Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

[TresChikon]

didnt magus come in here and clear that up like a month ago. like just wiggle in between two points and if done right youll get multiple sDI inputs and be able to get out at 0%?

Yes, JPOBS defined it as the Magus claw.

He puts in between his middle and index finger then vibrates at those two points. o_O

But at 0% you still need proper ASDI to get out of a jab reset. I think below 10% or so.

 

[SuperMatt]

you guys should analyze it from the other way around

what ways can the sheik approach a falcon?

dash attack doesnt usually work because it can be sheild->stomp i think

spacing f tilts can usually work, other wise they have to try coming in with an aerial

unless they try to sneak in a grab because they know you expect them to dash attack so the falcon will just sheild

not that the sheik has to approach at all

conclusion...the falcon is screwed

 

[ChRed2AKrisp]

lol sheik. I go fox. I hate sheik, i always **** up combos against her.

Also thumbs, mute city is a horrible idea. It's already easy to deal with sheik's recovery, mute city won't change much. Falcon on the other hand, won't have a ledge to go for, which he can either grab or tech off of if dsmashed.

Really all you can do against sheik is space nairs and stuff until she screws up, and grab her, then do stuff out of that. Use platforms as much as possible to avoid needles and still approach.

If you're getting tech chased by a real pro, i'd say you have to basically just go for the edge. Like, if you get grabbed at a really low percent, DI out and tech towards the edge, and then try to edge cancel the next throw/just get throw off. You'll hopefully be at a low enough percent that you can be smart and snag the edge. What you do after that is your problem, but it's better than getting tech chased til like 70 and then eventually thrown off and definately die.

But yeah, at least in my case, I play fox as well so I simply wouldn't go falcon against a good sheik. I mean, if I was playing m2k's sheik it wouldn't matter, as the best i've done is take two stock off him, but against anyone close to my skill I wouldn't play falcon. It's just a very hard and not fun matchup.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Playing sheik isnt fun. I dont care who you are playing as.

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

i enjoy marth vs sheik, even though marth gets *****. the combos are 2 good.

 

[Grahf]

How do you scar jump at Yoshis without having to use your second jump to initiate?

 

[Tomacawk]

How do you scar jump at Yoshis without having to use your second jump to initiate?

I would also like this answered
I've tried dropping with cstick...I can't make it work
I can do it with fox tho =(

 

[Reaver197]

Flick back on c-stick really quickly, then quickly push in with the control stick and wall-jump.

 

[P.C. Jona]

whats easier would be to dash attack to the edge, fall off

then di towards the stage

and do it

 

[Rawrness]

How do you reverse knee?

 

[Reaver197]

By doing a 180 to forward c.

Or just knee them with your butt.

 

[Scar]

sheik beats falcon bad but you can nair oos vs ftilt even when it's spaced, also you have barely enough time to shieldgrab it

scarjumping is only done without using one's second jump (no one really knows what scarjumping is )

when you're on yoshi's you really just have to let go of the ledge and DI in towards the stage and then smash away on the control stick, you don't HAVE to use the cstick but to scarjump as high up on the wall as possible press back on the cstick to let go of the ledge, DI in, then when you're touching the wall press away

i also recently found out that if you smash down and in on the control stick you can fastfall and hug the ledge and walljump before you die, thus saving your jump and walljumping VERY low (gonna use that as an edgeguard if i'm up 3 stock)

 

[tubes]

whats easier would be to dash attack to the edge, fall off

then di towards the stage

and do it

That's not a Scar jump though.

I usually tilt the control stick back so I let go of the ledge but don't Bair. I think the flick method sounds easier though and I'm going to try that later.

Also, fast fall scar jump bair to gimp Marth's recovery?

 

[Scar]

uair* yeah that's the plan

would be cool against pretty much everyone who goes low and has a vertical upB besides fox b/c his fire is gay and will gimp you

 

[Stratford]

i also recently found out that if you smash down and in on the control stick you can fastfall and hug the ledge and walljump before you die, thus saving your jump and walljumping VERY low (gonna use that as an edgeguard if i'm up 3 stock)

Sounds like IKM III?

 

[Tomacawk]

scar, I cannot wait for IKMIII. Can you promise a solid delivery like the previous two? I mean how many more unique falcon combos can there be?

 

[Ripple]

WAITZ!! IKMIII is coming out soon???? are there going to be any featured combos on a famous roy player???? huh, huh, huh?

I think you know where I'm going with this.

 

[P.C. Jona]

That's not a Scar jump though.

yea it is

your not using your second jump

its just a different approach to the problem

dig?

