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The Botanical Gardens of the Mushroom Kingdom

Are you awesome?

  • Well DUH!

    Votes: 160 30.8%
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Supreme Dirt

King of the Railway
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I love when people claim kill power as a reason for bad MUs.

Hey Ganondorf FSmash kills you at like 70. Obviously he's a -1.
 

Zwarm

Smash Hero
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I love when people claim kill power as a reason for bad MUs.

Hey Ganondorf FSmash kills you at like 70. Obviously he's a -1.
Except Ganondorf's fsmash is slow and doesn't combo out of dair at certain percents. Besides that, Fox can still outcamp Peach, he's faster than her, and can keep up with her damage racking abilities. I'm sure there's more, but I've only played a few Foxes with Peach. I prefer to use ROB for Fox.
 

Supreme Dirt

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I've only seen the MU once and the fox was absolutely *****, and considering said Fox is #1 on our PR...

Though to be fair he was pretty rusty with his Fox.
 

Supreme Dirt

King of the Railway
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Yeah fair enough. But we'll see at the next tourney how it goes down. Apparently he's actually been working on his Fox since our region banned MK.
 

Nordal

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WTF Peach beats Fox, not the other way around.

I don't agree with some other match-up ratios as well but this one stands out. Fox beating Peach yeaaah no.


:052:


I like to say that the match up is even. But yea, he does not win. Played nakatt fox in tourny and 2 stocked it. I ended up losing to his meta after. Fox is the easiest space animal to approach. if he hits you with a dair, you can SDI away. He tried this on me to an upsmash. I SDI away and was able to PS the upsmash each time. If he does it while you in the air, it is even easier.

If Fox is camping me I just go near him and then move a way a lil, I zone in and out. To confuse him. I don't always go to attack him. And I sometimes do this with a turnip in hand. He might be waiting for me to attack and shield. He shield just gets smaller. And thats what I want. So when I pressure him, he is getting shield poked and tossed around. Even when I have high damage, I don't rush fox. I let him shoot. He has to come to be and get through my wall. In this case I can evade and put the pressure on him or get some hits. or pressure him and get away, saving my stock. I was at 223 when I played him in tourny. I did not let him kill me no matter how many lasers shot. I just went in a lil to scare him and force him to stop since he thought I would attack him. Then move back a lil and kept a certain distance. Incase he would wanna F-B and I can react/punish it.


I've only seen the MU once and the fox was absolutely *****, and considering said Fox is #1 on our PR...

Though to be fair he was pretty rusty with his Fox.


Except Ganondorf's fsmash is slow and doesn't combo out of dair at certain percents. Besides that, Fox can still outcamp Peach, he's faster than her, and can keep up with her damage racking abilities. I'm sure there's more, but I've only played a few Foxes with Peach. I prefer to use ROB for Fox.
Using ROB for Fox....

 

Zwarm

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Rofl. What's wrong with using ROB for Fox instead of Peach? Silly up tilt combos into itself and does so much damage, and killing Fox offstage is easier with ROB. He outranges Fox, and it's not like I need to camp using stuff he can reflect. I actually approach with ROB.
 

Dark.Pch

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I beaten Nakats fox in tourny. People tend to get too reckless when being camped. You dont have too. Just take it easy. its the same way with dealing with a campy Fox in melee. This is why I lose to snake. He camps me, and I just wanna go in to stop him. And I get hit by alot of stuff.

People need to know how to actually get inside a camper. I am sure you have see match ups where people at a disadvantage in match up are getting camped hard. And yet they don't just run in to stop them. You see them taking their time which may seem stupid to alot of people. I see atomsk do **** like this with DDD all the time. And M2k when he is getting camped hard. People let camping get to them hard.

People don't realize that camping actually has a weakness. And people fail to abuse it alot.
 

Nordal

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I don't know the fox vs ROB matchup, but Trevonte tells me its 80:20 fox's favor. I can ask him to give specifics when I get home later today.

I beaten Nakats fox in tourny. People tend to get too reckless when being camped. You dont have too. Just take it easy. its the same way with dealing with a campy Fox in melee. This is why I lose to snake. He camps me, and I just wanna go in to stop him. And I get hit by alot of stuff.

People need to know how to actually get inside a camper. I am sure you have see match ups where people at a disadvantage in match up are getting camped hard. And yet they don't just run in to stop them. You see them taking their time which may seem stupid to alot of people. I see atomsk do **** like this with DDD all the time. And M2k when he is getting camped hard. People let camping get to them hard.
 

Razmakazi

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dark pch is right though. we just have be careful but we can get in on fox because of our the speed of our moves, our priority, range, and just b/c lasers don't actually have knockback. and if we get fox to shield that's great coz his shield is terrible.
 

