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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]

tubes

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less then one minute ?

i thought pacman eats the bigger one

so >1 = less then one because <1 is pacman eating the 1 so the one is bigger

idk

whatever

lol i havent taken math in 2 years so leave me alone
Ok Jona, I'm gonna explain this **** to you so you never mess it up again and avoid future embarrassment.

you got to read it left to right.

ok so we got >1

we know 1 is the smaller number because Pacman commands it, so whatever is to the left of the > must be bigger. so whatever the **** that is, is GREATER THAN 1.

now we got 2<3.
2 is less than 3.
 

tubes

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Sorry for the double post but this is important. skip to 0:15

Darkrain punishes Fox's roll with a Dair-->jab reset with the forced getup ****. But why did the Dair ground fox? shouldn't it have popped him up? I'd write it off as weird **** not worth looking into but Darkrain seemed to know it would happen so maybe this is a useful trick.

edit: link works now. Where is Jman from? parts of this match suggest Darkrain must play him an awful lot.

Also, I like the Midwest commentators more than Silent Specter's commentators.
 

KirbyKaze

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Whoever guessed crouch cancel first got it right.

tubes, I think he saw that he didn't launch and reflexively went for the jab reset. Or maybe he knew he would cc? Darkrain's pretty smart so I could see either...
 

Roneblaster

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Scar, why do all my **** comboes happen when im not recording?

also is there a secret to avoiding that gay thing that as youre ****** someone, you hit them with a move and they have no hitstun and just pop-out?
 

flaw

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So I have a quick question that I know has been answered but I couldn't find it.

When I shffl an empty dair, it's really easy. But when the dair lands a hit or hits a shield I miss the fastfall due to the hitstun about half of the time.

What I'm doing is I bring the dair out really fast. My question is, does a really fast dair hit before I can fastfall, or is it right after? Is my timing just not there yet, or should I either wait and fastfall after hitstun or just bring the dair out a couple frames later?

Hitstun from a shield is the same as without, right?
 

SuperMatt

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you can either

a) dair ASAP from a SH then you'll have to wait until after the hitstun to fastfall
b) wait a few frames after SH then dair, then you'll be able to fastfall before the hitstun (usually preferred method)
 

GamerGuitarist7

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i sh then immediately dair and fastfall before the hitbox even comes out i think so that regardless of if i hit something i still fastfall it correctly
 

Tomacawk

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hitstun on the shield is something you have to learn from practice how to not miss your l cancel and/or fastfall.
it's pretty hard with fox =X
 
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