§leepy God
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♪ You should main Jin and Ragna. Jin = Marth, Ragna = Ike.Also, posting to hype BlazBlueand see my new sig in action.
† ♪ Though not hard to master, their fun to play as. †
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† ♪ Though not hard to master, their fun to play as. †
theeboredone
Smash Legend
Ally is coming to the upcoming Hobo...there goes first place LOL.
Also heard rumors on Inui, Atomsk, and SK92 coming...will confirm soon.
EDIT: Confirmed Ally...the others are coming to HOBO18. The one upcoming is 17.
Also heard rumors on Inui, Atomsk, and SK92 coming...will confirm soon.
EDIT: Confirmed Ally...the others are coming to HOBO18. The one upcoming is 17.
Kimchi
Smash Ace
I recommend Jab to Utilt for these floaty characters, especially Kirby, because they can't do **** about it. We have a 7 frame advantage iirc after jab and floaty characters are pretty vulnerable to Utilt.
Ussi
Smash Legend
I'm gonna therycraft:
DI up + jump + uair (forget if this is 4 or 5 frames) takes 5-6 frames + 6-7 frames hitstun = 11-13 frames... At worse we get hit at best we collide hits.
DI up + jump + uair (forget if this is 4 or 5 frames) takes 5-6 frames + 6-7 frames hitstun = 11-13 frames... At worse we get hit at best we collide hits.
Ragna's cool but, I'm seriously in love with Jin. Also, I plan to second Noel.♪ You should main Jin and Ragna. Jin = Marth, Ragna = Ike.
♪ Though not hard to master, their fun to play as. †
MysticKenji
Smash Master
Kirby's uair apparently hits on Frame 10 so he'd have to bair in order to hit us/trade hits
Just jumping and airdodging would probably be better for him
Rykoshet
Smash Champion
7 Frame advantage on a frame 13 move means they have 6 to still retaliate, mario's already in the air, his up air comes out before frame 6 if I remember correctly. If I don't then obviously yeah.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEEYrQjECMg
1:57, it's kind of stupid.
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
*!*
CURSE MY LACK OF MONEY TO BE ABLE TO GO OVER TO HOBO!!!
There would be another Canadian for once.
King of Sack
Smash Journeyman
Can the "Eruption Spike" actually spike, or is it just for show? (provided that someone has actually tested this)
Is it just my imagination or does eruption actually reach higher than Uair?
Rykoshet
Smash Champion
it's a pillar, why wouldnt it.
Ussi
Smash Legend
I had a fully charged eruption hit kirby who was practically on the top platform on BF while i was grounded.
YagamiLight
Smash Champion
I've never managed to actually hit with the spike hitbox on an aerial opponent. I tried it out in training and I still couldn't get the spike part to register. Whether this signifies that there is no spike on aerial opponents or that I simply suck at landing it is not known.
Yeah, it does. The hitbox on Eruption is pretty crazy.
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
I know somebody who said they've managed to land it twice, but I haven't seen him online in a LONG time. >_<
The reach is just really surprising. I can see it working as a surprise anti-air. It would probably only work once in a set but even when uncharged eruption is pretty strong.
Melfice z
Smash Ace
It would take some pretty good prediction/reaction though, most people see it coming too ;_;
edit: Hence once a set XD
edit: Hence once a set XD
metroid1117
Smash Master
I didn't save the replay, but I was playing my brother (who was G&W) on Pokemon Stadium 1. It turned into the fire stage and he was camping under the tree at the left side and I was between the tree branches. I used Eruption while he jumped and he was spiked into the ground - he didn't bounce upwards like he would of if he was on the ground while he was hit. It does work, it's just very impractical.
King of Sack
Smash Journeyman
How strong was it?
Teh Brettster
Smash Master
Lol.
You're just curious because your ultimate goal in life is to land an eruption spike out of someone's Aether.
I should adopt that goal. I've fulfilled my other goal of Dtilting people out of Aether more than once. Or perhaps I should just tweak that goal to Dtilting people other than Slaps.... LOL.
You're just curious because your ultimate goal in life is to land an eruption spike out of someone's Aether.
I should adopt that goal. I've fulfilled my other goal of Dtilting people out of Aether more than once. Or perhaps I should just tweak that goal to Dtilting people other than Slaps.... LOL.
King of Sack
Smash Journeyman
You expected anything less? =)
And no, not in life. My ultimate goal in life is to play Kirk offline. :]
We should make that a collective Ike boards goal.
To the lucky person who pulls it off: Be sure to save a replay!
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
I have a goal to one day beat Espy, who is in the same city as me.
