Scar
#HarveyDent
nes noob $50 mm
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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
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iamthemicrowave
Smash Master
dude please come to smym and own ppl, this mm needs to be recorded also, for the young falcons to study
edit: even tho everyone says nes noob has a "boring" falcon because all he does is run away :D...but how can falcon be boring?
NES n00b
Smash Master
I already accepted.........maybe you didn't see that. Where at smym 10? Hopefully it doesn't take a whole three days to find you and an open tv. >_>
JBM falcon08
Smash Master
nes noob is actually really good at melee 
NES n00b
Smash Master
Obviously by how I play.....
GooeyBanana
Smash Lord
Ahhh my gawd...I've noticed a major problem with my Falcon today. Most of the time when I connect with an aerial such as bair, fair, or dair, I do not fast fall it. When the eff am I supposed to fast fall? After the hit connects? It seems that I press down right as the hit connects such as the knee sweet spotting and then I just fail at fast falling it. Ugh, this is probably the dumbest question I've asked yet but god it makes my Falcon seem soooo slow!
DrewB008
Smash Lord
you wanna fastfall most things before they hit
think of it as making the hit land as close to the time when you hit the ground as possible
think of it as making the hit land as close to the time when you hit the ground as possible
TresChikon
Smash Lord
It's before.
However, it all depends when and how you want to hit them and what move you want to combo into next, but you usually want to fast fall ASAP to ready for the next move.The fastfall is usually between the execution of the aerial and when it hits.
Jump ---> Fastfall ---> Aerial (normally a faster move like U-air since you have already fast fell) ---> Hitlag ---> L-Cancel
Normally this method is used to pull out a surprise attack to mix up empty shorthops, for example a Marth could fast fall a SH and at the last moment throw out a fair to throw off the opponent, you could do the same with u air since its so fast.
Jump ---> Aerial (This one you can use stomp, nair, knee because it allows you to stay in the air longer to either start up the knee or stomp or use the full duration of nair. Bair or U-air is perfectly fine as well) ---> Fastfall (with slower aerials you should delay the fast fall a bit, so you dont end up with an empty knee or stomp, if you only prefer to use only the first hit of the nair, you can fast fall earlier) ---> Hitlag ---> L-cancel
This is a more standard procedure of shffling. I suggest you practice shffling each one of Falcon's aerials to understand the timing. You don't need a target unless you're trying to get down the timing of L-Cancels as well, so just hitting the air is fine.
If you wish to fast fall Falcon's slower... well pretty much anyone's aerials earlier, practice executing attacks immediately after you leave the ground, that way you can practically instantaenously( well as soon as the game lets you) fast fall even Falcon's slower aerials.
But i suppose you could FF after the hitlag, but the only situation i see it in is a Fullhop --> U-air --> FF...etc.
i'm Not really sure?
But hey, it's not a dumb question, there's a lot of stuff I dunno squat about, but that's why we're here as a community to help each other
Afro_Chris
Smash Ace
hey can u guys give me some help on the match up, mainly wat works and dont, and how to combo pika
falcon vs pikachu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDuQ61eD6K4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3a3xRwXqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0UauKYrg8
i always thot the match up was in falcons favour but i've never faced a pikachu before so its my first time at the match up, any help would be good seeing how toronto has no pikachu mains and this pika main was visting from the west,
this is my only time ever facing a pika main
falcon vs pikachu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDuQ61eD6K4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pw3a3xRwXqY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM0UauKYrg8
i always thot the match up was in falcons favour but i've never faced a pikachu before so its my first time at the match up, any help would be good seeing how toronto has no pikachu mains and this pika main was visting from the west,
this is my only time ever facing a pika main
Nes Noob is nasty. Not only did he beat Scar, but Hax$$$ as well. I knew he was telling the truth too, because Hax was johning about it. Also, Darkrain is superior to SS. I played them both a TON at genesis. SS is all grabs. He's mainly good against fastfallers. Dark has WAY more experience than him.
The question has finally been answered.
The question has finally been answered.
iamthemicrowave
Smash Master
rofl we have known that answer for a long time...
ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
shffl Nair/Upair is probably the most common aerial to fastfall after the hitlag.
PolMex23
Smash Champion
My mother ****ing Nes noob vs scar 50$MM???
THINGS MIGHT GET...SERIOUS!!!!
THINGS MIGHT GET...SERIOUS!!!!
