Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!

[VGmasta]

Also, I can do doctor mario Reverse up b cancels all day. Where you at Ricky!?

Forget that, I'd rather try to mimic Perfect Dark with Fox, lol.

 

[Max?]

UpB cancel fake

 

[KirbyKaze]

UpB cancel is meh

 

[Strong Badam]

if he didn't have to go through his specialfall landing animation it wouldn't be that bad. :/

 

[Max?]

Too bad you do and it's more or less worthless as a result

 

[Renth]

It's just another thing I have fun with, I like to troll Ricky because I don't play doctor mario but I can do reverse up b cancels with him lol. Glitches and exploits are my thing, if there's an exploit I've perfected it Ricky will tell ya hahaha.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y57Yq6tEq9w

This is how I use to have fun with the game

 

[VGmasta]

Mark you have soo many uploads, lol

Shroomed is getting so much sex from winning these tournaments all the time. I feel like such a virgin. I never get anything. :-/
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=13262430

 

[Shroomed]

I only get so much sex because my gf likes sex even more than me. =)

I really need to stop uptilting so much and spot dodging so much, Jeff punished me for this a lot with delayed aerials.

Anyone see any other aspect of my game where I'm lacking?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Simple question.

What are my options out of DThrow if G&W has port priorty? Would it be better to use Fthrow/Bthrow when Uthrow is no longer going to combo?

 

[VGmasta]

I only get so much sex because my gf likes sex even more than me. =)

I really need to stop uptilting so much and spot dodging so much, Jeff punished me for this a lot with delayed aerials.

Anyone see any other aspect of my game where I'm lacking?

I was implying about the figurative sex that your fellow audience gives you everytime they get impressed at your gameplay, lol. But YOU have a gf now?! Everybody is gettin' caked up these days, lol+smh.

And you do some risky *** FH f-airs that should NOT work so well, but ppl seem to jump into those things anyway. Other than that you're not really lacking much vs Falcon. I think the Falcon is lacking a very important tool though. I don't wanna really put it out there though, because is Jeff found out about it.... well, that match-up might become a lot worse for you. It makes Falcon is kinda broken vs Doc.

 

[Scrubs]

That cape comparison was pretty interesting and got me thinking...If you could combine the Mario and Doc would he move up the tier list? I would take:

Jab - Mario
U-tilt - Mario
D-tilt - Mario
F-tilt - Doc

Usmash - Doc
Dsmash - Doc
Fsmash - Mario

Uair - Mario
Dair - Mario
Nair - Mario
Fair - Doc

UpB - Doc
DownB - Doc
Cape - Mario
Neutral B - Doc

Dash - Doc
Grab - Mario (don't think these are any different)

Who would I want the character to be combined into - Mario(i.e. give mario the doc versions of the moves above rather than the other way around)

Would it be enough to get him into A tier?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

I like how you omitted bair because its so obvious

 

[VGmasta]

Yeah Doc's b-air IS obviously better that Mario's b-air. But Scrubs, you do know that Doc's d-air does more damage than Mario's d-air, right?

 

[Strong Badam]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTOdmLS5rfM

 

[Max?]

I really need to stop uptilting so much and spot dodging so much, Jeff punished me for this a lot with delayed aerials.

You have no idea

 

[Scrubs]

Yeah Bair is a pretty obvious one...I didn't know Doc's Dair did more damage than Mario's

Anyway....

Vids of my doc WF from a tourney on the weekend...I get wrecked by Marth (stupid things like attacking after using my double jump) but do okay against Fox

I used peach for the entire tourney up until WF...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRGNgALM7rw&feature=feedu

 

[BigWenz]

That cape comparison was pretty interesting and got me thinking...If you could combine the Mario and Doc would he move up the tier list? I would take:

Jab - Mario
U-tilt - Mario
D-tilt - Mario
F-tilt - Doc

Usmash - Doc
Dsmash - Doc
Fsmash - Mario

Uair - Mario
Dair - Mario
Nair - Mario
Fair - Doc

UpB - Doc
DownB - Doc
Cape - Mario
Neutral B - Doc

Dash - Doc
Grab - Mario (don't think these are any different)

Who would I want the character to be combined into - Mario(i.e. give mario the doc versions of the moves above rather than the other way around)

Would it be enough to get him into A tier?

with cape are u referring to the lift he gets from using it in the air? cause personally if docs cape gave him lift theirs no reason imo to take marios cape over docs.

 

[onionchowder]

Anyone want to explain to me the nuances of the Doc vs. Mario attack hitboxes, besides the obvious ones (pill, Nair, Fsmash, etc.)? What's the difference between their Uairs, Ftilts, jabs, etc?

