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Scar talks Lean Melee [2012YotF]
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Cia
das kwl
Scar - let's team for something. i'll use puff, and peach. and we'll ****. because i rest everything. and you can fair stuff.
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Divinokage
Smash Legend
The results say otherwise. Falcon/Jiggs is probably the best team with Falcon. Remember King/Isai? =P
papermarkis
Smash Lord
I'd say Jiggs is pretty much the best partner for anyone.
ipitydatfu
Smash Master
any advice against dr marios?
TresChikon
Smash Lord
Use your superior spacing powers. Out space his aerials and pills. Pick a stage with platform so his pills are less effective and he can't CG you to death. Basically out maneuver him with speed and range.
Scar
#HarveyDent
note to everyone: pills are not effective vs CF, nair beats them
if the doc is going to pill then you sit there and nair the pills, often they try to pill and approach, just nair through the pills and if it hits doc then combo him
throw combos aren't really effective because of upB, in general it's a silly low tier match which means you can't really **** him but he can't do **** to you at all
don't get hit by random dsmashes, work on your reverse upB recovery so you don't get caped, and spam nair. also running away from his approaches and bairing him is great, other than that DD grab camp
falcon wins pretty hard but if you overextend yourself you'll get *****.
if the doc is going to pill then you sit there and nair the pills, often they try to pill and approach, just nair through the pills and if it hits doc then combo him
throw combos aren't really effective because of upB, in general it's a silly low tier match which means you can't really **** him but he can't do **** to you at all
don't get hit by random dsmashes, work on your reverse upB recovery so you don't get caped, and spam nair. also running away from his approaches and bairing him is great, other than that DD grab camp
falcon wins pretty hard but if you overextend yourself you'll get *****.
ipitydatfu
Smash Master
aight cool thanks. if possible, reverse upB to avoid getting cape ***** right?
edit: oops over read that part ofyour post
edit: oops over read that part ofyour post
thumbswayup
Smash Master
That would be such **** if it was in a Falcon ditto and the recovering Falcon meteor canceled the dair, gets kneed, techs it, and spikes the ledge-canceling Falcon lol
Out of curiousity, what would you ban against Doc? FD comes to mind, especially against Boss who constantly zero to deaths me with chaingrabs -_-
I also have a question and I think I've asked it before. A few months back in teams with Shinku I did a moonwalk to ledge(or wall?) tech knee on the edge of FD. It was totally on accident and it was total ****. I can't seem to do it again though. I try moonwalking as close to the edge as possible, then attempt to wall tech, but it doesn't seem to work. It might be because I'm not falling far enough off the stage. I'll give it a try again tonight.
Scar
#HarveyDent
what's your question lol how did you do it?
it's one of those things, idk my guess is that it's the same mechanics as dash attacking the ledge and then walljumping from that, but there are some things in melee that you can't do consistently like pivoting on the ledge and grabbing it from a run
it's one of those things, idk my guess is that it's the same mechanics as dash attacking the ledge and then walljumping from that, but there are some things in melee that you can't do consistently like pivoting on the ledge and grabbing it from a run
thumbswayup
Smash Master
lol yeah my question was how do I do it exactly. That reminds me, I've also dashed towards the egde of Yoshi's and teched of it somehow even though it didn't look like I even fell off the stage. I do this all the time by accident, and never on purpose wtf
DrewB008
Smash Lord
nes noob sometimes good players will go above and stomp me when i do double lasers from the ledge, but ive never pulled it off against a falco. ive always thought about just rolling behind them, but never really tried it
fox's bair doesnt autocancel on the short hop i dont think, but falcos does and theres not much you can do about it beyond like full jump stomping or something ridiculous so just get out of there and make them think they have to do something else
fox's bair doesnt autocancel on the short hop i dont think, but falcos does and theres not much you can do about it beyond like full jump stomping or something ridiculous so just get out of there and make them think they have to do something else
fox's bair doesn't autocancel 
Scar should just answer the fighting autocancel bair thing, cause whenever I try that **** vs. him he trades knee with weak bair, it's so gay.
NES n00b
Smash Master
Thanks people. I guess fox's just l cancel the bair thing.
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jiggs works really well for falcon
one time i did dk & falcon w/ darkrain and it didn't work so well
marth works well too (ken + isai)
asdf im tired
Fox's bair does autocancel if it's fullhopped.
one time i did dk & falcon w/ darkrain and it didn't work so well
marth works well too (ken + isai)
asdf im tired
Fox's bair does autocancel if it's fullhopped.
Scar
#HarveyDent
ya fulljump bair is a great fox strategy (???)
idk sh autocancel bairing falcos are losers and you should just treat them like losers. yeah i try to trade w/ knee and it works, get @ me. also bigD i also started fB+cc'ing them when i'm at low %s, it works really well actually
idk sh autocancel bairing falcos are losers and you should just treat them like losers. yeah i try to trade w/ knee and it works, get @ me. also bigD i also started fB+cc'ing them when i'm at low %s, it works really well actually
Cia
das kwl
Jman makes pretty nice use of this. it's pretty annoying to get around.
lol
It is if you utilize it right, especially on platformed stages. It's like a wall of bair; very effective with the proper spacing and prediction.
DrewB008
Smash Lord
well if theyre just standing far away doing sh bairs its one thing
but when matt r is doing them on your shield and spacing them all out of grab range its another, and in those cases i recommend just getting out of there
but when matt r is doing them on your shield and spacing them all out of grab range its another, and in those cases i recommend just getting out of there
Fletch
Smash Master
I can't believe I didn't think of that, some good Falcons need to play an unlimited time match until this happens.
_marth1_
Smash Lord
yeah if falcos back airing your shield just roll...in general if falco is anywhere near me at all i roll
fox is just as annoying when they just sit there and shffl back airs...you have to fake run at them like you mean business then run away until they try to attack you
fox is just as annoying when they just sit there and shffl back airs...you have to fake run at them like you mean business then run away until they try to attack you
Uh i would assume grab.
Xzax Kasrani
Smash Master
Scar is mad beast yo have you seen IKMI AND or II
CC grab
????
Profit
????
Profit
DrewB008
Smash Lord
scar have you drunk anything from your trophy yet
The Last Dragon
Smash Apprentice
Hello Fellow Falcons, I am the 2nd Best Falcon Main in the U.K. after playing competitively for a year and a bit, but my falcon ability is slowing down. I haven't actually sat down and practiced smash coz I don't know what to practice by myself, could anyone help?
This is my current level: youtube.com/watch?v=X22lnVzlIh8&feature=channel
What is the next stage for me? Because I have to fight this homosexual fox: youtube.com/watch?v=uHL6heUlqAY&feature=channel
This is my current level: youtube.com/watch?v=X22lnVzlIh8&feature=channel
What is the next stage for me? Because I have to fight this homosexual fox: youtube.com/watch?v=uHL6heUlqAY&feature=channel
SuperMatt
Smash Champion
spacies have to DI into the stage to avoid getting drop-zoned right?
The Last Dragon
Smash Apprentice
If they DI into the stage, you drop-zone b-air them in the back!
Tomacawk
Smash Master
nah if you DI in then you get dropzoned
wtf matt how do you not know that LOL
wtf matt how do you not know that LOL
Scar: $1 MM at SMYM?
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Gotem City Vigilante
I wish I could've seen all the epic Falcon dittos at genesis lol