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- Thread starter t3h Icy
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john thanks for linking those, ive been looking for them forever!
Mango: Really fun 
But even if we don´t recorded the first matches we played (first day) so was our friendlis there much better =).
And i have always say 70-30 to fox in ntsc and you (even if your win or lost a match) prove me even more with your insane technical skills/spacing.
Next time i will have a rematch in tournament =).
But even if we don´t recorded the first matches we played (first day) so was our friendlis there much better =).
And i have always say 70-30 to fox in ntsc and you (even if your win or lost a match) prove me even more with your insane technical skills/spacing.
Next time i will have a rematch in tournament =).
_wzrd
Smash Journeyman
mindgames
lol
Dr_Strangelove
Smash Journeyman
He's saving all the trash talk for apex, where he is going to swear at everyone for 3-4 hours straight.
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
I think peach definitely does not beat falcon.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
wait who said this? do you mean falcon>peach?
Juno McGrath
Smash Hero
My thoughts exactly.
VGmasta
Smash Lord
That doesn't mean ish.
Ganon doesn't suddenly break even with Falco whenever Linguini wins a set against DaShizWiz.
Not even when Kage beats Mango's Falco.
HomeMadeWaffles almost beating Armada doesn't change the fact that Peach has the advantages in the matchup.
Well let's see, Peach has one of those amazing recoveries that makes it nearly impossible for her to be gimped by anything in Doc's moveset. She has great shield pressure on Doc. because the float-canceled aerials are very effective. Most of her aerials eat through pills. Peach's crouch-cancel game is so good.
Peach doesn't have a crazy advantage like Sheik or anything vs. Doc only because her mobility ain't all that. But if the matchup is played at it's full pontential, Peach just has to somewhat work for the hits on Doc. But Doc has to work a bit harder, because he is going up against someone with bigger and better priority in her attacks. Plus Doc's recovery gets ***** by Peach pretty badly in this matchup too.
iamthemicrowave
Smash Master
Mango's and Armada's friendlies are more intense than most tournament sets rofl. Given their history, they have to be XD
Peach should be +1 against Zelda imo. Toe "spam" can be pretty gay.
I also think Peach should be +1 vs Samus.
All of the other low tiers are fine.
Lol @ having DK listed. Makes me feel warm inside.
I also think Peach should be +1 vs Samus.
All of the other low tiers are fine.
Surprising perfect imo.
Lol @ having DK listed. Makes me feel warm inside.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
This is true.
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
Haha, m2 is also + 1. Peach ****ing sucks
bladeofapollo
Smash Ace
Though I agree it can be annoying, Peach's shield ALONE is +1 vs Zelda. Then you factor in all of the rest of her moves and you get +2.
I've played on both sides of this match-up and I have to say Peach is at a notable advantage, not a slight advantage.
(joke understood, however) I don't think Peach so much "****ing sucks" as she is just barely advantaged and barely disadvantaged against most of the cast. She's not like Marth of Sheik who simply DEMOLISH a large portion of the cast. Regardless, it's funny how far doing OK against most of the cast can get you
KAOSTAR
the Ascended One
You knew it was a joke, and this was what you chose to contribute.
****.
****.
The Irish Mafia
Banned via Administration
Peach vs:
Fox>>
Marth>>
Sheik>
Falco>
Falcon>
Jiggs=
IC'<<
That's all I'll say. From my perspective, peach can't do a lot vs the top tier unless the other player messes up.
Fox>>
Marth>>
Sheik>
Falco>
Falcon>
Jiggs=
IC'<<
That's all I'll say. From my perspective, peach can't do a lot vs the top tier unless the other player messes up.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
*P*L*U*R*
Smash Hero
llamapaste
Smash Journeyman
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Why is Sheik only > on Falcon? Shouldn't it be >>?
