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[NJzFinest]

Mew2>DK

I tried to convince Taj otherwise in his thread, but I'll just go with what Mex/Taj say. It's not like I'll need to worry about this match-up, ever.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Doesn't DK's bair shut Mewtwo down same as it shuts down Samus?

I suppose I can visualize Mewtwo comboing DK really easily and always recovering. But I also feel like DK's uair, bair, and sweetspotted up-b would kill Mewtwo really early ...

 

[BunBun]

BSB all day ?

 

[giuocob]

I'd be okay with DK > Luigi. Almost the entire Luigi board thus far has said that they believe Luigi has the advantage, but I don't think any of them have extensive knowledge of the matchups. This is one of those midtier vs midtier matchups which has never actually happened, leading to hugely varying ideas from Luigi >> DK to DK >> Luigi. Mexican has some of the best experience (not that that's saying much...) so DK > Luigi sounds fair.

 

[unknown522]

Luigi used to be my low tier main (but he's not low tier anymore). IMO, he has the advantage vs everyone lower than him on the tier list.

 

[otg]

I disagree, some of you take it too seriously.

Thank you Kage.

I don't know what trip some of you guys are on. At no point and time did I make a huge stink about my opinion on the matchup or anything like that. Jesus people are crazy.

 

[giuocob]

Don't look at me, I don't even know what this whole thing was about, I'm just a bully.

 

[Divinokage]

Don't look at me, I don't even know what this whole thing was about, I'm just a bully.

Ya you are just saying whatever, stfu.

 

[otg]

Also, I stand corrected, it was shroomed who beat hugs, not waffles. Must've just gotten confused:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9749383&postcount=6322

 

[giuocob]

also, i stand corrected, it was shroomed who beat hugs, not waffles. Must've just gotten confused:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=9749383&postcount=6322

haha you were mistaken about something, gtfo this thread moran

 

[PEEF!]

Jesus people are crazy.

Finally the man speaks the truth. =]

 

[KirbyKaze]

If you actually seriously care about anything in Melee Discussion you're probably doing it wrong.

edit: Except the cool combos thread. That one works.

 

[Merkuri]

If you actually seriously care about anything in Melee Discussion you're probably doing it wrong.

edit: Except the cool combos thread. That one works.

I don't see why we can't be passionate while discussing topics. If we're only semi-serious while we're debating then there isn't much point in us taking each other's arguments seriously(as in giving the arguments any credit)

 

[Fortress | Sveet]

What did one troll say to another troll?

If you actually seriously care about anything in Melee Discussion you're probably doing it wrong.

I don't see why we can't be passionate while discussing topics. If we're only semi-serious while we're debating then there isn't much point in us taking each other's arguments seriously(as in giving the arguments any credit)

 

[KirbyKaze]

Meh. I think people take these topics too personally. Serious discussion is fine, but becoming butthurt over a matchup talk is pretty lololol.

 

[giuocob]

We're on the internet. NOTHING should be taken personally.

 

[KirbyKaze]

Yes but you forget that this is Smashboards.

 

[h!tboxexplo!ter]

this thread needs moar CAPS LOCK

 

[john!]

This thread gets a lot of hate sometimes in other threads for some reason. There's a lot of dumb stuff here, but also a lot of great discussion.

 

[SleepyK]

i dub kirbykaze cutiekaze

 

[idea]

currently discussing: drama

 

[Divinokage]

Drama is fun every once in a while.. especially RL smash drama, haha. =P Like people getting seriously pissed that they lost.

 

[Kira-]

I have a feeling that when HugS says Samus > Falco, he means like 55 - 45, which would warrant a "=" by the general rule of this chart. But of course, I could be wrong.

 

[x After Dawn x]

I have a feeling that Samus is the best character in this game.

Discuss.

 

[Merkuri]

She lacks too many killing options to be the best character in the game.

 

[Geist]

I think she lacks too many options in general.

 

[giuocob]

The best part of this thread is always when ICG comes in here and tries to convince everybody that a Pichu matchup for a given character is anything other than >>>, to absolutely no effect.

 

[BunBun]

The best part of this thread is always when ICG comes in here and tries to convince everybody that a Pichu matchup for a given character is anything other than >>>, to absolutely no effect.

Pichu > Kirby.

Sad but true.

Also, just for funsies, Pichu vs Roy is only Roy > Pichu.

i dub kirbykaze cutiekaze

I f*cked a girl that looked a lot like KK >.>

VTS still makes fun of me for it.

 

[giuocob]

Yeah, the fun's going to wear off when Pichu actually runs out of >>> matchups...hell, I'll argue Kirby >>> Pichu anyway!

 

[SleepyK]

pics of girl now so i can be attracted to kk and not feel confused

 

[Magus420]

If playing on YS though it's more like Roy >>> Pichu, lol.

 

[Divinokage]

pics of girl now so i can be attracted to kk and not feel confused

If only it was that easy! lol.

 

[KAOSTAR]

Doesn't DK's bair shut Mewtwo down same as it shuts down Samus?

I suppose I can visualize Mewtwo comboing DK really easily and always recovering. But I also feel like DK's uair, bair, and sweetspotted up-b would kill Mewtwo really early ...

No. Dk is easy. He is just too big like bowser. but a bit faster.

combo bait. Dk is one of the like 4 ppl m2 can actually camp decently.

Also m2s dsmash gets in DKs recoveries ***. Just the way the hitbox is

DK
zelda
ganon
bowser

kinda marth and roy but they can catch you lol

 

[NJzFinest]

How can Mew2 camp Zelda?

Neutral B vs Neutral B, Zelda wins haha.

 

[KAOSTAR]

You laughed so Ill take it as a joke.

neutral be is wayyy to laggy to be useful as a reflector. You just bait that **** and punish.

slow projectile and laggy reflector. I dont have to worry about getting hit while you are trying to reflect something thats probably not gonna hit me.

 

[Geist]

lol at the KK conversation.

 

[Pi]

Samus sucks, if you lose to samus you should feel bad

 

[john!]

samus is

- heavy as ****, heavier than ganon even i believe
- has easily one of the best recoveries in the game
- nice jab, tilts, and smashes for close range
- fantastic CC game helped by her weight
- up B OOS and nair disrupt combos easily
- weight and floatiness also prevent heavy combos
- has an excellent wavedash
- good and powerful projectile game

yup she's a pretty bad char

 

[ChivalRuse]

Samus isn't that bad. She just can't combo or approach ...

 

[Blackshadow]

Mewtwo can camp Ganon decently

What.

Spoiler

10whats