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The Brawlplusery - Brawl+ Codeset - Updated 3rd April
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Sukai
Smash Champion
By sensitive, I mean that it's a really touchy area to look into for buffs, changes would have to be precise as to not break him, I can just generally see alot of deadly combos being done and low percent kills.
I say his air game should do well to compensate.
XSilvenX
Smash Lord
I would do it but I'm too lazy at the moment, not to mention I have class in a few hours. If nobody has done it by the time I get back from work tonight (around 11pm est) just PM me or something I'll make the .gct for you.
Anyway so far I've seen.
Ness
-Stronger upsmash
-More useful PK fire
WHY?
Everything else about Ness is pretty ok. Ness's design makes him a bad character period..not much you can do about it really. Without DJC and an instant dair he will never be as good as his Smash 64 counterpart so you can pretty much give up on Ness being any good. I have managed to pull out a few amazing combos with him though...you guys will see in the NYC combo vid I'll be releasing later on. But at least with a stronger upsmash and better PK fire his ground game can be a little better and he'd have another KO option.
and..
Luigi
-Make dthrow to upb less "guaranteed"
WHY?
Do I really have to explain this? That move is already broken..jab to upb in regular Brawl was annoying enough..now this
I'm heavily in favor of both character's suggestions keep up the good work people, in no time we should have this as close to balanced as possible.
I have another suggestion but I'm not sure if it's necessary. It most likely isn't but I was using Jigglypuff's sing on a lvl 1 (yes lvl 1) cpu and they literally got out in .2 seconds. The move is absolutely useless. My suggestion is to...no, not make them sleep longer..but make the move duration less so that Jiggly can get out of sing animation for a potential rest or whatever. I dunno I guess she has other reliable ways to land rest but I just thought it would be awesome for Jiggs to have a useful sing attack finally. And if you get put to sleep you kinda deserve the eventual rest anyway.
/My .02 cents
Offline has the handicap=buffer code while online does not. You can get the 4.1 beta in IRC chat where texture hacks are on (or at least were in the last beta I played).
Please tell the people in charge of the download site to remove the buffer modifier code from the PAL version. I had the patience to search why Brawl was freezing up every time I selected a stage, had to find the code manager and replace the code, but I'm sure many of us europeans wouldn't, and rightfully so. Putting it up for download when you haven't even tested it defies common sense.
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ehm the new PAL set isn't avalible for download as far as I know and the set in the OP I put a clear notice that it was not working properly.
kupo15
Smash Hero
I agree with the luigi dthrow to up b but ness is pretty beast. I would like to see DJC come back though.I would do it but I'm too lazy at the moment, not to mention I have class in a few hours. If nobody has done it by the time I get back from work tonight (around 11pm est) just PM me or something I'll make the .gct for you.
Anyway so far I've seen.
Ness
-Stronger upsmash
-More useful PK fire
WHY?
Everything else about Ness is pretty ok. Ness's design makes him a bad character period..not much you can do about it really. Without DJC and an instant dair he will never be as good as his Smash 64 counterpart so you can pretty much give up on Ness being any good. I have managed to pull out a few amazing combos with him though...you guys will see in the NYC combo vid I'll be releasing later on. But at least with a stronger upsmash and better PK fire his ground game can be a little better and he'd have another KO option.
and..
Luigi
-Make dthrow to upb less "guaranteed"
WHY?
Do I really have to explain this? That move is already broken..jab to upb in regular Brawl was annoying enough..now this
I'm heavily in favor of both character's suggestions keep up the good work people, in no time we should have this as close to balanced as possible.
I have another suggestion but I'm not sure if it's necessary. It most likely isn't but I was using Jigglypuff's sing on a lvl 1 (yes lvl 1) cpu and they literally got out in .2 seconds. The move is absolutely useless. My suggestion is to...no, not make them sleep longer..but make the move duration less so that Jiggly can get out of sing animation for a potential rest or whatever. I dunno I guess she has other reliable ways to land rest but I just thought it would be awesome for Jiggs to have a useful sing attack finally. And if you get put to sleep you kinda deserve the eventual rest anyway.
/My .02 cents
I would also like to add changes to the dtilt because at higher percents, it combos into the up b
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
Actually...FFDT would have absolutely no effect on these kinds of combos (assuming they're true combos) because you can't fast fall during hitstun.
We should add it anyway though.
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
New to brawl+ and I was wondering what the difference is between the Offline and Online GCT? Since they both have the same file name I'm assuming I should know something or something...
Offline = Default buffer @ 2 frames with the handicap buffer system
Online = Default buffer @ 10 frames with No handicap buffer system.
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
So the online one retains Brawl's old buffer system? I almost wanna switch to that just cause I'm still having trouble adjusting, been so long since melee.
IC3R
Smash Lord
Brawl+: it's like Brawl without the Barlw 
That should get more people to play
That should get more people to play
Roxas215
Smash Lord
Yea dthrow to up b is completely broken. Please fix this!
