VGmasta
Smash Lord
Laser camping is not that big of a deal for Doc. It's that platform/b-air camping that really tough to get around.
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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
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onionchowder
Smash Journeyman
Any tips for platform tech-chasing, particularly vs Spacies? Normally I go for a waveland->regrab, but sometimes there isn't enough time for that. Sometimes I go for Fairs, but tech in place ->shield has a pretty small vulnerability window and teching away is often difficult to reach. Also, sometimes spacies shine ASAP. Is there any way I could be covering more of these options?
Max?
Smash Champion
The last time I played Jman in tournament he did nothing but shoot lasers at me all 3 games. JV 3ed him Game 1, barely lost game 2 on Stadium and then only lost game 3 cause of an SD at 0%. All I'm saying is, that **** is fake.
Get at me
Get at me
boss8
Smash Hero
well i've never lost to Jman in turney......
GET AT ME
GET AT ME
Max?
Smash Champion
Come to one of our tournies Boss.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Boss probably played him in like 2007.
boss8
Smash Hero
na i played him in 09......
and he''d prob beat me now....it would jus be really close...
i should max maybe one weekend..
and he''d prob beat me now....it would jus be really close...
i should max maybe one weekend..
Max?
Smash Champion
Word, I've always wanted to play you (despite how much I hate Doc dittos). Used to be a big fanboy before I got ****. Now I idolize no one.
Palpi
Smash Hero
Lol, too ****ing tight
boss8
Smash Hero
yea.....i think everyone had one....
mine was bob$/smashmac
mine was bob$/smashmac
VGmasta
Smash Lord
Yeah, I saw BobMoney's combo vid three years ago, which really put me on edgeguarding.
SmashMac's matches put me on tech skill. I had no idea Doc could move so fast and smooth until I saw SmashMac dashing all over the place.
Oh and I still love Doc dittos. Would totally money match ANY Doc player in here, seriously... except Dogysamich, he would probably still beat me.
SmashMac's matches put me on tech skill. I had no idea Doc could move so fast and smooth until I saw SmashMac dashing all over the place.
Oh and I still love Doc dittos. Would totally money match ANY Doc player in here, seriously... except Dogysamich, he would probably still beat me.
Max?
Smash Champion
LOL, nvm. I need to stop posting when im drunk
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my idol is and always will be otg
Max?
Smash Champion
Strong Bad let's spoon
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Max?
Smash Champion
Go back to trolling dogy.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
D: But I can't!
Have you ever tried trolling that salty-*** mofo?
It's ****ing impossible. I gave up a long time ago---specifically after he beat me with his Kirby, of all characters.
Smooth Criminal
Have you ever tried trolling that salty-*** mofo?
It's ****ing impossible. I gave up a long time ago---specifically after he beat me with his Kirby, of all characters.
Smooth Criminal
wait, i see my name came up as target of future malice.
and now I'm... in cahoots with somebody else?
and then I'ma troll for playing my low tier main?
.... -shruuuuuuuuuuuuuuug-
For the record, as much stuff as I do, have, and possibly will ever talk about melee, Doc dittoes on FD will ALWAYS be one of my favorite forms of head-to-head gaming.
Full Court da byess!
and now I'm... in cahoots with somebody else?
and then I'ma troll for playing my low tier main?
.... -shruuuuuuuuuuuuuuug-
For the record, as much stuff as I do, have, and possibly will ever talk about melee, Doc dittoes on FD will ALWAYS be one of my favorite forms of head-to-head gaming.
Full Court da byess!
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FD Doc Dittos at Apex Dogy?
VGmasta
Smash Lord
I remember having front row seats to Dogy vs Smashmac at Tipped Off 6 CEO 2010 a year ago. The whole set was played on FD.
@SB: Sure. Hopefully that's not the first time I've played melee in 2012 or in the past 6 months (both are possible)
@Ricky: CEO* unless I have a ridiculously bad memory (which is entirely possible, but iirc the B Bros didnt go to TO6)
@Ricky: CEO* unless I have a ridiculously bad memory (which is entirely possible, but iirc the B Bros didnt go to TO6)
VGmasta
Smash Lord
Oh yea, the Laytons were absent from Tipped Off 6. I was totally thinking of CEO 2010.
