The Botanical Gardens of the Mushroom Kingdom

[ToferTheHuman]

I am pretty sure in the end, Yoshi is still a bad character.
So it doesn't matter who is the best, they're all terrible.

 

[Conviction]

It's +1 Peach and Delta is the best Yoshi.

Does it really matter?

Point is, Illmatic wins more 85% of the people in this forum dream about.

/carry on

 

[Peachkid]

I'm going to visit everyone. And everyone is gonna love it >:I

I will hold all your chancey stuff hostage Air :D

 

[Airgemini]

If you dare, I will take away all your bread and cheese.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

If you dare, I will take away all your bread and cheese.

then what will he eat?

i'd visit people, but i have no money.

you could visit me, but theres nothing much to do here lol

 

[Z'zgashi]

I would visit people but I also dont have money.

You could visit me tho, we supposedly have the 'greatest snow on earth'.

 

[Dark.Pch]

If you dare, I will take away all your bread and cheese.

then what will he eat?

i'd visit people, but i have no money.

you could visit me, but theres nothing much to do here lol

And you people wonder why I don't pay child support.

 

[Two-Ell]

can your sig use any more daisy-peach Dark? lol

I see you have that ABA stamp that Twilit-Arawen/JayPhenrix made.

 

[Dark.Pch]

Yes, it could use more. daisy-peach is awsome.

 

[JigglyZelda003]

And you people wonder why I don't pay child support.

maybe if dark paid child support, us not as fortunate peaches could travel around.

 

[Peachkid]

If you dare, I will take away all your bread and cheese.

K, I'll just eat something else then. Like Lobster.... Lobster is pretty freaking Delicious

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I have never had lobster and I recall why.

It is too expensive.

 

[Peachkid]

I could never afford to eat lobster myself. Thank goodness for wealthy parents x3x

 

[Neon!]

must.. resist.. urge to main peach.
Illmatic has rubbed off on me to much.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I try to main peach constantly, then I have a really hard time adjusting.

 

[¿Qué?]

If you wanna win tourneys, just main Ike.

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

If you wanna win tourneys, just main Ike.

Basically lol its what's happening in Florida. However he doesn't like playing me.... I won the last MM we played. Turnips are so <3 you know what..... I'm gonna practice em today. If only I could combine myself, excel, plus Meno's bstick ability without bstick, and illmatics move string knowledge ..... <3

 

[z00ted]

Nicole is getting good.

I'm scared.

 

[Queen B. Kyon]

Nicole is getting good.

I'm scared.

I always thought she was good
I finally have time and money for tournaments and we have none lol.

 

[z00ted]

No, I mean she's getting too good.

I'm excited.
Peach is starting to seem actually viable with Metaknight gone.

 

[Dark.Pch]

maybe if dark paid child support, us not as fortunate peaches could travel around.

Maybe if you damm kids stop pissing me off, then maybe I not have that phobia of paying it. I might make it your Xmas presents............maybe.

 

[Ripple]

Nicole could only slay mks though

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Nicole don't give a **** if MK is gone, she slays everything.

 

[Dark.Pch]

Nicole could only slay mks though

She is a good player. Only thing she lacks is top level play with other characters dude to her region. And match up experience. She is on the EC now and will be playing with NY/NJ alot. She will get better. She plays meta alot, so of course she be good at it. Thus experience.

 

[Neon!]

As a (former?) DK main the already heavy surge of ddd and diddy mains in my area is really quite frustrating. Peach is the opposite of dk in every way and is way more fun to play.

 

[z00ted]

Main her then, foo.

 

[Nicole]

She is a good player. Only thing she lacks is top level play with other characters dude to her region. And match up experience. She is on the EC now and will be playing with NY/NJ alot. She will get better. She plays meta alot, so of course she be good at it. Thus experience.

ya pretty much this. i'm not that good yet but i'm excited to play with everyone up here and learn the right way to play matchups, cause i'm actually pretty slow to learn them..takes me alot of practice. sometime kinda soon i'll probably take a tirp to vinnie's area and enter the hyperbolic time chamber lol.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Peach is hella viable with MK gone. She should be at least like, high tier now. The only thing standing in her way is like... i dunno... Snake? And thats not even that bad, its completely doable.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Lucario and Marth say hi.

 

[Z'zgashi]

Lucario got pub stomped by D3 and Marth is too overrated to give a damn.

 

[z00ted]

Lucario, Marth, and Falco are pretty difficult at top top level - but other then that we're set.

All of Peach's matchups are winnable with MK banned with EXTENSIVE matchup knowledge.
And by that, I mean.. you better know it like you play a top or high level main of that character every day.

I'm pretty sure I have the Pikachu, Toon Link, and Snake matchups on lock. I've learned so much from Razer, I just gotta become a better player to beat him. I don't think I'll consistently lose to any other Snake, though.

 

[ToferTheHuman]

Lucario got pub stomped by D3 and Marth is too overrated to give a damn.

Pretty sure we're talking about PEACH.

 

[z00ted]

lmao, I was thinking the same thing

 

[Z'zgashi]

Regardless, Peach only having 3 disadvantagous match ups now is really good. Snake and Diddy each have at least that many, and look at their position in the tier list.

 

[mountain_tiger]

Lol, I remember when Dark Pch. suggested that Snake vs Peach was an even match-up. Good times.

Is D3 vs Peach still considered even?

 

[ToferTheHuman]

I still think you're thinking too highly of her.
Comparing her to Diddy and Snake because she has 3 hard match ups is stupid.

 

[z00ted]

Nah, it's in D3's favor.

Peach definitely has more then 3 disadvantaged matchups, but they aren't DRASTIC.

Snake, Falco, Marth, Lucario, Fox, D3

 

[Z'zgashi]

I like how tofer is blowing everything I say out of proportion.

I didnt LITERALLY mean she only has 3 bad MUS, I was just pointing out that the best characters also have a handful of difficult match ups, so just because Peach has some herself isnt a huge slap to the face putting a giant invalid sticker or her.

 

[z00ted]

Here's what I currently think of Peach.

Illmatic's Matchup Chart


-3:
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0:
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[Vinylic.]

And THAT'S WHY FLUTTERSHY IS BETTER THAN YOU BECAUSE SHE'S WEAK AND HELPLESS.

As a kirby main, I also have to deal with the MUs as well.