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Trott
Smash Rookie
how i b33t ganondwarf he iz sew gud? G is for gawd tier.
G is also for grow up.
Trott
Smash Rookie
Gamegenie222
Space Pheasant Dragon Tactician
I got a tourney coming up this weekend and I ask for advice of my fellow birds against MK,Snake,D3, Wario, Wolf, Peach and Marth foe that lie ahead of me for which to come?
MARLX
Smash Journeyman
Do IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Snake- Laser avoid platform stages chain grab and get him off the stage!
D3- Camp D3 out chain grab and get the kill!
Wario- chain grab bair nair and camp!
Wolf- avoid dacus, chain grab wolf, camp!
Peach- nair camp kill!
Marth- boost pivot chain grab, camp, get him off the stage, get under him, kill!
MK- Laser like a ***** and rack up damage and then get the kill!
Snake- Laser avoid platform stages chain grab and get him off the stage!
D3- Camp D3 out chain grab and get the kill!
Wario- chain grab bair nair and camp!
Wolf- avoid dacus, chain grab wolf, camp!
Peach- nair camp kill!
Marth- boost pivot chain grab, camp, get him off the stage, get under him, kill!
swordsaint
Smash Master
hey dude i've seen a few of your posts lately and are you like, the worsts best troll or the worlds worst falco?
Boofy!
Smash Champion
You dare question the methods of the MARLX, the King of Brawl?!
swordsaint
Smash Master
get at me. etc etc.
SN Viper
Formerly 9th in FL PR
finally someone said something about his posts.
i have been thinking the same thing for a while now. but his posts were just so bad i did not want to correct them.
Marlx man you have to learn the meta game better before you can give good advice. I am glad you are contributing but i think you should learn and absorb till you get a few tourneys under your belt and you understand the game better
i have been thinking the same thing for a while now. but his posts were just so bad i did not want to correct them.
Marlx man you have to learn the meta game better before you can give good advice. I am glad you are contributing but i think you should learn and absorb till you get a few tourneys under your belt and you understand the game better
Trott
Smash Rookie
Shoot 'em 'til he's dead and don't get hit.
swordsaint
Smash Master
im here for a day and I'm already in to it. you guys were slacking.
@Blub, im pretty sure it goes a little higher than that. we can cg snake for longer than most characters. Even MK goes up to about 37 > dthrow > dair.
DJ Arcatek
Smash Champion
If you grab MK from 0%, you can end the CG at 43% and get the Dair.
Then from there, just proceed the techchasing and ****.
Then from there, just proceed the techchasing and ****.
Firebird techchase?
swordsaint
Smash Master
the last regrab is actually at 37, the 43 comes from the final dthrow > dair. which i did include.
DJ Arcatek
Smash Champion
No you're wrong.
SN Viper
Formerly 9th in FL PR
i dare you to explain why. for the sake of discussion.
Gamegenie222
Space Pheasant Dragon Tactician
So what should I do to deal with Diddy Kong and what to do in that MU?
DJ Arcatek
Smash Champion
Lol I was just trolling him, Viper. The way I remember it, you can get up to 5 grabs on MK before you're able to do a Dair. 5 grabs = 43% + Dair = 56%.
I could be wrong though.
I could be wrong though.
swordsaint
Smash Master
is it really so hard to understand what i was saying? I am agreeing with you, but clarifying on the point that its like this
37% > regrab > 43 > dair.
the way you said it initially implied that you could
37% > regrab > 43 > regrab > dair
swordsaint
Smash Master
On stage for sure. At least there we have tech chase follow ups, including but not limited to the gatling combo which is our most useful follow up assuming we can get it.
We wouldn't go out of our way to challenge Metaknight offstage in other situations, why would we do it just because we chain spiked him off? It's dangerous as ****ing **** on a **** sandwich.
We wouldn't go out of our way to challenge Metaknight offstage in other situations, why would we do it just because we chain spiked him off? It's dangerous as ****ing **** on a **** sandwich.
BleachigoZX
Smash Master
I don't think people appreciate the simple advantages of the the final hit in a chain grab.
For example, you might not want to spike a MK offstage simply because he has a recovery that Falco can't take advantage of at that position of the stage. You put MK in a favorable planking position, when you can just up smash him and try to take advantage of landing options. (Even though he has a ton of them, it sure as hell beats putting him under the stage where you can't do anything to him.)
For example, you might not want to spike a MK offstage simply because he has a recovery that Falco can't take advantage of at that position of the stage. You put MK in a favorable planking position, when you can just up smash him and try to take advantage of landing options. (Even though he has a ton of them, it sure as hell beats putting him under the stage where you can't do anything to him.)
swordsaint
Smash Master
^
I've been mixing up the chain grab and ending it with up smash lately, im starting to think the old school upsmash out of chain grab can become useful again on many characters.
I've been mixing up the chain grab and ending it with up smash lately, im starting to think the old school upsmash out of chain grab can become useful again on many characters.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
I would get a dair before a gatling. If they are smart you will probably just get a dash attack % wise and try and follow up from there? Dair keeps that momentum rolling though
I like the feel of momentum. CG>Spike>Fsmash wrecks confidence and puts up 60%.
It feels a lot like laning against this guy in LoL
DJ Arcatek
Smash Champion
Oh now I see what you meant, swordsaint. I just worded it wrongly, but nah, we're both on the same page lol.
Also, I think Dair is the best option out of Dthrow at low percentages. When at higher %, I would usually go for the BDacus if they always SDI to the side. If not, bait the airdodge if they SDI up.
Also, I think Dair is the best option out of Dthrow at low percentages. When at higher %, I would usually go for the BDacus if they always SDI to the side. If not, bait the airdodge if they SDI up.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
its been 3 years now, people still arent teching the dair after the CG, so if theyre gonna keep letting you tech chase them, then you might as well keep abusing it.
swordsaint
Smash Master
the fact you assumed I ment CG > gatling combo is insulting.
i meant, CG > dair on stage > gatling tech cahse.
swordsaint
Smash Master
If they SDI up, it's an easy back air.
DJ Arcatek
Smash Champion
^True. Nair works pretty well too.
swordsaint
Smash Master
i like bair more personally, as what i almost always do after i land a bair is reverse a laser. it hits a due to the angles bair hits at.
teluoborg
Smash Otter
I think you mean DI, not SDI. Because if you found a way to SDI a throw you must tell me.
DJ Arcatek
Smash Champion
Oh whoops haha. Yeah, I meant to say DI.
Okay, thank you, really appreciated! I would say this MU is in R.O.B.'s disadvantage (40:60).The one thing to do in the ROB matchup - Camp.
ROB has no answer to lasers. He'll be lucky to get a Gyro in or even a laser, but that's why you have Reflector. In terms of close quarters, Jab ***** him. If you do a full spinning jab, most ROBs are gonna try to Fair you out of the attack, but you can power shield it most of the time then proceed to punish.
DO NOT go offstage vs. him. You will get gimp'd or be put in a bad position.
Both characters have trouble killing, but since Falco is lighter and has worse recovery options than ROB, he will lose his stock first. But, that shouldn't be the case most of the time since you're camping
In my opinion, the matchup is like 60:40/55:45 Falco's favor. They each have their tools and whatnot, but I think Falco just has an advantage in the matchup.
Orion*
Smash Researcher
my bad lolthe fact you assumed I ment CG > gatling combo is insulting.
i meant, CG > dair on stage > gatling tech cahse.
werent you texas at some point btw? it sais aussie now XD