IC3R
Smash Lord
Man, I can't wait until they figure out how to edit throws; so much can be done
kupo15
Smash Hero
This.Man, I can't wait until they figure out how to edit throws; so much can be done
This game is missing this....BIG time!!
Sukai
Smash Champion
Do I smell Melee Fox's down throw gimp?
No. You dont. Get out.
I don't, but I do smell proper fixes to issues like Pikachu's CG. As it is, the current fix is crude and I would like something that doesn't hinder the full potential of the throw at the same time.
kupo15
Smash Hero
I would love for it to act like melee fox's throw. However, unless we remove the invisible floor, you can't spike with it.
I see a lot of uthrow changes. Too much kb
Sukai
Smash Champion
Killjoys, the whole lot of you.
It can happen, plus it won't break Fox. Unless his shine goes back being 1 frame hit and jump cancel-able, Fox would be perfectly balanced with his predecessor's down throw.
Plus Fox+ is a ground fighter through and through, only with the occasional short hop aerials, he doesn't spend that much time in the air.
Shanus' latest 4.1 beta set is wicked.
Ike's down air is pretty broken however.
So is Link's down tilt.
And Wolf stole Melee Falco's shine.
It can happen, plus it won't break Fox. Unless his shine goes back being 1 frame hit and jump cancel-able, Fox would be perfectly balanced with his predecessor's down throw.
Plus Fox+ is a ground fighter through and through, only with the occasional short hop aerials, he doesn't spend that much time in the air.
Shanus' latest 4.1 beta set is wicked.
Ike's down air is pretty broken however.
So is Link's down tilt.
And Wolf stole Melee Falco's shine.
kupo15
Smash Hero
Basically. I agree with this statement
It's not that I don't like the idea, I just feel like he is fine enough as he is.
I know it wouldn't break him in anyway, but I just feel like he doesn't need it by any means.
I know it wouldn't break him in anyway, but I just feel like he doesn't need it by any means.
Sukai
Smash Champion
Well, yeah it's not high on the list of throws that need to be changed, but--
We have an unlimited line "limit", why?
In a nutshell, "Why not?"
We have an unlimited line "limit", why?
In a nutshell, "Why not?"
kupo15
Smash Hero
I personally don't like how the dthrow works anyway. I'd rather it set up for ground things instead of a comboed usmash.
Sukai
Smash Champion
This.
Fox+'s throws are basically useless, there is little point other than variety and they all throw his opponent in the air--out of his element. It's like putting your opponent in a safe position.
IC3R
Smash Lord
No no no..........
PLEASE no........the Shine is bad enough...
I'd be fine it it doesn't have the Meteor property, but simply places the foe on the ground. Just make it techable too :D
We definitely need to fix broken stuff like Luigi's D-Throw -> Shoryuken combo, and maybe give Peach a killer F-Throw.
We have a long list of what we can do, but we should first focus on what we should do...
Sukai
Smash Champion
The shine isn't that bad.
It certainly has nothing on a mouthful of Falcon (knee).
It certainly has nothing on a mouthful of Falcon (knee).
kupo15
Smash Hero
Just by making it a meteor won't make it a meteor. We still have the problem with the invisible floor. All I really care about is making the throw techable
IC3R
Smash Lord
Nothing like Knee gimping :D
So how would resurrecting Melee Fox's D-Throw work? Just set the Base Knockback and the Knockback Growth to 0? Add a teching property and BAM!!! Tech it and be safe; miss it and get a face full of D/U-Smash
kupo15
Smash Hero
Figure out how gaw's throw works and copy paste. There is a launch angle that just puts you on the groundNothing like Knee gimping :D
So how would resurrecting Melee Fox's D-Throw work? Just set the Base Knockback and the Knockback Growth to 0? Add a teching property and BAM!!! Tech it and be safe; miss it and get a face full of D/U-Smash
goodoldganon
Smash Champion
Fox is amazing, he doesn't need or even deserve it. Let's wait for a throw modifier before we argue anyway.
Oh, please. I clearly meant the one available here: http://almas.sitesled.com/index.htm
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Hella.
Could you decrease the lag of ivysaurs fair? It's really hard to combo with, and it feels horrible to spam nair (lolnairlock) too much.
Also if you guys can let use waveshine with wolf that would be cool too .-.
EDIT:
To rival Luigi's cheap dthrow > upB combo, there's a Zelda dthrow > bair too..
Also if you guys can let use waveshine with wolf that would be cool too .-.
EDIT:
To rival Luigi's cheap dthrow > upB combo, there's a Zelda dthrow > bair too..
Skip2MaLoo
Smash Lord
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You can DI her dthrow. Ivysaur's pretty good enough, just use the other pokemon.
Magus420
Smash Master
You can DI Luigi's d-throw too.
StarcraftLedZeppelin
Smash Cadet
Why was custom stages taken away from 4.1?????
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