with what you said.
Doc king, you are the dumbest smash player i have ever EVER met in my 7 years of playing smash competitive. The dumbest. You mentions before that peach does amazing Vs IC. Ok, I am not gonna bring anyone else up. We are gonna go with just IC.
Doc King: Peach and IC (amazing)
Thats one match up, ok. few mins later......
Doc king: Dedede has 2/13 good matchups. Peach has nothing
At what point between now and then did you become so stupid that you lost the ability to count?
Cause this piece of **** character has better top tier match ups then That fat duck with no neck.
DDD Vs Peach. I find it funny you say this when I played you and I was beating the **** out of you. I space well, DDD can not grab me. the same concept with IC. Thats one of the reasons she does good Vs IC. She spaces well, they can't grab me. And it makes it worst since the have the shortest grab range in the game. i camp better than you do. I pressure you and you have no OoS options for me. space fair to jab or jab cancels to a mix up after, DDD is not grabbing me.
Whats next, bair spam, spacing? If you are doing bairs at mid level to me, I can Full hop dair and hit DDD out of his dair. if you wanna place this spa/camp game with bairs in the air, all I have to do is get one turnip, glide towards you while tossing it up. You get hit. Easy way to get in on you. and I can even link that to an uptilt.
Speed? I am not even gonna get started on how a princess with payless heels beats your dumb *** in speed.
Approaching? The only solid thing DDD even has to appoaching Peach is his Bair. I can approach your slow behind in many ways. I have options. I can run, camp and space my moves to a point it will become very hard to get in. And something else you don't know. Fsmash> DDD bair.
Combat? One I get in your face you are done, this is why DDD as to commit to spacing bairs and waddle Dee to slow her down and bait openings. So he can get damage with chain grabs and bairs. Or anything to get her in the air/offstage and edguard her out. If your face I pressure you, you can't do ****, but roll/side step. Thats what you was doing against me, and guess what, I reacted on time, read your stupid backward rolls and punished you for it. And when you sidestep/ You ate dairs/nair.
Damage? I rack up damage faster then you do and have mutiple ways of doing it.
Air combat, I have more ways of fighting in the air then you, thus having more options. Really since I can fight with a turnip in my hand. Something no other character in this game can do. And if I wanna go in even more, I can bring my air game to the ground to abuse his crappy ground game.
Edguarding? I can edgeuard you just as bad as you can to me. Once I get you off the stage, I have to toss one turnip out of the stage. and have one in my hand. With these 2 I create a wall outside of the stage. This forces DDD to use his Jumps. All I need him to do is burn 3 of his jumps. getting hit with a turnip will force this. From there, he is forced to use his up-B high. and which case I can hit him on the sides upon coming down. if I wanted to be safe, I can do this, force him to up-B, and grab the ledge. You have no choice but to go for the stage. After this I can floatland on the stage for an easy punish on you.
"But when I land I have the starts on the side that you will get hit with, trololololol."
Wrong, cause with her floatland, if I do it right, I get about 5 frames of invincibility when I touch the stage. Its about the same as Marth up-B. He is invincible when he up-B frame 1-5. the Hitbox of his up-B comes after that. Stage with platforms is even worst. Easy uptilts and even an upsmash. DDD is really slow in the air, thus with a wall of turnips I can make him burn his jumps, and control his up-b for me to punish. And if you are over Peach while I turnip juggle and glide toss upward to follow your slow air speed momentun, it becomes hard for you to touch the floor. if you do, you will be eating alot of damage before you land.
I would say Peach Vs DDD is even. But for NOW, I give it a plus one for DDD cause we can both do nasty **** to each other. But if ether of us makes a mistake, DDD punishes the mistake harder then I can do him. And it can cost a chain grab, get her off stage, edgeguard, and possible death.
Marth is a -2 for us. but not cause of fair. Peach bair can compete and beat Marths Fair. its her main move to get in. But wtf would you know about any of that. Bet you can't even name me three ways peach can punish Marths Nair.
And you damm well don't know jack about Peach vs Falco and how she can get in. or punish his camping to a point he has to limit it.
In the end, you are some moron who ****s behind a computer, spits nonsense with out doing their research or asking questions. You play the mister know it all on subjects you dont know about. Even with your own character. But see you so ad right now, and here is why.
You are soooooooooooooooo pissed that a piece of **** character, this ***** Peach actually does match ups better then a character that is generally better then her. This piece of **** character does the tuff work better then someone that is stronger and better than her. it makes you look weak, worthless. And your dumb self can't accept that. Face it kid, you are getting outclassed by a character that is so dumb, she gets kidnap too many times and does not learn her lesson by now. (Man you and her have alot in common) A weak BLONDE princess with $19.99 playless heels, cheap jewelery, kitchen and sports wear, and vegetables gets outclass by a Big strong duck with a big hammer and minions on the field to help him out. You just can't except this. It burns you deep on the inside. to get outclassed by something such as this. Face it and accepted it moron. The truth will set you free. And you might not be as stupid as you are now. So just quit posting BS already. You lost. You made a fool out of yourself long enough. I win!
