~Marth's Match Ups~

[Steel]

k so i made an actual mk summary

lmk plz

might have forgot some things

 

[_Kadaj_]

Nice read, good work on the summary.

 

[Remzi]

Read the summary, just some comments.

-Recovering low is good, but no matter the opponent you absolutely must mix up your recovery. Especially against a gimping machine MK. If the reader was simply supposed to imply this I think you should clarify that.

-Something I like to do after MK uses fsmash is to counter, because chances are he will dsmash, at least from my experience.

-I've never had a straight answer, can MK PS the dthrow Fsmash at 0% or not?

-Glide is MKs copout to getting juggled, so it's not as easy as you claim from my experience.

Good guide

 

[Steel]

1.

Know that MK can predict your side b stall and let go of the ledge and dair gimp you. If you think he is going to chase you low before you have decided where to go then just jump over him and land safely on stage. It's a guessing game.

Thought that saying it's a guessing game would imply you shouldn't do the same thing every time >_>

2. risky **** son

3. if he knows exactly how to get out of it yes, but most don't and it's hard to do every time

4. if MK is about 2 characters lengths above a platform for example i don't think he is going to glide in this situation. juggle doesn't have to have multiple strings of attacks, just one or two up airs to put him in a bad situation is effective enough.

 

[illinialex24]

Don't try to off-stage gimp Metaknight if its at all dangerous for you. He is the master at the counter gimp on Marth. Watch out.

 

[Freezewish]

Summary looks good Steel. Great job :3

@Bengals:

He cant PS it, he can DI out though.

 

[Remzi]

Completely missed that part you quoted, *facepalm*

thanks for the response

anyways, i occasionally go out to gimp MK, even if just to see the "wtf" expression on their faces

 

[_Kadaj_]

BengalsRZ ive excommunicated u from md/va sryyyyy

 

[illinialex24]

Completely missed that part you quoted, *facepalm*

thanks for the response

anyways, i occasionally go out to gimp MK, even if just to see the "wtf" expression on their faces

If you can land a dair, your in a huge huge position of power. However, it leaves you soo vulnerable. And fair just really does damage and if he gets a dair on you, your screwed.

 

[Remzi]

BengalsRZ ive excommunicated u from md/va sryyyyy

hmm why

 

[_Kadaj_]

The wifi is affecting your brain lmao

 

[Commander_Beef]

Well yeah, every match is gay with Meta Knight.

View this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJXVvHmG5ew&feature=channel_page

 

[Remzi]

The wifi is affecting your brain lmao

xD I dont think its smart to try to gimp meta, just funny to see their reactions

or was it something else i said? if so, by all means excommunicate me

 

[_Kadaj_]

Completely missed that part you quoted, *facepalm*

thanks for the response

anyways, i occasionally go out to gimp MK, even if just to see the "wtf" expression on their faces

Something I like to do after MK uses fsmash is to counter, because chances are he will dsmash, at least from my experience.

These will get you ***** pretty bad, try reconsidering your options as you have a plethora of the, k?

 

[Remzi]

These will get you ***** pretty bad, try reconsidering your options as you have a plethora of the, k?

The gimping one was a joke, but if the counter thing is as unsafe as you guys are making it out to be, I think may have to lose the habit.

 

[takeurlife2]

the "kadaj combo", which was actually started by royr, can be SDI'd during nair and punished.

just confirming that for you.

 

[_Kadaj_]

actually i've been doing it since day one takeurlife.

also it cant be punished if they smash di the nair because you can do something else after nair OR if you dont know what that something is you could just block.

but hey i've been doing it for a year and i suck so...........to each his own

 

[Furbs]

It Was Roy Who Made It!

 

[_Kadaj_]

thats nice to hear, but is that even relevant?

anyway you can verify it other than your opinion or pulling up an old vid?

NO, so who cares call it whatever you want, it can be call the stanky leg for i care lmao

 

[Steel]

LOL@ TEXAS

If anything even gives you guys a WHIFF of Royr you all swarm to his jock to rescue/protect him from essentially nothing. I put kadaj combo for lols.

And thanks for the confirmation.

 

[ChaosKnight]

SDI lulz im still gonna hit you with something else even if you do DI that Nair

 

[BacklashMarth]

thats nice to hear, but is that even relevant?

anyway you can verify it other than your opinion or pulling up an old vid?

NO, so who cares call it whatever you want, it can be call the stanky leg for i care lmao

ROFL. When I first saw that video i couldnt belive it was really a song and dance XD.

As for the combo, i guess the only thing u can do is...well...DO IT. If it doesnt work, u shouldnt get punished that badly anyway. All esle fails, mindgames.

 

[En.Ee.Oh]

lol @ some of these posts



no wonder i can never be relevant

 

[∫unk]

Cause you're not roy_r dumb*** gtfo

 

[Jim Morrison]

So, Sonic boards are re-discussing Marth. It's been a while since we've done it and I think a lot has changed for both Marth and Sonic since then. We'd appreciate a little input. Here's the current write-up, which is a little outdated: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5386902#post5386902

Please stop by

 

[Commander_Beef]

There's better explanations in the links of the matchups with just a link on it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5YevzGYcO4&feature=channel_page

 

[Remzi]

Now that Marth vs MK is 35:65, I think it warrants a "Disadvantage" rather than "Slight Disadvantage" tag.

 

[Shaya]

Don't let the appearance of the matchups fool you, Metaknight is still a Slight Disadvantage.

 

[ChaosKnight]

NO MK can go die in a fire >>_>>

 

[Freezewish]

NO MK can go die in a fire >>_>>

It wont kill him. He can just Shuttle loop right out.

 

[Remzi]

Don't let the appearance of the matchups fool you, Metaknight is still a Slight Disadvantage.

I literally lol'd

 

[Steel]

Wario is no w 60 40

 

[feardragon64]

I know you basically gave up on match-up summaries but I think it's at least worth doing one for wolf seeing as we put him as 50/50 with marth.

 

[Steel]

i don't know anything about the wolf match

 

[feardragon64]

i don't know anything about the wolf match

Doesn't Shaya play against a wolf fairly often? I remember him talking about that wolf he used super button mashing hearing senses to beat.

Hell, where is ninjalink.

It's just bugging me because that wolf match up thread is 10 pages and the first 5 pages are outdated, the last 5 pages are people saying we'll come back to it. 5 Months later(lots of 5's in this paragraph), we still haven't rediscussed it....in the thread anyways. I think whatever discussion was done was in MBR.

 

[Pr0phetic]

Just to ask who came up with the conclusion it was 50:50 Wolf?

 

[ViCTORiOUSViC]

i think the Wolf matchup should be 55:45 Marth

 

[marth126]

good thread very helpful

 

[Pr0phetic]

I agree with Vic, even 60:40 works.

 

[ViCTORiOUSViC]

yea..like Wolf isn't bad..but Marth just owns