PPMD's Falco Discussion Thread

[bolt.]

you're from CT?? you went to no johns and I've never met you??

Lol yeah I'm from CT. I have never officially met you, but I saw you at HoG 2. I'll make sure to introduce myself at HoG 3 if you're going.

Edit: Oh and thanks for the response Dr. Peepee!

 

[Cactuar]

Playing without lasers is just one way to learn how to use lasers effectively. Less is more.

 

[Dobs1007]

Is it even possible to lose to Plank with a space animal?

<3 Plank

Nope he told me he fears spacies especially fox

 

[ChivalRuse]

He used to fear Ice Climbers, but now he said he's more confident vs them.

 

[Divinokage]

Playing without lasers is just one way to learn how to use lasers effectively. Less is more.

Next tournament I must play you, it's been too long. I will show you my improvement.

 

[condemned_soul]

i know this is random but DrPeePee didnt you used to play with Doc a while ago?

 

[trahhSTEEZY]

i think it was just straight mario lol.

 

[Bl@ckChris]

PP's mario is way too good.

way. too. good.

 

[Dark Hart]

Linguini is lurking...

learning...

to beat Falco...

 

[Dr Peepee]

i think it was just straight mario lol.

It was lol.

PP's mario is way too good.

way. too. good.

I dunno about that haha but I like him. =p

 

[condemned_soul]

then you should visit the mario boards soon lol

 

[Dr Peepee]

Haha I suppose I could do that.

Edit: I'd be cool with some Falco vs Sheik discussion. Played Tope last weekend and all I really got out of it was that Sheik's silly and I have to play gay vs her. Videos will help, but talking never hurt anyone lol.

 

[Druggedfox]

Uhh, is there anything else to know about sheik? I mean, I'd change Sheik's silly to sheik is gay... but otherwise, sounds about right

 

[Palpi]

Haha I suppose I could do that.

Edit: I'd be cool with some Falco vs Sheik discussion. Played Tope last weekend and all I really got out of it was that Sheik's silly and I have to play gay vs her. Videos will help, but talking never hurt anyone lol.

What was the set like...was it recorded? I love watching you vs tope.

 

[JPOBS]

i heard you 4 stocked him one game PP?

 

[Druggedfox]

I heard that was the match tope CP'd himself to rainbow cruise >_<

I mighta heard wrong though

 

[Dr Peepee]

LOL yeah it was recorded.

Tope CP'd RC game 3 of GFs because I decided to play gay then(even though I wasn't winning by much <.<) and gave me some nice openings and I 4 stocked him for it. He had taken an hour long nap previously(before WFs anyway but there wasn't much time in between) and was ready to go home lol. We were both kinda tired but the matches weren't too bad I don't think.

 

[KAOSTAR]

I actually randomly tried the no laser thing(after reading it here just like yesterday haha) and it forced me to combo better because when I dropped a combo I couldnt just break away and laser lol. I did alot more DD and random shorthops(when I wanted to laser but stopped myself) lol. I also shined a lil bit less.


overall, it was an improvement haha.

 

[Bamesy]

LOL

I like how everyone is dropping the lasers. It really is important. It's like a Falcon running away every time a combo ends or they miss a tech chase. Or a Luigi WDing away just because they can.

All of the little gimmiks of characters because they're safe but not ever actually beneficial.

In turn, you're forced to play more aggressively and take all opportunities and maximize them. Meaning DDs so you're offensive but still defensive, fighting close up in actual 'battle' situations instead of resetting the games at all chances.

PS: Don't listen to comdemned. All you see in the Mario boards is 20 posts of me throughout them saying "DD > Shield > WD OOS > Grab"

and not much else... >_>


Switch to Mario for Sheik...
She's just combo food

 

[Mogwai]

have people never read my thread before? I've suggested dropping lasers to learn how to play with them forever now. I mean, I'm happy people are learning to do it, but I'm just kinda sad that something that's been suggested in a stickied topic for years now is just getting learned now . It was definitely the most useful thing Cactuar ever taught me about smash.

 

[KAOSTAR]

Im pretty sure I initially tried no lasers, no shines, and the laser height training after reading your thread. But I spent alot more time playing mewtwo, I guess I just decided to try it again. I didnt really benefit much from it b4 due to my lack of understanding of the game and falco in particular.

 

[Brookman]

M2 > falco.

 

[Cactuar]

have people never read my thread before? I've suggested dropping lasers to learn how to play with them forever now. I mean, I'm happy people are learning to do it, but I'm just kinda sad that something that's been suggested in a stickied topic for years now is just getting learned now . It was definitely the most useful thing Cactuar ever taught me about smash.

Lmao. Proof that I've been spitting the same theorycraft and learning strats for YEARS. I never get tired of hearing myself be smash awesome, but I can totally see how collecting all of my infoz and putting it all into one convenient location, only to have it be passed over by impatient newcomers would set my needles on edge.

 

[Mogwai]

Lmao. Proof that I've been spitting the same theorycraft and learning strats for YEARS. I never get tired of hearing myself be smash awesome, but I can totally see how collecting all of my infoz and putting it all into one convenient location, only to have it be passed over by impatient newcomers would set my needles on edge.

No disrespect, but there are only really two of your "infoz" in that thread (the other being the discussion on laser spacing). I appreciate what you've taught me as a smasher, but to call my thread a collection of all your infoz and putting it into a convenient location is pretty insulting.

 

[Cactuar]

Rewritten with less hostility!

I meant it hypothetically, as if I were to have created a thread of my own from all of my own info. Going from what I said, to the assumption that I'm calling your thread a collection of my stuff is a clear misinterpretation of my statement. I probably could have been more clear lol

 

[stingers]

i taught my little brother to use falco with no lasers in 2002. y'all need to step your game up

 

[Mogwai]

na, it's cool, I get what you were trying to say now, but your wording is/was really weird to me (didn't see it as a hypothetic because it lacks an "if" and is otherwise unclear as to whether it's talking about a hypothetical situation or the situation that already exists [my thread]). I dunno, maybe my reading comprehension just sucks or maybe I'm just overly defensive about my thread because I have so much time invested in the damn thing .

 

[Cactuar]

Ya, I reread it and I definitely could have worded it better. No worries.

 

[Linguini]

Linguini is lurking...

learning...

to beat Falco...

nah man i already know how to do that haha

actually i'm just trying to get my falco better if anything,theres some good **** in this thread

 

[Rubyiris]

M2 > falco.

m2 > falcos who don't know how to L-Cancel versus tall characters.

 

[KAOSTAR]

and the ones who try to land directly behind you and still get grabbed lol

 

[Brookman]

m2 > falcos who don't know how to L-Cancel versus tall characters.

Hmm. . no, I'm pretty sure L canceling = L canceling. Maybe you're confusing L cancel with some other AT?

 

[Mogwai]

I think he means Falcos who dair way too early so that the opponent's height actually matters.

 

[makoforce]

what is shine>laser good for?

 

[Mogwai]

what? shine -> laser? ... what?

 

[Brookman]

It's good for taunting your opponent who is terrified to leave their shield when you're pressuring them.

 

[Dr Peepee]

Also very useful for catching opponents who you think will roll/WD OOS.

 

[Mogwai]

........shine, not shield... or did he mean shield?

 

[Dr Peepee]

As in you're pressuring someone's shield and they're just sitting in it I suppose. So you shine after an aerial and then laser or something.

 

[Mogwai]

oh, who you think will roll/dodge, not who think you will roll/dodge... hmmm... I guess, I dunno, I'd rather WD forward and react with shine (vs. dodge) or dash grab (vs. roll).