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... maybe he thought of Ike?
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Official BBR Tier List v6
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B.A.M.
Smash Lord
dude are you kidding me? The majority of the cast can get double jabbed all day by falco and cant do ish. Heck even MK gets double jabbed like a *****. The thing about it too is the freakin range he has for a damn jab. then you add his options from jab and its just crazy. The only jab i could see being better than Falco's is Luigis or Ike.
B.A.M.
Smash Lord
LARRRRYYYYYYYY. lol
Clai
Smash Lord
Some day I'll show you what it's like to be a real man in this game. And then I'll take all of Peach's mediocrities and shove it down her throat along with the darkness that flows beside me.
Some day...
B.A.M.
Smash Lord
^ Sonics always spit truth.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
Not even in the Midwest yo.
Peach didn't win a tourney this past year?
ADHD
Smash Hero
This **** is bananas.
_Kain_
Smash Champion
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Kyle always loses to Darklink sooooo...no
Never see an AZ tournament where Darklink doesn't win and Kiraflax is 2nd
I just checked the Peach results thread starting in July of 2010.
1st place by Illmatic out of 14 at a local tournament.
Kyon got 1st out of 9 once as well. Very likely local.
That's it. July 2010-July 2011.
Ganon got 1st out of like...40?
1st place by Illmatic out of 14 at a local tournament.
Kyon got 1st out of 9 once as well. Very likely local.
That's it. July 2010-July 2011.
Ganon got 1st out of like...40?
Peach still won tournaments.
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Size of tournament only indicates popularity. It does not mean the level of skill one sees. Although, one sees a correlation with the larger tournaments seeing a high level of skill showing up.
Coney
Smash Master
pretty sure king beef won a tournament in the past year or so, unless it was really that far back
not sure about the competition but i know he won something
not sure about the competition but i know he won something
Yoshi won a tournament.... While half the players were drunk.
Coney
Smash Master
wow that is very interesting and pertaining to the discussion at hand please tell me more about this "yoshi" character
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King Beef won a "Lake Erie Summer Slam" tournament last Summer. It was a small tournament, though.
Eddie G
Smash Hero
Alien Vision
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Keep mocking the lord of darkness. He doesn't even use his sword. Muahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Eddie G
Smash Hero
Supermodel From Paris
Smash Hero
Peach is the new Fox
GunmasterLombardi
Smash Champion
Yes, it matters a lot.
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Blue Rogue has gotten so much better since that tourney you beat him at, though.
basvhout
Smash Apprentice
lol marth has a new at-grabrelease @ wario, let's switch em xD
knew diddy would get up higher.
knew diddy would get up higher.
Eddie G
Smash Hero
I don't doubt it, but I've been watching/playing him for a long time now and not much has really changed from a gameplay perspective; he's just placing in the top spots much more consistently now. I have yet to face him head-to-head in bracket again since then as well.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
Meanwhile.... ROB has won multiple tournaments
Judo777
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Yea i was thinking ikes jab. That thing is almost a snake ftilt for damage. if you get 1 2 1 2 3 hits which happens most of the time when hit with ikes jab its like 24%. Its also REALLY big. Granted it is frame 3 but i still think its a little better than falcos. It almost combos into silly things like utilt and bair.
_Kain_
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utilt and bair work depending on the way you DI the jab. San confirm please
Actually a lot of characters can SDI to jump aerial. Marth can SDI to fair and MK can SDI to dair. Peach/Wario can probably nair etc etc.
Juushichi
sugoi ~ sugoi ~
I had Meneil utilt my Sheik out of Jab.
I was kinda impressed. Then she pooped on me with spikes.
I was kinda impressed. Then she pooped on me with spikes.
smashkng
Smash Lord
Ike's jab cancel to Utilt is easier to do on floatier characters like MK, G&W and Peach and when you jab them quite above the ground, but faster falling characters are easier to jab lock with the jab cancellings, like Snake and DK. The jab cancelled Utilt is a legit kill setup, at least if only 1 jab is used. It's very hard to SDI on reaction a frame 3 move and because most of those who are easy to set that up are floaties, they die pretty early vertically.
I think Ike's jab 1 gives a +6 frame advantage on hit at least IIRC, more if they're falling to the ground which can be at times the +13 frame advantage which is required to Utilt, which is why it's easier to jab cancel Utilt floaties. Jab cancelled Ftilt can be a good option sometimes as well if the opponent happens to be very high above Ike and decides to air dodge into the ground instead of double jumping above Ike.
But Ike's jab isn't just damage racking. It's also a really good OoS option. Many times it's the only way for Ike to punish the opponent OoS because his grab range isn't the best and Ike's jab has more range than his grab.
I think Ike's jab 1 gives a +6 frame advantage on hit at least IIRC, more if they're falling to the ground which can be at times the +13 frame advantage which is required to Utilt, which is why it's easier to jab cancel Utilt floaties. Jab cancelled Ftilt can be a good option sometimes as well if the opponent happens to be very high above Ike and decides to air dodge into the ground instead of double jumping above Ike.
But Ike's jab isn't just damage racking. It's also a really good OoS option. Many times it's the only way for Ike to punish the opponent OoS because his grab range isn't the best and Ike's jab has more range than his grab.
Iota
Smash Lord
^ this is exactly why I think ROB going down so much was cruel on the BBR's part.
xDD-Master
Smash Champion
??? ... ???
Nidtendofreak
Smash Hero
If you SDI Jab 1 with the intention of jumping, you risk the next jab eating your jump, causing a hard landing, you fall to the ground, making our frame advantage +13, etc. You don't wanna do that.
That is of course assuming you don't see you SDIing away as you aren't going to get away after one SDI and decide to just do the full combo. Or cancel into a grab, which is only one frame short of being a true combo in any situation and thus will beat out any aerial you're trying to do.
Ike's jab is too good. You all just mad your character doesn't have dat jab.
Kuro~
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