DeliciousCake
Smash Lord
It's great against falling opponents, and it can keep combo's going if you use it properly. That's about the general gist of it.
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Zero Suit Samus Questions & Answers
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saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Is there any place where it shows all of Samus's (I don't like calling her ZSS like it is her god given name -_-) true combo's? ie Dash Attack> Jab, or something that show's complete combo's such as; B-Throw> Dash Attack> F-Tilt> Ftilt> Dash Attack> U-Tilt> Up B> D-Smash> D-Smash> F-Smash
Just saying.... I did check out the stickies and I either missed it or it's not there. However I did find bits of combo info here and there.
Just saying.... I did check out the stickies and I either missed it or it's not there. However I did find bits of combo info here and there.
Adapt
Smash Lord
saviorslegacy
My avater is not a Sheik avatar.
Figured something like that would be in a sticky but I couldn't seem to locate it. Sorry for your trouble though. :/
Adapt
Smash Lord
no worries, I knew exact location of the thread anyway
nandryshak
Smash Rookie
Hey guys, I used to main ZSS before switching to Falco a while back. I never really got in depth for ZSS. Does she have any ATs that I should know about? Anything to focus on? (ie equivalent to a CG) Thanks.
Rawr_
Smash Apprentice
two words: platform harassment
it can rip apart a shield if someone ends up over you, on the sides of BF, on Lylat, or pretty much anywhere else there's platforms. it also shield pokes from below, and it can set up for all kinds of fun stuff. it's also a good launcher at low %'s; dsmash dsmash usmash aerial rave. (XD sorry for TvC terms, that game is too good >_>)
Upsmash is also useful for blocking attacks from above, it clashes or outprioritizes every dair in the game (correct me if i'm wrong on that)
Snakeee
Smash Master
Up smash does break every d-air, but for d-airs that can be broken with Up-B that would be a better choice most of the time.
Up smash is also good for mindgames once in a while because it's her only attack that has that kind of duration with multiple hitboxes. People will drop their shields a lot when you use it randomly, and like "Rawr" said, it is pretty good for pressure on platforms.
Up smash is also good for mindgames once in a while because it's her only attack that has that kind of duration with multiple hitboxes. People will drop their shields a lot when you use it randomly, and like "Rawr" said, it is pretty good for pressure on platforms.
Snakeee
Smash Master
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
Questions:
Is ZSS's DACUS any good?
Have any ZSSs tried applying this Marth AT using down b as a substitute for dolphin slash? I'm not sure if you can grab the ledge off a ledge drop>downb
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=216620
Is ZSS's DACUS any good?
Have any ZSSs tried applying this Marth AT using down b as a substitute for dolphin slash? I'm not sure if you can grab the ledge off a ledge drop>downb
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=216620
DeliciousCake
Smash Lord
Watch a few video's and you'll realize this is becoming more and more common.
Nefarious B
Smash Champion
Ya I just watched one of Snakeees vids someone posted in one of these threads and it seemed like he was doing that as well, seems like a useful way to get around the 3 tether stalling rule.
Snakeee
Smash Master
I plank too much
Really?
maybe im doin' it wrong...
Adapt
Smash Lord
He has a very good ZSS, I wish he play in brawl tourneys, she's needs the representation.
CommanderCody08
Smash Apprentice
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I always fight people who spam horizontal projectiles (Toon Link, Lucas, and Wolf mostly).
Whats a good way to appraoch a spammer using zero suit? My approach suck right now in general and people are exploitng it.
Whats a good way to appraoch a spammer using zero suit? My approach suck right now in general and people are exploitng it.
Airgemini
Chansey
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Normally what I do is space Forward B.
Approaching a TL is hard, i have problems w/ it myself and its even worse on FD.
and for the ROB matchup: Rob dominates too much on BF, i was playing holy and he put ALOT of pressure on me, i could barely do anything ad my Plasma whips werent connecting as i wouldve wanted. just BF, NO.
and for the ROB matchup: Rob dominates too much on BF, i was playing holy and he put ALOT of pressure on me, i could barely do anything ad my Plasma whips werent connecting as i wouldve wanted. just BF, NO.
GwJ
Smash Hero
You could always jump over them.
CommanderCody08
Smash Apprentice
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I geuss, but a lot of the time they stand near the edge of the stage. I've also tried jumping past them and using a spaced over b, but that usually justs get shielded, and the ran away from. When I try approaching with an aerial I get shield-grabbed, or even if I hit behind them they still sheild and then do a Bair out of the shield or run away again or something.
I geuss I just need to get less predictable - approach with some air dodges and stuff, not only attacks.
CommanderCody08
Smash Apprentice
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Also is there any way to get her over b to not sweetspot the ledge? I'm about 98% sure you can't but it would be awesome if that were possible and I had been living in the dark all this time. I know you can get characters' Up- b to not sweetspot by holding up.
canthandletheSpeculosity
Smash Journeyman
there's always the option to powersheild. sometimes just jumping over the projectiles with side b isn't enough. even though TL throws everything at you but the kitchen sink, WHEN he throws them is actually quite predictable. it's like a pattern. i think it goes like SH boomerang, arrow, arrow cancel(arrow as they hit the ground) , then immediately nair. and and sometimes they replace the nair with zair. always know that they arrow as soon as they hit the ground. when they zair and u shield you can easily just counter with a dash attack before they hit the ground.
same goes for rob in terms of projectiles. online powershielding is harder due to button delay, so I recommend practicing offline. BF is one of zss' best stages because it allows her to use her aerials more. once rob is in the air he's basically zss' ***** (just watch out for the nair and punish air dodges). dont let the the rob take control by pressuring you. you should be the one pressuring him. .
I dont believe it's possible to do the side b in recovery range and not sweetspot it. although I havent tested it if you were to turn on b-sticking. it might be possible then. if anyone wants to test that feel free to do so.
And you eliminate sweetspoting by holding down not up.
Cia
das kwl
Zss >>>>>> G&w, 60-40.
Cia
das kwl
really?? 
TheRockSays
Smash Journeyman
cba use the platforms with dsmash works wonders on BF against big or tall people.Is True its very hard to power shield online,my cousin owns me hard body online but offline were even
Adapt
Smash Lord
You'll find most of out GaW thoughts here: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=5807128#post5807128
jibbyjaont
Smash Journeyman
Does airdodging when getting launched off the stage actually help you survive?
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
Only in the case where a character's fastest aerial is slower than their air-dodge. ZSS uses fast-fall uair then down-b to recover.
NickRiddle
#negativeNick
ZSS is the new Link.
Thats how it should be.
also, i get a bit mad on my cheapness w/ my flip jump. =/
hdrevolution123
Smash Ace
and now I know how to change to ZSS during a match via the taunt method. Thanks for the link to the Dojo article
Taken from my Link guide, the concept still applies though.
However, what Nicholas.Riddle said is true too, if the aerials are too laggy/slow, sometimes airdodging is the better option. An example would be Snake.
^Heck yeah!