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Official MBR 2010 NTSC Tier List

ShroudedOne

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Our boards are the best. Puff/Falcon boards are pretty good, too. But ours are the best. So come only if you want high quality (or men, I suppose).
 

The Good Doctor

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OOPS!

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I almost want to see it
 

john!

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OOPS!

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Location: Ghana
this is ghana's language guys, quit being racist
 

Fletch

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Its based on the server that is hosting the file. Also, Mac is a Linux system lol
Technicality, but Mac OS is a Unix system, not Linux. Other than that, you are correct. Check out imgur.com if you want examples of plenty of case-sensitive URLs.
 

Fortress | Sveet

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Ur right. I was thinking of a model my Unix teacher showed us. Linux systems and Mac systems are very closely related, but Mac doesn't use the Linux kernal so its not a Linux system. I just consider them the same for all intents and purposes since they even run the same shell (bash) most of the time.
 

Anand

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If you copy/paste the part starting with "/9j/" (taking care to get rid of any spaces, so the only characters are letters, numbers, plus, and slash) into http://decodebase64.com then it reveals this image:


Oddly enough, the *** doesn't seem to be censored in my post, although in case it gets re-censored somehow, it was the A-word with capitalization matching "Xxx" ... also, I think that this forum only didn't decode the image properly because vBulletin inserts spaces into long words every 50 characters or so, which breaks it. Bionic, if you namesearch, can you fix this? :D

Anyway, it wasn't a URL, for those who are interested; it was a Base 64 representation of the binary data contained in the image. Basically, since there are 64 (26 [A-Z] + 26 [a-z] + 10 [0-9] + 2 [+,/]) possible values per character, each character represents 6 bits of information.
 

The Star King

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Yeah he probably made us waste our time intentionally as well as veer way off-topic

Not very surprising though *shrug*
 

EthereaL

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So those ICs.

Mobility, 0-death grabs, Desyncing, Dsmash.

Yup. Get to it MBR.

Oh, and you should also look into Marth's frame options against aggressive Falcos.

Yup.

Discuss.

Or discussion, but discus is pretty fun, too.

:phone:
 

kailo34ce

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at this point im about 99% sure the melee tier list has to keep falco off the #1 spot to keep people who pick the "best" character from swarming the game with that damn bird
 

Max?

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Falco is the best at human level. Just wait til all Falco's Bair/platform camp and don't care about timing people out. People think I troll about PC Kip, but *****s really do not know.
 

EthereaL

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The argument for "at the human level" fall apart when you look at the sheer tech skill displayed by some players. Now, while some of these players (I.E. Dark) may be terrible in terms of gamesense, they display that the tools Fox has /can/ be used at a human level.

Also, as a counterargument to consistency issues, if you can purposely do something even once (without it being through luck), you can learn to do it without fail.

At the non-human level almost all characters are arguably equal, because of frame disadvantages of attacking (and powersheilding).

So I think what you mean to say is "Falco is easier to use to his full potential."

Also, Peach is pretty overrated.

:phone:
 

ShroudedOne

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I was waiting for someone to say that. Finally. I just want to know why you think so, as well.
 

EthereaL

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I'm on my phone, so I can't quote anyone.

However, I don't mean "peach is overrated" in regards to this tier list in particular. In this, I think Peach is about right (although I have a suspicion that ICs should be higher). I mean "peach is overrated" in the sense that popular sentiment is leaning toward peach being better than she is (mostly due to people attributing more credit to Peach than is due, thanks to Armada).

Warhawk, I can't see since I'm on my phone, but I assume you're a Falco main (based on your pro-fox opinion, haha, though your avatar helps, too). As a Falco main, it would seem natural that one wouldn't think Peach is overrated. She has a favorable matchup over Falco.

:phone:
 
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