As for a reachable goal: Teach my muscles to do more then just cancel jab into grab. Jab to Utilt would help my game a lot. >_>
As for a reachable goal: Teach my muscles to do more then just cancel jab into grab. Jab to Utilt would help my game a lot. >_>
Palpi
Smash Hero
I have connected jab>utilt once. DI > Jab > utilt.
Melomaniacal
Smash Champion
Yeah, but you've also connected jab > eruption.
Arturito_Burrito
Smash Master
Well jumping is the best way to get out for most characters. The Up Air doesn't actually get him out of a grab it just hits if you don't grab him.
The only things that work better than jumping would be moves with invincibility frames on the first frame because you should be grab armoring any moves that ht on frame 1 which i think is only luigis nair.
Also the eruption spike doesn't light people on fire when you hit you'll notice it right away even if its on stage.
lcampoy8
Smash Journeyman
Should i use the c-stick for my aerials? 'cause i hear/see a lot of ikes doing it. Do any of you do this?
Hey everyone can we invite you all to this thread
We're discussing zelda and ike on the same team and the strategies they can use. Would be great to get more input.
We're discussing zelda and ike on the same team and the strategies they can use. Would be great to get more input.
Palpi
Smash Hero
It is all your personal preference. For a character like marth using c-stick is a lot more helpful since you can DI each aerial a different way depending on spacing.
With Ike it isn't as important, but I still use c-stick.
Melfice z
Smash Ace
From my experience it makes no visual difference using either control scheme, do what you're comfortable with. 
Teh Brettster
Smash Master
Well, for retreating aerials, you should use C-stick.
And if your C-stick is set to attack, there is of course the C-stick walkoff Dair.
I use my C-stick for Uair and Dair a lot... and for retreating aerials.
And if your C-stick is set to attack, there is of course the C-stick walkoff Dair.
I use my C-stick for Uair and Dair a lot... and for retreating aerials.
Rykoshet
Smash Champion
I manually input all my retreating and advancing aerials to just circumvent the stupid empty hop glitch.
Rykoshet
Smash Champion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCRSsj08CuE♪ You should main Jin and Ragna. Jin = Marth, Ragna = Ike.
Thanks for the quick replies on my other question I did look up some videos and I did learn a few things but alas I have another question I try to use n-air as much as I can but lately Ive been noticing that when I SH n-air I usually get shield grabbed so then I try to space it as much as I can but I still get shield grabbed am I spacing it wrong or is this normal? Also is it better if i just FJFF n-air? Thanks in advance
Melfice z
Smash Ace
Full jump n-air will put you at even more of a disadvantage
if youre constantly getting shieldgrabbed, spacing a f-air would be your best bet.
is it a specific character thats shieldgrabbing you? that would make the question easier to awnser ^__^
*awaits contradiction*
if youre constantly getting shieldgrabbed, spacing a f-air would be your best bet.
is it a specific character thats shieldgrabbing you? that would make the question easier to awnser ^__^
...but maybe i should just look pretty and play a respectable Ike... ive been coated in failsauce lately
*awaits contradiction*
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Yah you have to be very careful when you're approaching with Nair, it's a lot easier than Fair to shield grab if you don't space well. I only approach with Nair if I notice my opponent likes to short-hop a lot, if I notice they like to shield, I generally don't use Nair as an approach. The obvious advantage of Nair is that if you space well, it has next to no landing lag even if you fast fall it, so if you can space it well enough that they miss the grab, you can punish them with a jab and lead into all kinds of fun stuff.
metroid1117
Smash Master
I just placed 3rd in a Brawl+ tourney even though I haven't played it for like... months lol... Ike is crazy good in Brawl+, he has some ridiculous combos and edgeguards.
I didn't get a chance to play in Brawl Singles though, that was on Saturday and I could only go on Sunday.
I didn't get a chance to play in Brawl Singles though, that was on Saturday and I could only go on Sunday
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Ussi
Smash Legend
I've tried B+, i didn't really like Ike's moveset, it was too slow for that game. Pikachu however, ***** in it.
Ussi
Smash Legend
Ike loses his ability to land kill moves on the ground Effectively as his ground game is way too slow to be used in a fast paced game. Everyone is significantly faster and with dash jumps giving more momentum, it's too easy to weave in and out against Ike. On stage it's pretty harder since you are forced to use only aerials. Egdeguarding however, is significantly better with eruption, dtilt, and aether.
Teh Brettster
Smash Master
Brawl+ sucks butt.
Balanced Brawl is better.
Balanced Brawl is better.
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