Anyway guys, just came from a melee tournament. There could be vids of me and SmashMac coming soon!
silentSWAG
Smash Lord
what should i do when a fox upthrows me. i know i can jump out of it before fox can get a full hop up air, but i get ***** without my second jump. i try to nair out of the upthrow to conserve my jump but when i do that i always get hit by the up air. help
Fortress | Sveet
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bair has better speed/hitboxes than nair in terms of breaking out, so if you want to try to trade with the first hit of uair or even risk trading with the 2nd hit, thats your move. I think i may have seen shroomed use dair for this, but i'm not sure his reasoning behind it.
In any case, unless you are in kill percent, its not that big of a deal to get hit by the uair. Personally, i would choose to trade/get hit by the uair just to test the fox's balls, at least at the beginning of a set. If he is consistently going for it and winning out of the trade, you are probably forced to eat the uair or jump. Jumping isnt that bad, just don't try to attack him on the way down. Land on a platform even if it means getting hit because worst comes to worst you can still CC and you have your jump back. If the option is available, just fall to the edge. Don't forget that doc does have some pretty good control of his fall speed by using cape and downb (which can be made to stall or fall faster if you're feeling really tricky).
tl;dr you have a lot of options, just remember not to rely on attacking from a defensive position
In any case, unless you are in kill percent, its not that big of a deal to get hit by the uair. Personally, i would choose to trade/get hit by the uair just to test the fox's balls, at least at the beginning of a set. If he is consistently going for it and winning out of the trade, you are probably forced to eat the uair or jump. Jumping isnt that bad, just don't try to attack him on the way down. Land on a platform even if it means getting hit because worst comes to worst you can still CC and you have your jump back. If the option is available, just fall to the edge. Don't forget that doc does have some pretty good control of his fall speed by using cape and downb (which can be made to stall or fall faster if you're feeling really tricky).
tl;dr you have a lot of options, just remember not to rely on attacking from a defensive position
VGmasta
Smash Lord
VGmasta vs Project (Falcon)vids of me and SmashMac coming soon!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-jG2hWhSJY&feature=related
VGmasta vs Proteus (Falcon)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmJ-ikD5eI8
VGmasta vs SmashMac (Doc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_AP_svSCB0
Tommy Pickles
Smash Apprentice
lololololololol
FAKE AS ****
FAKE AS ****
silentSWAG
Smash Lord
doc is a pretty unique, cool, fun matha ****a
boss8
Smash Hero
yea i watched some advent vids and it didnt even look like people where playing serious....
Palpi
Smash Hero
nah boss, the south just sucks
Melee, as a whole, has kinda been like that for years. Yeah, you have people who still tryhard; but some of the "spotlight players" have honestly been messin' around for a while and the community's kinda accepted it.
doc dittos suck ****
SmashMac
Smash Lord
Nah. I was serious, I just tried other chars besides Doc. My Doc. wasn't doing as great as I wanted him to so I pulled out that Fox and did some work.
VGmasta
Smash Lord
Hip hip hooray for the highest placing Doc at ADVENT ^^
Hopefully I can get that spot next time
Max?
Smash Champion
Ricky, I'm still mad at you for losing to Project. Step it up homie
VGmasta
Smash Lord
Mannn, that was 'FAKE' though. So many unusual technical errors and ****.
As soon as I get .... Nevermind, you'll see
Max?
Smash Champion
Project is ****ing horribad tho, all I'm saying. You gonna have to put in that 9-5 homie, that or move to NY.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=13398041#post13398041
Any Docs interested?
I'm hoping for any of HMW, Shroomed, otg, boss, Smashmac, and Dogy but if others want to contribute, don't be shy!
PM me if you want to participate.
Any Docs interested?
I'm hoping for any of HMW, Shroomed, otg, boss, Smashmac, and Dogy but if others want to contribute, don't be shy!
PM me if you want to participate.
Shroomed
Smash Master
My gameplay is stupid, I don't think you want me advising people on how to play man.
Bob$ is the smartest doc I've seen, I'd ask him.
I wish him vs M2K got recorded at Genesis.
Bob$ is the smartest doc I've seen, I'd ask him.
I wish him vs M2K got recorded at Genesis.
boss8
Smash Hero
bob dollar sign xD
Palpi
Smash Hero
If OTG did it...it would probably be something like.
"See, in this type of situation, you should this move here..cause its swag, and if you don't, you're mad fake."
not a bad thing
"See, in this type of situation, you should this move here..cause its swag, and if you don't, you're mad fake."
not a bad thing