Scar
#HarveyDent
Yes I still hate Jigglypuff, probably now more than ever and I'm gonna kill Darc at least once per match every time we team.
My response to everything else on this page can be summed up by "I am the best Captain Falcon in the world."
My response to everything else on this page can be summed up by "I am the best Captain Falcon in the world."
Scar
#HarveyDent
outdated polls ftw
mango you should have falcon dittod me in tourney to settle it
also you would have given me 3rd place
mango you should have falcon dittod me in tourney to settle it
also you would have given me 3rd place
Scar
#HarveyDent
idk we gave him the business in teams can't wait to see the vids
Roneblaster
Smash Hero
SS is more flashy than darkrain, hes not as good though.
pockyD
Smash Legend
ss is pretty much by far the flashiest falcon main
soap
Smash Hero
big D is the flashiest
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
soap what the hell is going on in your avatar
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
oh good
i thought it was something else because of where pika's mouth is positioned
i thought it was something else because of where pika's mouth is positioned
DrewB008
Smash Lord
one time i played so flashy that scar thought i beat him when i didnt
not even a joke
not even a joke
NES n00b
Smash Master
So I am the bizzarro SS. Not flashy at all and boring.
Anyway questions time that I have had for a while but I thought I would find counters to them.....but I really haven't after all this time. >_>
Falco double lasering from the ledge...how do you punish it? Like invincibility frames and lasers at falcon height seem to make it impossible to punish. I have tried many things but either they have to mess up or I have to do something stupidly risky so counters for this?
Jigglypuff crouching in general but also specifically when next to you when you are in shield. What are the safest ways to get around this/pressure them from doing it as much?
Falco and Fox's shorthop bairs with no fastfall seem to have such stupid priority, speed, and no lag that I really don't know what to do. Tried nairing at the tip. Tried grabbing after it but no lag really since it is autocancelled. So what do I do about this while dashing or after getting hit by it (so I am not dashing) but I know he is going to do it again?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Wait Fox can SH autocancel Bair?
When did this happen and why wasn't I informed?
When did this happen and why wasn't I informed?
ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
You can upair them after the 1st laser if your precise, but not if they keep both low. you can also fulljump bair over them but you have to predict when they will jump to have it timed correctly. You can do it semi decently though since you know they are going to jump the second they have invinc frames. You can also run past and bair the other way if you think it will kill or lead to a grab, but that is risky if they don't laser.
If they don't fastfall I'm pretty sure you can upair OOS and hit them, I can hit a standing Fox with a rising sh upair and I'm pretty sure this works. You can also just wavedash OoS. Not enough Falcons wavedash OoS against Falco/Fox, just wavedash after the shine and nair/jab.
And KirbyKaze, it's not a shffl bair, it's a non-fastfalled sh bair.
GooeyBanana
Smash Lord
Is Marth a good partner for Falcon in doubles? Rather frustrating when I get hit by fsmash ;_; I like utilt to knee, however 
Actually, could some of yallz smart peepz list off some good Falcon partners?
Actually, could some of yallz smart peepz list off some good Falcon partners?
onlymaskde
Smash Lord
Fox, Puff, and Peach are probably bestIs Marth a good partner for Falcon in doubles? Rather frustrating when I get hit by fsmash ;_; I like utilt to knee, however
MdrnDayMercutio
Smash Champion
Scar, serious question.
You and Darc, honestly, Sexiest Team At Genesis or what?
You and Darc, honestly, Sexiest Team At Genesis or what?
N64
Smash Champion
pika falcon is a hot team imo.
pika just uairs stuff to pop em in the air and falcon starts running around kneeing. Pika can also save falcon with jolts and rising uairs off the edge.
pika just uairs stuff to pop em in the air and falcon starts running around kneeing. Pika can also save falcon with jolts and rising uairs off the edge.
ArcNatural
Banned ( ∫x, δx Points)
Pretty much anyone in top/high tier works well because Falcon is a wrecking ball in teams. Just let Marth camp and try to force one on ones and protect you from getting gimped while you just try to randomly wreck stuff.Is Marth a good partner for Falcon in doubles? Rather frustrating when I get hit by fsmash ;_; I like utilt to knee, however
As for getting hit it's all about knowing your partner so you learn to shield/avoid when you feel he is going to go for that stuff.
I'd probably rank it something like
1. Sheik
2. Marth
3. Fox
4. Jiggs
5. Peach