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yeah but that's like not even the advice that top player's give. Few legitimate pros tells new players, atleast in a serious manner, to go pick their character based on the tier list.
Dunno, maybe it's useful to be able to concisely tell a new player "Check out the tier list if you want to know who to main" (even though that's kinda weird, since his level of play is probably the least applicable to what the tier list is based on) haha
I guess if these are the things we want to be telling our new, aspiring players, but I've seen very few good players whose best decision in game was looking at the tier list, and deciding who was the most successful character to use from that, instead of just learning the game and finding who they were best with or enjoyed the most. Seems weird that we put so much focus on new players for them to play to win, instead of using even a fraction of the amount of posts on learning to play.
I like this post a lot.I guess if these are the things we want to be telling our new, aspiring players, but I've seen very few good players whose best decision in game was looking at the tier list, and deciding who was the most successful character to use from that, instead of just learning the game and finding who they were best with or enjoyed the most. Seems weird that we put so much focus on new players for them to play to win, instead of using even a fraction of the amount of posts on learning to play.
But it doesn't really matter, I'm not here to tell you guys what to spend your time posting, and what to not post, my motivation for this game is pretty killed since the MK ban announcement, so I'm switching to Ocarina of Time, and some Melee on the side. None of my business to tell you guys what you should and shouldn't do, but it seems like no one ever considers these things anyways haha.
It feels weird that the prevailing advice that we give our new players when they're trying to figure out who they play is something along the lines of "Look at the tier list that's based on top level play, and pick one of the characters in high tier and work on your matchups" instead of something more like what KK was advising, stuff like "Play who you like and who you'll personally learn best with, and switch from that potentially bad character later on if you have aspirations of winning, and your character isn't cutting it".
and it seems weird that large parts of our community spends SO much time debating why their character is better than someone else's, or something, like it helps them in game in some way or something.
Do what you like I suppose, not up to me to decide, just my latest opinions I guess
I hate ratios too but the match up is even when played on most of G&W's best stages and I only see him having a slight advantage on RC which can always be banned. Everything else, he gets completely destroyed
probably because sheik is listed as -3
I'm aware of this, I was just wondering why.
That doesnt even make sense.
He's saying if we can air camp ICs, we can air camp Diddy
this once again doesnt make sense though although I agree with aero.
I never knew this.
it makes sense. One of the main reasons ICs **** GaW so hard is because our camping isn't really effective because we can't fight back when they try to stop it. Our only option is to continue to jump, and if we're out of jumps we'll get uaired. Diddy kong has bananas and aerials to stop us, but we can insta throw bananas and dair through aerials. To say we can run away from ICs and not diddy makes way less sense.
you might want to inform yourself before you wreck yourselfI agree with everything Table said.
Also, I think a lot of players here have become dettached from reality.
I remember when some sonics beat some top mks at a tourney, and people were saying he's still not viable because theoretically he should still get owned. Even if that's true, that has no relevance if in the real word if no one is playing at that theoretical level and top mks are losing to sonics. If top mks are losing to sonics, then sonic is viable in the real world, regardless of how viable he is in the theoretical world.
ICs can't really camp G&W with their projectiles since they go straight down. Diddy has better projectiles for camping G&W than ICs. G&W also has one of the worst trip animations which means that Diddy can do more against G&W after the trip then he can against most other characters. If the Diddy plays this MU super campy, the only way I could see the G&W winning is if he gets a 9 on the last stock or he times the Diddy out after he gets a 9 kill.
you didnt understand what i meant.