Two-Ell

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He was just saying, personally, he uses his ROB for this MU since he's feels he can't provide complete info to back up to back up his thoughts. Most people here know he uses ROB and Peach lol. He wasn't trying to steer the convo away from Peach.

:rosalina:
 

Silly Kyle

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Peach vs. Fox isn't that bad lol. I'd say it's pretty even. The only good Fox I've played though was Trevonte, and that was friendlies at Genesis 2
 

Meru.

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*Sees Peach players thinking they beat Fox / Wolf *
*Shakes head...*
Coincidentally you play Fox and Wolf!

*Sees Peach players thinking they are even with Diddy*
*... and leaves thread*
*Sees one of the best European Diddies (coincidentally from the same country) beat the best European Peach a 100 years ago*
"THIS MATCH-UP IS NOW OFFICIALLY +20"

You know I've got nothing against you my dear Gheb, I'm just showing we are very equally biased <3.

I know you dislike Dark Pch and all and that's not my business, but now you're hating for... no reason at all.


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Zwarm

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He was just saying, personally, he uses his ROB for this MU since he's feels he can't provide complete info to back up to back up his thoughts. Most people here know he uses ROB and Peach lol. He wasn't trying to steer the convo away from Peach.

:rosalina:
Thank you, lol. I'll probably try Peach again next time I play a Fox, which isn't very often, but I was just saying I prefer using ROB, because I'm more comfortable with him against characters that kill quickly, like Snake, Fox, etc.

Also, I didn't know people payed enough attention to me around here to know I use both ROB and Peach. :awesome:
 

mountain_tiger

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Match-ups are no fun anyway. We should do something more constructive - like ranking the mane cast of MLP. :)

Pinkie Pie > Rainbow Dash > Fluttershy > Applejack > Twilight Sparkle > Rarity

You know it's true.
 

Z'zgashi

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At least he didnt get 0 to deathed the first stock. He snuck dat 3% in there at the end.
 

Dark.Pch

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http://tinychat.com/menounderwater

It's time to D-D-D-D-D-DDDD DUEL

Calling all Dark.*****es to come suck my deckkkk
Heh, heh heh heh heh-heh

I wish this place did not get so dull yesterday. I would have kept checking this thread out and saw this post.

KB/Nicole. I wanna give you 2 or atleast talk to you guys aboutsome Peach stuff and match ups. I would do it here but you know what happens around this place when it happens. And I don't feel like dealing with people trying to be funny.

KB I know you have aim, so get on it when you can. I can send you some stuff. maybe to the BBR

Nicole, we might have to stick to PM. But I am not gonna VS any of you on this.
 

KageMurphy

Smash Master
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Dear Peaches,

Firstly, <3.

How are you? I am doing well. I'm off being an adult, being olde, working and all that. It's fun. I am a Home Health Nurse in DC, doing visits for folks not well enough to live completely alone, but not so bad that they need more care (nursing home), so they have a home health aide. I visit once a month, perform my nursing assessment, supervise the aid, and do lots of health teaching. I've found that school pays off, and my 5 years of Spanish have actually come back to help me, as a large portion (half?) of my clients are Spanish-speakers, and really appreciate the chance to talk and learn about their health, and what can be done to better their individual situation. Yeah, so I'm pretty sure I take care of the majority of the agency's Spanish-speaking clientele, how awesome a responsibility is that? (And people talk about me and say nice things about me to other people, and I find out through the grapevine, extra awesome!)

My "transition" stuff is going great. :) I would like to thank my Peaches for giving me emotional support when I used the women's bathroom for the first time at ####. This is really special, because it helps mark a pivotal point in my life where I did what I thought was right, doing what I felt I should do, and is included on my letter that I received from my therapist (everyone who wanted to go on Hormone Replacement Therapy until just recently required therapy.) This letter helps me obtain a court order to change my name and gender marker on all of my papers and all in all make my life easier (not that it's hard or that I've encountered anything funny.) Y'all helped me with that, so thank you. :)

I've since finished therapy (result: I'm completely sane and have the support of licensed staff to live how I want to), been on hormone replacement therapy for +5 months (best decision I've ever made in my entire life), and have been working in my profession (registered nurse) as a woman, with no issues and no questions, nothing less than kindness and support, since July. I also had my first laser hair removal session on the first of this month (one of many), which was painful, yet gratifying at the same time. My life is crazy and wonderful.

How are you? I hope you're doing well. :)

Love,

White-Peach / Nicholas / Nichole

*****

P.S.: I'm not namestealing Nicole, I'm just changing over my name, and keeping my H. I like it.

P.P.S.: I'm getting fat. (In all the right places, yay!)
Yo

What the ****?!

:017:
 
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