Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

[RaynEX]

Why does every Falcon insist on ledge-slipping->knee/dair? (ledge-hop onto stage, waveland quickly + double jump -> FF aerial)

Is it really that useful?

 

[tubes]

Can CapFal regrab the ledge after a knee like his bair and u-air?

yes he can. And it's not even that hard.

@Raynex: I'll do anything if it gets me back on the **** stage.

 

[Tomacawk]

i ledgehop knee by hitting down, Y, towards the stage + c stick + other directions, depends where I want to land
Turazrok you will need to get used to repetitive practice with your controller, it's the only way to become consistent

 

[Aussierob123]

edit: my bad didnt see new page of posts.

 

[Scar]

@Raynex: I'll do anything if it gets me back on the **** stage.

qf absolute truth

 

[NES n00b]

I like the new title of the thread.

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

Falcon's only good matchup is vs Samus.

The problem is only NES n00b knows how to do it right.

 

[Mogwai]

Scar ***** Samus pretty hard from what I can recall... There aren't really enough good Samuses out there to know if that means anything though. Samus blows.

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

Oh yeah, Scar is really good vs Samus also, I just don't think he does it as untouchably beast as NES n00b.

 

[Afro_Chris]

I like the new title of the thread.

lol i agree

 

[NES n00b]

Falcon's only good matchup is vs Samus.

The problem is only NES n00b knows how to do it right.

Nope, samus ***** Falcon. She does cc dsmash and then falcon gets edgeguarded. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

 

[P.C. Jona]

Why does every Falcon insist on ledge-slipping->knee/dair? (ledge-hop onto stage, waveland quickly + double jump -> FF aerial)

Is it really that useful?

thats not true.. its good in some situations

what i really like to do to get off the ledge

is ledge hop>waveland>roll then run away lol

it always works for me for some reason

 

[Cia]

Does anyone use Uair out of sheild?

I've been using it against Fox lately and it's crazy! He gets grounded from it, and then I just destroy him. I think it's worth perfecting for an easy tech chase set up.

 

[Tomacawk]

never tried it
things oos i do against foxes:roll, grab
uair sounds kinda risky on a good fox
who have you been successfully doing it to?
and it might work for flyby nair bull****

 

[otg]

what is the proper way to fight a good, defensive doc?

Cut through pills with nair, just outspace him with Nair/ftilt, DD around a lot, CC his jabs, combo him all day (insert % here -> moveset -> moveset -> moveset-> moveset, knee is infact included in moveset).

 

[KAOSTAR]

Why does every Falcon insist on ledge-slipping->knee/dair? (ledge-hop onto stage, waveland quickly + double jump -> FF aerial)

Is it really that useful?

Its punishable like a mofo lol, but I like it from time to time.

 

[BigD!!!]

i uair out of shield vs jiggs when shes jumping around like an idiot

but hardly anything is actually a good idea vs jiggs so w/e

 

[Scar]

Nope, samus ***** Falcon. She does cc dsmash and then falcon gets edgeguarded. IT IS IMPOSSIBLE.

qft

also she can upB at any point in time for easy damage

samus is like the 2nd worst character though so it's not as bad as vs roy or vs pichu

 

[legion598]

will someone just make a list of falcons disadvantagous match ups because I thought it was just fox, falco, and shiek

 

[ihavespaceblondes]

will someone just make a list of falcons disadvantagous match ups because I thought it was just fox, falco, and shiek

Aarosmashguy
Bowser
Cactuar
Captain Falcon
Donkey Kong
Dr. Mario
Falco
Fox
Game and Watch
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Jigglypuff
Kirby
Link
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Metaknight
Mewtwo
Ness
Peach
Pichu
Pikachu
Roy
Samus
Sheik
Yoshi
Young Link
Zelda

 

[Mogwai]

I was going to say you forgot Captain Falcon, but you didn't. You did forget Ryan-K though, he's actually CF's worst matchup, followed by Aarosmashguy, then Pichu, then Roy, then Cactuar, then Pikachu.

