DK will NEVER be able to Cargo Stage Spike again!

[UTDZac]

I'm going to keep this simple.

1) Pick Donkey Kong.
2) Have your 3 yr old sister pick any character.
3) Go to Final Destination.
4) Have your sister hold UP (or DOWN) on the control stick.
5) Try to Cargo Stage Spike her.

Oddly enough holding UP or DOWN during a cargo hold is just as fast as trying to wiggle out by pressing all the buttons. Sorry folks, but the cargo stage spike no longer works.

- Credit goes to Bwett and Fogo. EDIT: and Ice.

 

[Ripple]

Gay!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gea]

lol WUT. That is amazingly terrible.

 

[UTDZac]

That's exactly what I said.

"No way. How the hell would holding just ONE direction be faster than pressing everything at once. Grabs don't work like that"

*1min later*

"Omg........... Omg........... GAY!!!!!1"

 

[Gnes]

Ugh...Dallas isnt cool anymore

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

lol

Someone just stage tech me and edgehogged me to my death.

 

[TheHulk]

yo man would someone delete this thread?

 

[Ussi]

hurray? :D D:

 

[Ripple]

this had better not be true for side b also

 

[RP`]

A black SUV with men in black suits and sunglasses are going to show up at your house in 10-15 mins. I suggest you start running your *** off now.

 

[TheHulk]

i swear... this guy im surprised he has a gut to make this thread.

 

[Ussi]

I wonder if this works for anything that requires button mashing... Sakurai even took button mashing skills out... did he?

 

[Kawaii Poyo]

YAYUHZZ!

Sorry DKs, but Donkey Kong is possibly my most hated match-up. You people on the DK boardz should keep your character's weakness a secret.

Well, this is good for me :D

 

[Fogo]

Haha we screwed DKs XD

 

[magikguy]

Good thing stage spiking was not in my game.

 

[Bwett]

Yall got wrecked! rofl

 

[Jiom]

at around 80% you can still pull it off if they are close to the edge, i just tried to right now.

 

[Crystanium]

Wow, this is very disappointing. I wonder if this means another drop on the tier list for Donkey Kong.

 

[illinialex24]

Wow this is awesome. Pretty cool stuff.

 

[UTDZac]

this had better not be true for side b also

It's not. I tested it. (well, I only tested holding up)

I wonder how many other things in the game break to "just holding up" or some combination of things... can you imagine instant grab break? o.O

 

[F_T_S]

not that much of a problem....stopped cargo spiking after people learned to tech....DK is a lot more than just hurling foes into stages

 

[itsthebigfoot]

Wow, this is very disappointing. I wonder if this means another drop on the tier list for Donkey Kong.

nah, most don't really use the stage spike since the good players would just tech the thing, still works at later % too

Haha we screwed DKs XD

just like the ddds to screw the dks

I'm so learning ice climbers for pay back

 

[Veggi]

Make this thread go away. : (

Edit: where's the thread for this?

 

[Ussi]

this really shouldn't mean anything except maybe for the Characters like Ike and Link who get CDT off the edge to a no recovery zone. I guess small characters get the benefit of not learning to tech this now on FD.

 

[Kawaii Poyo]

Sorry peepz, I may just be bad against Donkey Kong, iono but personally I think he's gayer than MK.

HE KILLS AT 70%-80%!

And can't be killed himself unless its a gimp or spike

He deserves a nerf

The main reason I hate DK is cause I get nervous when I'm in kill percentage so when I'm at 70% I'm already nervous.

 

[kevinw0w]

There's not even video proof yet. But still, the nerf of the OP...

 

[TheNix]

How is this a big deal? Decent players already struggled out of the cargo within seconds below like 70%. This just moves a technique from "unreliable and risky" to "unusable until high %s, at which point is still risky".

This is certainly an interesting discovery but it doesn't change anything.

 

[ZHMT]

I rather tech it, its more fun ^^

 

[Bwett]

There's not even video proof yet. But still, the nerf of the OP...

This isn't something that is ridiculously difficult to pull off to see if it works. All it requires is a person to hold up. There is no need for a video.

Also, at high percents, you still have plenty of time to get off the spike if you are close to the ledge. This is really only terrible for low percentage gimps.

 

[ZHMT]

I thought the higher percent, the harder it is to get out of the cargo...

 

[SamuraiPanda]

Why would you post this? I discovered it the second week of Brawl and kept it a secret so nobody would know. Good job on making DK worse.

All this means is that you can't cargo spike until they are at the percent where they cannot break out in time. So you don't get those easy cargo spikes against people that don't mash. Not that huge of a deal.

 

[UTDZac]

...Not that huge of a deal.

Exactly. So what's the problem? I'm posting this because I watched one of my good friends lose to a DK player in tournament just because of a silly technique. I secondary DK, but I have never gotten any CSS kills because the people I play against wiggle out too fast.

Honestly this doesn't make any difference. All it does is allow bad players to avoid the quick cargo kills of DK. Good players were already avoiding it by wiggling out fast.

IMO Cargo Stage Spiking is NOT an integral part of DKs game. It only works against bad players. If you really don't like me for posting this then lock/close/delete this thread, I won't be upset. But I don't see how this new found knowledge will make beating good players more difficult.

 

[RP`]

Doesn't matter for me. I seldom did it any way until higher percents because it is still easy to wiggle out of, so you are risking being footstooled, never mind a lot of people are able to tech it. At lower percents I would rather just cargo downthrow while still on stage and go for a spike. Less risky.

 

[daisho]

Well when playing dks who attempt this if you can wiggle out faster than you will spike him...

If you play as DK and others don't know about it you can get free easy kills...

The reasons that you posted this are honestly beyond me.

And not that I care because i never used this tecnique anyway.

 

[Chis]

Can't you just...er...tech the stage? I thought that was common knowledge.

 

[daisho]

Can't you just...er...tech the stage? I thought that was common knowledge.

yeah but that requires some sense of timing, this is just uber easy.

 

[Rhyme]

You people on the DK boardz should keep your character's weakness a secret.

Only solvable problems should be made into a public announcement.

 

[Shy Guy 86]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

DK Cargo Stage Spikes were amazingly fun

 

[Bwett]

You post the information for the evolution of the metagame of Brawl. Left out information can become lost because someone doesn't post it. The Yoshi boards didn't want me to tell people that CG to fair wasn't guaranteed, but it really is quite ridiculous to silence knowledge just to punish people for their ignorance of your character's "secret" attributes.

 

[UTDZac]

@Bwett: Exactly. Though I'm not about to tell people about the flaw with G&W's upsmash Shhh