 

[tubes]

oh, I thought Scar jump only applied to off the ledge wall jumps without double jumps.

my bad

 

[KAOSTAR]

yeah that's def not THE solution but add it to your bag of tricks

ill put it right next to gentleman to knee

 

[Alukard]

yo ur combo vid is so good people actually like to get beat in them lmfao

the peoples champ!?!?!

<333

 

[COHEED AND CAMBRIA]

BIG D when you gonna be Back your missing all of Impp and my tournaments lol.

 

[GamerGuitarist7]

Kneegalize is actually coming soon

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=251584

Tell your falcon brethren to watch and enjoy.

 

[Scar]

yea it is

your not using your second jump

nah it has to be from hanging on the ledge to be a scarjump

tomacawk ikm3 is going to be the business, i have like 4 solid months to guarantee that no mediocre combos find their way into the video, and at the rate that i'm going i think i'm getting about 3-4 absolutely **** combos per tournament

the difference is not in unique combos, the same as was the difference between IKM and the second the difference here is player skill, i've gotten far far better and my combo ability is largely responsible for that, so i'm hoping that there will just be lots of 0-deaths and combos spanning more than like 10 seconds, combos to tech chases, tech chases to combos... i think the trailer was an accurate depiction on a smaller time frame

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Yo scar

IKM3 better not disappoint

anyway, I was wondering who you think falcon does best in teams with, asides from jiggs.

 

[Afro_Chris]

whats easier would be to dash attack to the edge, fall off

then di towards the stage

and do it

sheik beats falcon bad but you can nair oos vs ftilt even when it's spaced, also you have barely enough time to shieldgrab it

scarjumping is only done without using one's second jump (no one really knows what scarjumping is )

when you're on yoshi's you really just have to let go of the ledge and DI in towards the stage and then smash away on the control stick, you don't HAVE to use the cstick but to scarjump as high up on the wall as possible press back on the cstick to let go of the ledge, DI in, then when you're touching the wall press away

i also recently found out that if you smash down and in on the control stick you can fastfall and hug the ledge and walljump before you die, thus saving your jump and walljumping VERY low (gonna use that as an edgeguard if i'm up 3 stock)

so does scar jumping only apply to yoshi's or something, and doing it off the edge? cuz theres a bunch of methods that i no of that lets u do it without the use of the edge on , DL, FOD, FD, PS, and yoshi's

 

[BigD!!!]

im gonna be back dec 3rd

get those tournaments into prime condition by the time i get back, cause regardless of being in the same state its still a 5 hour drive for me

 

[COHEED AND CAMBRIA]

Ah ****. Well im sure it will be.

 

[Alukard]

falcon does best with marth or sheik hands down ... cf gets people off the stage very easily ... and then the edge guarding goes to the sheik and marth like a cake walk

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I think Marth and Falcon is a good team, marth takes the front and falcon runs around kneeing people (hopefully the other team)

 

[iamthemicrowave]

Scar, your recents vids from Gigabits are awesome. You played so well against shiz! Nice job man.

 

[P.C. Jona]

to me scar jumping would just be not using your second jump and already be walljumping

but scar

w/e you want lol

i dont care what its called as long as its sexy and it helps me ****

dash attacking off is so easy tho

the other way is a little harder

 

[KAOSTAR]

**** I killed mufasa 3 in the making? Scars tryin to take over falconopolis

 

[Scar]

Yo scar

IKM3 better not disappoint

lol

where are the vids of me vs tree from GameUniCONN

falcon sucks in teams he only does well with a character that can create openings (jiggs/fox)

so does scar jumping only apply to yoshi's or something, and doing it off the edge? cuz theres a bunch of methods that i no of that lets u do it without the use of the edge on , DL, FOD, FD, PS, and yoshi's

yeah it's only on yoshi's and it's only from holding the edge

 

[Afro_Chris]

yeah it's only on yoshi's and it's only from holding the edge

lol ight well in that case do i get to name my other wall jump tricks

 

[Strong Badam]

as soon as you learn to grammar, afro_chris.

 

[P.C. Jona]

i didnt even notice that

he just put a "can" in there were it doesnt belong

he wanted to say "i get to name my other wall jump tricks"

unless he wanted to say "do i get to..."

 

[Tomacawk]

jona how the **** do you have 990 posts with that join date
god **** dedication
i gotta step up

 

[TheManaLord]

i cant believe hes not banned

 

[Drecker]

i cant believe hes not banned

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