 

[Alukard]

After All The Friendlies I Had At Scars Place This Weekend With Hax And G$ I Think I Should Be At The Top Of That List ...

Cf Is Such A *** For Killing U At 50% Tho ... I Got Work Tmr!!!! (inside Joke)

 

[NES n00b]

Jman and Dr Peepee are also bad matchups for falcon. Poor falcon.

 

[TheManaLord]

**** or be ***** ****ers

 

[The Irish Mafia]

just nair a lot, you beat everyone like that

 

[Stratford]

I like the sound of uair oos.

 

[NES n00b]

I like the sound of uair oos.

Since that is your 666th post, I say this is proof that it is a bad idea. Evil itself is trying to make Falcons lose.

 

[Alukard]

since That Is Your 666th Post, I Say This Is Proof That It Is A Bad Idea. Evil Itself Is Trying To Make Falcons Lose.

Lmfaooooooo

That Was Hilarious

 

[HiIH]

I like Uair-ing OoS too as Falcon.

<.<;

 

[ChivalRuse]

Aarosmashguy
Bowser
Cactuar
Captain Falcon
Donkey Kong
Dr. Mario
Falco
Fox
Game and Watch
Ganondorf
Ice Climbers
Jigglypuff
Kirby
Link
Luigi
Mario
Marth
Metaknight
Mewtwo
Ness
Peach
Pichu
Pikachu
Roy
Samus
Sheik
Yoshi
Young Link
Zelda

You forgot Jman.

 

[The Irish Mafia]

So scar

I was asking a girl out and started stuttering and talking all awkward

then I thought "What would scar do?"
and then I was a smooth ladykiller

but seriously "be like scar" is a good mentality to take to life

she said yes BTW

 

[Strong Badam]

you shoulda told her that you killed mufasa

 

[Scar]

good **** maf

but *****es ain't **** but hoes n tricks

remember that

 

[The Irish Mafia]

K, but this one likes old school nintendo. If you see me at a tourney sometime soon with a girl, it'll probably be her

But chances are she'll just start having sex with you when you look at her
I know your tricks scar

 

[Cia]

I came in here to post something Falcon related..

chances are she'll just start having sex with you when you look at her

WTF..

bye

 

[Scar]

vanz youre banned from the falcon boards so long as that **** jigglypuff is your icon

 

[tubes]

Since that is your 666th post, I say this is proof that it is a bad idea. Evil itself is trying to make Falcons lose.

Sometimes a bad idea can prove to in fact be a very good idea in certain situations. For instance, Falcon kick > Marths with perfect spacing.

Also Falcon punch, that's always a bad idea regardless of the outcome. Doesn't stop it from being sexy as hell though.

 

[Scar]

tubes i'm going to ignore that whole post because it borderline implies that falcon kick is a bad idea in general

falcon kick *****

uair OoS is fine but relying on it is stupid otherwise you trap yourself in your shield too much and put too much emphasis on waiting for foxes to full jump nair you, and if you're too slow you're just going to get hit with a late nair which as we all know is going to cost you

also uair grab is never going to combo ever, you're just going to have to hope that you're playing a mid-level or worse spacie who will sit there in shield and let you grab him, if you're not then prepare to get spotdodge shined or just plain ol naired, so i'd say go for uair run up wait knee, but some players don't even spotdodge anymore they just roll, in which case you're ****ed all the way around and uair OoS blows just like it did before vanz came in and said it was good

 

[The Irish Mafia]

Uair oos could be used to stop peaches' from doing fair grab on shield
I know it would piss me off if I'm about to pressure falcon's shield and then BOOM he's doing falcon things to you
I think it's just a good way to turn momentum v marth or someone floaty, or to get out of falco's shield pressure, if you're good at timing it

Uair grab doesn't work, especially oos
I think I'm gonna start maining falcon, the peach boards suck and jfox doesn't like me because I like peaches' fsmash

 

[TheManaLord]

doesnt late uair to grab work a lot v lots of chars actually di dependent ofc at varying percents depending on all sorts of character attributes?