Sanu
Smash Champion
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I was planning on asking you tomorrow too LOL but here you are, always knowing, always vigilant... LOL thanks ryan
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PPMD's Falco Discussion Thread
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infamous522 rite thurr
unknown522
Some guy
np. If they SDI your shine when they're at 50%, then they will most likely go off the stage anyway, so apply pressure.
prog
Priest of the Temple of Syrinx
a few of the eggm/m2k friendlies from 1974 are what you are looking for.
unknown522
Some guy
haha. I remember those matches.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
1974 seems so ... arbitrary.
Melomaniacal
Smash Champion
I have major consistency issues. One day I'll be nailing everything I do, the next I'll barely be able to play. Why is this? Someone heal me.
unknown522
Some guy
technical consistency.
I need work on that as well.
I need work on that as well.
prog? say something arbitrary? why I never!
Kanelol
Smash Lord
Technical consistency isn't really a problem for me, I just have a bunch of **** I can or cannot do.
Now, seeing as most people that play Falco also have dabbled in Fox, can any dual mains give me some tips for not ****ing up all my tech skill when I switch from one to the other? The problem seems to be almost entirely going from Fox to Falco. Just because Fox's inputs are sort of... Faster. If I play Fox too long, I wind up not being able to even waveshine without extreme effort if I swap to Falco. Not legit.
Now, seeing as most people that play Falco also have dabbled in Fox, can any dual mains give me some tips for not ****ing up all my tech skill when I switch from one to the other? The problem seems to be almost entirely going from Fox to Falco. Just because Fox's inputs are sort of... Faster. If I play Fox too long, I wind up not being able to even waveshine without extreme effort if I swap to Falco. Not legit.
So as of now, I think I have almost every matchup down to the standard level cept one. Falco dittos >_>
and wth, its my favorite match but its also my weakness >_<
help plz?
btw, I just played Zhu like yesterday in falco dittos. He knows soo many shenanigans with Falco its crazy; especailly on platforms on Battlefield. He does some wierd combos i rarely see anyone else do >_. I didn't take a single game off him of my 5-7 matches.
and wth, its my favorite match but its also my weakness >_<
help plz?
btw, I just played Zhu like yesterday in falco dittos. He knows soo many shenanigans with Falco its crazy; especailly on platforms on Battlefield. He does some wierd combos i rarely see anyone else do >_. I didn't take a single game off him of my 5-7 matches.
Oro?!
Smash Hero
Come up north soon and Falco ditto me. All that Kels experience I have might rub off on you, even though Zhu kinda messed him up... >_>
FoxLisk
Smash Lord
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falco dittos:
1) get laser control
2) land a shine
3) combo and hopefully get your opponent offstage at the end.
thats all. your goal is nearly always to land a shine and then combo. other moves are used inside combos sometimes and otherwise only to trick your opponent. if he thinks you're going to do one thing and you shine instead, you landed a shine. that is your ultimate goal.
1) get laser control
2) land a shine
3) combo and hopefully get your opponent offstage at the end.
thats all. your goal is nearly always to land a shine and then combo. other moves are used inside combos sometimes and otherwise only to trick your opponent. if he thinks you're going to do one thing and you shine instead, you landed a shine. that is your ultimate goal.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
It is important to instant DJ FF the first Dair. Your normal FJ will not work, it is too slow.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1kA3GB_cg#t=37s
prog
Priest of the Temple of Syrinx
like i said, 1974.
Kanelol
Smash Lord
how do yu dair fox out of their upb without trading with the firefox?
unknown522
Some guy
do it earlier.
Even the weak hit barely ever trades.
Even the weak hit barely ever trades.
FoxLisk
Smash Lord
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thats a tough one. a friend to practice with would be great. you could ask him to hit your shield with whatever move and buffer a spot dodge a few times to get an idea of when you can act and then take it from there. hard to convince someone to spend that time hitting your shield over and over, though, in my experience.
YOSHIDO
Smash Ace
Thanks, for the jumping tips. I get caught several times by different peoples out of shield options. I see how jumping then countering can solves thoughs. Do yall have any other tips to countering out of shield options
just try it a lot in a day of friendlies. there's no legit way to practice it without someone willing to do really boring **** on your shield all day with you trying to shine them out.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Throw someone offstage like Peach, Marth, or whatever in training mode and let their Up+B hit your shield and then try to shine out immediately.
That's how I practiced some timings.
That's how I practiced some timings.
unknown522
Some guy
I can do it pretty consistently. No lie.
Little England
Smash Master
unknown522
Some guy
haha. I dunno. I just do it.
I find that you have to hit him during the halfway point of your d-air. Either that, or start the move late, so that your hurtbox overlaps with theirs.
I find that you have to hit him during the halfway point of your d-air. Either that, or start the move late, so that your hurtbox overlaps with theirs.
MikeHaggarTHAKJB
Smash Master
could someone answer this
I honestly can't even think of it without doing it 
Sion
Island of Horizon
pretty sure it depends on whether i want to shine after the fast fall or not. generally, i hold down to shine after an aerial. i'm kinda scrubby tho lol
should be personal preference imo
should be personal preference imo
I hit down twice.
i hold down
You can practise the timing if you use the c-stick to buffer a jump out of shield.
If you get the timing down just switch to your wished jump button again
PS: I once broke the shine of a Fox by jumping over my reflected SHL, then doing another SHL and shineing immediately ^_^
unknown522
Some guy
I hold down.
PB&J
Smash Hero
seems faster to me..didnt know u hit down twice pp . i hold down though
GooeyBanana
Smash Lord
Omg, I am soooo close to switching from a Falcon main to a Falco main(I should've done it wayyyyy back when I first started playing but scrubbing people with the knee was too fun) Only thing stopping me from doing this is......I FULL HOP INSTEAD OF WAVEDASH AT TIMES >_< It's almost depressing that I still do that after a year of playing this game, even if I've hardly touched Falco since then. Any uh....magical remedies to fix this ;P? I do X + R to wavedash =)
Sion
Island of Horizon
are you simply trying to wavedash or are you trying to waveshine (hitstun issues etc)?
at any rate, it sounds like you're trying to wavedash too quickly. try waiting a bit more after jumping to press R for the wavedash. also, practice usually fixes everything.
at any rate, it sounds like you're trying to wavedash too quickly. try waiting a bit more after jumping to press R for the wavedash. also, practice usually fixes everything.
Squidster
Smash Ace
Just something I noticed when practicing things with falco's lasers.
If you full hop and laser as soon as you jump, it shortens your jump by just a bit.
I found this when practicing on battlefield, where you can full hop double laser and land on the top platform. But if you laser as soon as you jump, you don't even reach the top platform. Anyone have an explanation?
If you full hop and laser as soon as you jump, it shortens your jump by just a bit.
I found this when practicing on battlefield, where you can full hop double laser and land on the top platform. But if you laser as soon as you jump, you don't even reach the top platform. Anyone have an explanation?
Niko45
Smash Master
Pause .