 

[Strong Badam]

doc's uair does 10 damage while mario's does 11 (and thus has more knockback)

i'll post info on the rest later. in class atm. doc's utilt has a hitbox that sends forward tho.

 

[BigWenz]

Anyone want to explain to me the nuances of the Doc vs. Mario attack hitboxes, besides the obvious ones (pill, Nair, Fsmash, etc.)? What's the difference between their Uairs, Ftilts, jabs, etc?

up tilt - marios always send u straight up and is better for comboing/juggling while docs sends u seemingly random directions including almost perpendicular to the uptilting arm.

jabs - marios jab jab jab combo is alot faster then docs. jab jab jab to jab jab jab is actually a combo for mario while it doesnt work for doc.

 

[Max?]

With proper spacing, Doc's utilt pops people straight up as well. Anti-air Utilt -> fair is really gratifying, especially on spacies who are too Dair heavy.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Simple question.

What are my options out of DThrow if G&W has port priorty? Would it be better to use Fthrow/Bthrow when Uthrow is no longer going to combo?

Reposted .

 

[Dogysamich]

i tend to still d.throw because either they're going to tech or they're not (which is free d.smash or jab)


If they tech, you can regrab with a sharp reaction because it's g&w, it's not like he's gunna tech far away or anything.


you can also f.smash if you think they're not going to tech. Keep in mind g&w is light, so if you grab -> d.throw immediately, it's a hard reaction for them. it's to the point of where they have to guess where you're going to throw them when they get grabbed.

-blah blah continues ranting in circles knowing nobody really cares-

 

[BigWenz]

i forget, why does port priority matter in fighting game n watch?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

is that the one where g&w instantly hits the ground or lands on a platform or something like that?

 

[Smooth Criminal]

Reposted .

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=260929

BIBLE. READ.

-blah blah continues ranting in circles knowing nobody really cares-

I CARE.

Smooth Criminal

 

[Dogysamich]

i forget, why does port priority matter in fighting game n watch?

In that matchup, if Doc has higher port, g&w bounces on the ground like every other character (meaning he gets scraped free)


if g&w has it, he sticks like he does vs most people.


*sits back in rocking chair*

and people wonder why I said we should never forget port priority rules. Why, I remmeber back in my day when we made a huge fuss about port priority, CPing ports, and -blahdeblahdeblah-

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[Niko45]

Why do all of Dogy's posts sound so salty nowadays?

 

[Palpi]

Cause he's old!! Old angry man!

 

[standardtoaster]

Doctor Mario Hitboxes and Frame Data

 

[VGmasta]

Doctor Mario Hitboxes and Frame Data

I still wanna see MARIO's hitbbox gifs. I always see Doc's hitboxes. Where's Mario's gifs?!?

 

[Max?]

Mario sucks

 

[Dogysamich]

Why do all of Dogy's posts sound so salty nowadays?

Cause he's old!! Old angry black man!

^^^

And cause it's more fun that way.


But na, I did laugh when I said the CPing ports thing in my head, cause I do remember years ago when somebody beat me on Corneria, and I just CP'd my port to... p1 i think? Top of the fin, and 3 stocked him.


I also remember playing j00t at TO5 after i figured out the port priority thing. That man straight bumped (i think) rx out the way to grab player 1 before I could shake Rx's hand. When I saw him drop the icon on G&W, I was like "OH YOU *******, WHO THE F*** ACTUALLY READS WHAT I POST ON SWF ANYWAY?!?!?"


-rocks back'n'forth- those were the good ol' days.

 

[standardtoaster]

I still wanna see MARIO's hitbbox gifs. I always see Doc's hitboxes. Where's Mario's gifs?!?

I did Doc's because Strong Bad asked me to. I'll do mario's soon enough. I start school next week though. >.>

 

[VGmasta]

I did Doc's because Strong Bad asked me to. I'll do mario's soon enough. I start school next week though. >.>

Yeah, I'd greatly appreciate if someone could do Mario's gif.

 

[BigWenz]

laser camping fox. wat do?

 

[Max?]

Throw pills back. When you get a grab or hit, punish him to death with a combo or edgeguard. If you can't land a grab or hit, you're not throwing pills enough/correctly

 

[Shroomed]

Cape those lasers bro and keep the lead and force him to approach!

Pills too.

 

[boss8]

i jus wait....

lol doesnt fox hafe to come near u anyway?

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

no he doesnt haha

fox just runs away all game, timer runs out he wins :D