Merkuri
Smash Lord
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Someone said before that it should be Peach > Zelda and I really agree. Overall Peach has better attacks, but she can't exploit any of Zelda's weakness. She can't Shield pressure Zelda, she can't camp Zelda and seing and given Zelda's amazing recovery she has no way reliable method of killing Zelda either. On the other Fair and Bair spamming is very effective against a character like Peach who lacks mobility, imo actually easier for Zelda to kill Peach than the other way around. It should be Peach > Zelda simply because if they keep trading hits Peach will come out on top due to her better move set.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
maybe a year or two ago, not anymore really
What does Peach's shield do?
She can't punish toes with anything oos cept turnips on occasion lol
All of her other moves are outspaced.
Merkuri
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Yeah the sweetspot of Zelda's bairs and fairs are at the tip, so they'll never attack her shield while being in range of any of Peach's out of shield options.
No, we can't.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
In NTSC it is sheik > peach
amsahs bias and minimal NTSC tourny experience shouldn't alter anything we've known for years
amsahs bias and minimal NTSC tourny experience shouldn't alter anything we've known for years
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
I'd argue peach Zelda even. But just peach > zelda is fine I guess.
Floaties in general have a hard time dealing with toe spam, they're not fast enough to get inside the range
Floaties in general have a hard time dealing with toe spam, they're not fast enough to get inside the range
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
Peach = Zelda
Lovage
Smash Hero
fox > peach not >>
but who knows
but who knows
unknown522
Some guy
just saw this post.
Kason Birdman
Smash Champion
Fox > Peach
falcon i would almost not want to give > on peach.. but i think it is juuuust barely a >.
falcon i would almost not want to give > on peach.. but i think it is juuuust barely a >.
TheManaLord
Smash Hero
fox >> peach
falcon > peach
falcon > peach
Kason Birdman
Smash Champion
fox >> peach? is that unanimous?
john!
Smash Hero
at the highest level (where you get foxes who can camp, drillshine, not get grabbed or triple dsmashed, etc.) it's her worst matchup. armada seems to think it's >> as well...
t3h Icy
Smash Master
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Updated:
Falcon > Peach
Jigglypuff > Peach
Peach > Doc
Match-ups in brackets are leftover from previous discussion. Also feel free to continue with Peach/Fox.
Ganondorf >>> Kirby (Ganondorf >> Kirby)
Ganondorf >>> Pichu
Ganondorf >> Bowser
Ganondorf >> Link (Ganondorf > Link)
Ganondorf >> Luigi
Ganondorf >> Mewtwo
Ganondorf >> Mr.G&W
Ganondorf >> Ness
Ganondorf >> Roy (Ganondorf >>> Roy)
Ganondorf >> Yoshi
Ganondorf >> Young Link
Ganondorf >> Zelda
Ganondorf > DK
Ganondorf > Ice Climbers
Ganondorf > Mario
Ganondorf > Samus
Ganondorf = Doc
Ganondorf = Marth
Ganondorf = Peach
Ganondorf = Pikachu
Ganondorf < Falco
Ganondorf < Falcon
Ganondorf < Fox
Ganondorf < Jigglypuff
Ganondorf << Sheik
Falcon > Peach
Jigglypuff > Peach
Peach > Doc
Match-ups in brackets are leftover from previous discussion. Also feel free to continue with Peach/Fox.
Ganondorf >>> Kirby (Ganondorf >> Kirby)
Ganondorf >>> Pichu
Ganondorf >> Bowser
Ganondorf >> Link (Ganondorf > Link)
Ganondorf >> Luigi
Ganondorf >> Mewtwo
Ganondorf >> Mr.G&W
Ganondorf >> Ness
Ganondorf >> Roy (Ganondorf >>> Roy)
Ganondorf >> Yoshi
Ganondorf >> Young Link
Ganondorf >> Zelda
Ganondorf > DK
Ganondorf > Ice Climbers
Ganondorf > Mario
Ganondorf > Samus
Ganondorf = Doc
Ganondorf = Marth
Ganondorf = Peach
Ganondorf = Pikachu
Ganondorf < Falco
Ganondorf < Falcon
Ganondorf < Fox
Ganondorf < Jigglypuff
Ganondorf << Sheik
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