1nconspikuous
Smash Apprentice
no word on the up/d-smashes of lucas though?
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Noa.
Smash Master
You can't absorb Lucas' smashes or tilts. I know this for a fact.
1nconspikuous
Smash Apprentice
thanks! =)
cemo
white walker
Feel free to lie about it, though.
"YOU CAN BUCKET THE FLAMES OF A FALCON PUNCH"
editz~
How much can stale moves effect a bucket? Say you bust out a 60% bucket, 8 moves later you bust out another. Is it still gonna be 60%? Still a KO at 0?
(This is totally possible in teams)
"YOU CAN BUCKET THE FLAMES OF A FALCON PUNCH"
editz~
How much can stale moves effect a bucket? Say you bust out a 60% bucket, 8 moves later you bust out another. Is it still gonna be 60%? Still a KO at 0?
(This is totally possible in teams)
Neb
Smash Lord
Cubone
Smash Lord
Anyone have tips on how to condition yourself to Bucket Brake? I still have a horrible tendency to dair after I get sent flying T.T
Just keep reminding yourself everytime you should have bucket braked.
What I did, for example, was to actually say "I should have bucket braked" each time I used dair instead. As long as you don't forget to remind yourself, it shouldn't be hard. Just don't forget.
Gishnak
Smash Ace
I was fortunate enough to practice quite a bit with a zss player. Every time I got dsmashed, I could prepare myself to SDI, Di, nair, then bucket brake. It was really helpful that I got to think about it, now it's just reaction.
Veng
Smash Ace
Whats bucket braking?
you know you DI towards the corner then use your fastest aerial to momentum cancel, but what is bucket brake?
you know you DI towards the corner then use your fastest aerial to momentum cancel, but what is bucket brake?
Cubone
Smash Lord
Bucketing stops all your momentum and lets you live longer.
DI to farthest point > FF Nair > Bucket
Veng
Smash Ace
why bucket.... a fast falled nair would cancel the momentum...?
K@0S
Smash Ace
Veng
Smash Ace
Ah nair to cancel hitstun then bucket cancels all momentum....
so if you get hit hard just tap a then down b ASAP?
so if you get hit hard just tap a then down b ASAP?
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
Yup, thats the idea.
1nconspikuous
Smash Apprentice
hey i got a quick question about the dthrow.
9/10 times i'll be facing the opponent _after_ the dthrow but sometimes i find that i'm facing the other way. (i know that doesn't matter when you dthrow>dsmash or if they tech roll, but for other chases it's pretty important. like sometimes i'll dthrow>oil which works awesome if they don't tech, but if i'm facing the other way, big waste.)
what factors affect where the dthrow will send the opponent? (in front of or behind?) can the opponent do anything to affect which side s/he lands? how do u know where the opponent will be?
9/10 times i'll be facing the opponent _after_ the dthrow but sometimes i find that i'm facing the other way. (i know that doesn't matter when you dthrow>dsmash or if they tech roll, but for other chases it's pretty important. like sometimes i'll dthrow>oil which works awesome if they don't tech, but if i'm facing the other way, big waste.)
what factors affect where the dthrow will send the opponent? (in front of or behind?) can the opponent do anything to affect which side s/he lands? how do u know where the opponent will be?
Gishnak
Smash Ace
Your opponent can choose which side to land on by simply DIing in that direction. (Ie hold left if you want to land on the left side, right for the right side).
BTW for Oil, if you expect them to land behind you/tech roll behind you, you can turn and oil and it's still guaranteed. Dthrow->bucket owns.
BTW for Oil, if you expect them to land behind you/tech roll behind you, you can turn and oil and it's still guaranteed. Dthrow->bucket owns.
cutter
Smash Champion
Dthrow --> Bucket is even better in teams when you can have your teammate cut off a possible techroll location and be able to fill up the bucket a lot easier.
POKE40
Smash Lord
Whats the fastest aerial for G&W?
Just wondering
Just wondering
cemo
white walker
fastest to come out, or to finish?
up air comes out the fastest, but nair finishes the fastest.
edit - during which frames is the key a spike?
up air comes out the fastest, but nair finishes the fastest.
edit - during which frames is the key a spike?
Noa.
Smash Master
When G&W uses the key, he first pulls it over his head. If your opponnent is near enough to get hit, then it spikes. I think you already know this though.
Idk exactly what frames it spikes.
Idk exactly what frames it spikes.
Depends on where they are on the stage. Usually charging upsmash works best.
PentaSalia
Smash Master
if you happen to break it when they're below killing %
i say go for hammer o_o
lucky day mabbeh? D:
but i guess it wouldn't be advised lol
go for any charged smash if they're at high%
upsmash as said before
_Phloat_
Smash Champion
Nair -> U-tilt is good, combos at low damage.
Decent protection from above, although parachuting to safety is almost always better..
yea, from nairs is normally the best.
Decent protection from above, although parachuting to safety is almost always better..
yea, from nairs is normally the best.
Tero.
Smash Champion
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or Fsmash, or Dsmash, or Fair
It's not like G&W doesen't have any kill moves beside Usmash =P
lol right, thanks for correcting me. I only listed usmash because it has the most similar range.
MagicJosh
Smash Apprentice
I could've SWORN that I absorbed some thing from GaW with my GaW's bucket, but I don't know how that works at all, since I tried to on purpose and it never worked. was that a glitch or something? any1 else have that happen (maybe everyone knows what it is already and im being stupidly noobish)
JustKindaBoredUKno
Smash Lord
you sure it wasn't a G&W kirby firing bacon?
for some reason, when a G&W powered kirby uses chef, THAT can be bucketed, just not normal G&W chef.
MagicJosh
Smash Apprentice
No , I am sure it was another GaW...but then agian that could have been a free for all with kirby involved. oh well thanks anyway
Noa.
Smash Master
I'm pretty sure that the answer is yes but I just wanted to make sure. Does Marth's UpB oos outrange G&W's bair? Or can we space it so that we don't get hit?
Noa.
Smash Master
Utilt is really much of a good move for G&W. It's slow and doesn't have too much range. And when you miss it you can easily be punished. The only time that Utilt is a good move is when you followup it up from an autocanceled Nair. You might actually be able to use two Utilts in a row.
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
Is there a particularly good follow up for punishing a missed tech with a delayed fair so it forces a stand up?
Is there a particularly good follow up for punishing a missed tech with a delayed fair so it forces a stand up?
fair is kinda laggy. If your on the ground, i'ld go for the upsmash. if your in the air i'ld say nair or turtle if you can. is this from down throw?
fair is kinda laggy. If your on the ground, i'ld go for the upsmash. if your in the air i'ld say nair or turtle if you can. is this from down throw?
i could definitely hire you, if you can beat me in G&W dittos or my friend's snake with G&W.
I hate snake so bad. Do you guess have any advice. i've read the match up thread and it helped a little.
What do you guys do when you land a grab?? I'ld down throw to techchase upsmash if he is hi enough to kill or not. and half the time when the percent is low i try the downthrow jab regrab repeat, but some crazy stuff can happen from that.( i'm talking downthrow to jab to snake's uptilt regrab at the same time, take a million damage, downthrow to jab to snake's uptilt regrab at the same time, take a million damage,, it was like a reverse chain grab where the snake was benefitting.) Good luck understanding any of that.
Exceladon City
Smash Hero
Could someone post some hitbox data for Gdubs please?