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The idea is, when you hit someone's shield, they enter shieldstun, where they can't act. Normally, seeing as you're hitting their shield, there's some lag on whatever move you're using to create the stun. The stun and lag are usually of similar lengths, meaning no one benefits, but when someone does, as in, the attacker has 3 frames where he can do something before the shielder can, those frames are referred to as "frames of advantage".
I think the logic is that the height is such that Falco can't actually hit you without full-hopping or double jumping. So, while it's not a game-changer, it reduces the 'zone' in which you can get flurried by Falco's SHFFLs and SH double-lasers.
Especially advice on how to specifically deal with a campy/safe falco..
That probably means you're trying to jump out of your shield before the shield-stun is over (so yes, in answer to your question). I assume you were talking about fc bair, because the next button input would be down with the control-stick if you tried to do that. If you were trying to jump while still in stun but pressing down right after stun ended, that would explain why you keep spot-dodging. That same thing happens to me a lot when I roll instead of wding oos. I wish I had some advice on practicing the timing, but I am frustrated by the same thing.
You'd spotdodge fc bair oos because of the shield stun. Ideally, fc bair's done like so: Jump, down, bair, land. If you don't time it around the shield stun, then it might not recognize the first input, being jump. Then, the next part, down, would cause the sidestep. It's mostly a matter of experience. The more times you try it, the better you'll be at it, but knowing what you're doing is important too.@ Irish Mafia, thanks for the input. Yeah a lot of the makes sense, I just haven't practiced the oos options well enough yet. Like, when I try to bair oos from getting my shield hit, i often spot-dodge instead; does that mean I'm trying to jump out to early? Also, when is it safe/what things should i look for when trying to nair oos?
Finally yeah, around a minute into game 3 i just sorta gave up mentally; does anyone else have this problem? Like you think to yourself "oh i'm gonna lose, whatever, it was expected anyways", and how can you put things in perspective to get out of that mindset?
Also, any more input on the vids would be much appreciated!
Since we wanted to understand the English language!
