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F5Hazardousdoc
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I've never seen this before, you guys know what it is?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3I3nSsR1M&fmt=18
Happened to a friend of mine... XD
Computer GaW's cheat, seriously.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol3I3nSsR1M&fmt=18
Happened to a friend of mine... XD
Computer GaW's cheat, seriously.
It's a 9.
Anyway, I've been told a bunch of times that I need to work on my edgeguarding. I'm not really even sure how to edgeguard except for turtle, fishbowl, and upB on the ledge and dtilt and dsmash when near the ledge. Can anyone help me with this?
Rajam
Smash Champion
Im kind of lazy, so forgive me if this has been previously asked:
How bucket brake does exactly works (like step-by-step?) ? Are there more ways to do it and which is the easiest? Can i bucket brake by: doing an air dodge and then quickly use the bucket (without an aerial)?
How bucket brake does exactly works (like step-by-step?) ? Are there more ways to do it and which is the easiest? Can i bucket brake by: doing an air dodge and then quickly use the bucket (without an aerial)?
animeblitzballa33
Smash Ace
Try taunting.
chef can be safe and take away your oponents options. i've been wanting to try and RAR of the stage and f air to stage spike. TO me it seems best to stay on the platform and punish their land or dtilt near the ledge, then all they can do is jump or ledge drop. Once they're in the air it should be easy to nair or fair or shield grab kinda.
yeah and taunting works wonders
yeah and taunting works wonders
Bucket brake stops your momentum. In order to bucket brake you just have to DI the hit and try to nair as soon as possible. After the nair animation, just down b and you're good to go.
You can actually do it airdodging but it's slower than doing an aerial. Also, you do a nair because it has the fastest animation.
F5Hazardousdoc
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I don't think you saw what happened.
He was in the animation of using his dsmash, but he was falling off the ledge and then suddenly turned THEN 9ed. I'm not THAT shallow XD
My question is, how in the heck was he falling WHILE using dsmash, then cancelled it somehow into a 9?
THat's what I thought at first too, but it's not the case. You need to remember that when G&W uses judgement he brings the hammer behind his head first. This was what it probably was.
That's what I was going to say but then I looked at the video again and it's definitely the dsmash animation. My guess is that as he dashed off the ledge the dsmash data was input the frame before G&W left the ledge, giving it just enough time to start up. This is all just a guess though.
I'll just put this in the "blame Sakurai" pile.
Tero.
Smash Champion
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Try Fair and slowfalled dairs.
GaW EG is ****.
Here is what you need to know. You don't come into G&W's territory making demands, saying your gunna secondary him, and ordering us to "Make it more like the one on the Ike boards. That's some nasty manners, son.
but since you asked so nicely, I'll tell you the secret. Just chef dude. Do it in a tournament. neutral b just like metanight, xcept is hella more crazy cuz its a projectile. Cant punish no projectile.
cemo
white walker
that is my favourite strategy for not making it out of pools.
K@0S
Smash Ace
Some people call my turtle Christophe Willem (famous singer in france whose nickname is The Turtle), and sometimes when I bair they yell "CHRISTOPHE WILLEM !!"
In regards to the ridiculous video with a midair dsmash, i've solved it.
Take a look at this image:
This is the frame in which you see dsmash, with both hammers being held up.
Now let's take a look at what a real dsmash looks like:
See a difference? The G&W in the midair dsmash has a nose sticking out and to the left, but he doesn't in a real dsmash. Therefore what we see in that video is NOT a dsmash, but in fact just the sideB. You see two hammers because this is what happens when you Bstick judgment. I do it all the time.
Take a look at this image:
This is the frame in which you see dsmash, with both hammers being held up.
Now let's take a look at what a real dsmash looks like:
See a difference? The G&W in the midair dsmash has a nose sticking out and to the left, but he doesn't in a real dsmash. Therefore what we see in that video is NOT a dsmash, but in fact just the sideB. You see two hammers because this is what happens when you Bstick judgment. I do it all the time.
Tero.
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pure ****.
Wow that's too good.
Bellioes
Smash Lord
Whats bair breaking?
I was reading the comments on the combo video and someone said something about a bair break to judgement 9.
Is it really technical or something. I really want to know what this is.
Thanks
I was reading the comments on the combo video and someone said something about a bair break to judgement 9.
Is it really technical or something. I really want to know what this is.
Thanks
yeah. i'm steeling that. Crap i use black...hmm?
And to UTD, Phenomenal effort, and your vids are sweet. There was one where you were like "I ain't approaching no way, no how".
Cool. I've never had something I've written engraved in steel before.
He probably meant bucket breaking but typed bair breaking instead. My guess is that it's bucket braking with bair instead of a nair, but I don't know why you would do that since bair takes longer.
Bellioes
Smash Lord
Thats what I thought but I wasnt sure
Thanks
Thanks
I'm sorry I wasn't trying to be mean
LouBega
Smash Journeyman
lol. if you watch the video there is a clip where a peach gets her shield broken by a bair. then she gets 9ed.
****.
Does any think that the best way to approach is to not approach at all and punish them when they approach?
Noa.
Smash Master
Well, G&W isn't exactly known for punishing mistakes. We can punish, but not too well.
And, by not aproaching, you're limiting one of G&W's best moves, bair. It is one of the best aproaches in the game, and one that many other characters would want.
We can punish people, but usually we do a better job aproaching ourselves.
Besides, it's not like G&W can really force oponnents to aproach. Chef isn't exactly threatening.
cemo
white walker
You can camp with bairs instead of approaching, and they're even less punishable Draconoa >.>
Mr. Escalator
G&W Guru
You don't need a good projectile to force approaches if you have the percent lead.
Noa.
Smash Master
Ok, so G&W isn't a bad camper. But most characters can still outcamp him, and I do still believe he'll usually do better when he approaches. Perfectly spaced bairs are unpunishable (for the most part) anyway. Camping really depends on the character I suppose.
the unmost part is what i'm worried about.
A2ZOMG
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Don't worry, those cases are extremely obvious and if you're smart, you're not going to jump into the **** like an idiot.
Like vs Marth's Up-B out of shield and Snake's grenade shielding.
Against Marth...I'm not saying much more. Against Snake, just grab him if he likes grenade shielding.
And against those guys, you'll just do a retreating B-air and not attempt to touch them, as it will hit them if they try to punish you most of the time.
Like vs Marth's Up-B out of shield and Snake's grenade shielding.
Against Marth...I'm not saying much more. Against Snake, just grab him if he likes grenade shielding.
And against those guys, you'll just do a retreating B-air and not attempt to touch them, as it will hit them if they try to punish you most of the time.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
if wolf perfectly spaces bair shield (assume i didnt powershield) what are my best OoS option?
i know that if you try and grab or fair your going to eat an attack in the face v_v. its extremely irritating, and my gaw is relatively new so idk what i should be looking for in these situations.
i know that if you try and grab or fair your going to eat an attack in the face v_v. its extremely irritating, and my gaw is relatively new so idk what i should be looking for in these situations.
Noa.
Smash Master
A2's right. Just be careful with your bairs, and you shouldn't get punished. Because Marth and Snake can punis us for poorly spaced bairs is why they're our worst matchups.
I don't have any experience against a Wolf. After he lands, do you have enough time to run up and dtilt him, or maybe even Usmash him? I honestly don't know anything about Wolf.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
only if he mispaces. 99/100 times you just eat a fsmash (or ftilt, ive seen one wolf fair, but im sure) to the face.
if you chill in your shield and he fsmashes you you can grab him after. but good good wolfs just sit there and wait for you to be an idiot v_v....
Noa.
Smash Master
Hmmm. Maybe you could land behind him with a bair. Occasionally use a dair to switch it up a bit.
Do a full hopped bair OOS.
I'ld listen to Hylian. BUt here's my input. if you have tap jump on you can up-b out of shield. i don't have enough experience with wolf, but he can't fsmash invincibility frames. i think you should be able to up-b out of shield anyways, but you would have to press x or y and then up-b, but i'm not too sure. I just got an idea though
question: Can G&W up-b OOS without tap jump on and have it be as effective as with tap jump on?
question: Can G&W up-b OOS without tap jump on and have it be as effective as with tap jump on?
cemo
white walker
it's easier with tap jump on, to do it without tap jump you'd just have to hit jump before up-b.