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Legan vs Overswarm(MK) Tourney Match
- Thread starter Legan
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Link_hero_Tubs
Smash Rookie
original green apple all the way
2.) pina colada cuz i like em ghostly
3.) blueberry is alright
4.) strawberry can stay in the closet because i think ive played my worst round with it on
5.) black licorice ... maybe at the end of october ill use it
2.) pina colada cuz i like em ghostly
3.) blueberry is alright
4.) strawberry can stay in the closet because i think ive played my worst round with it on
5.) black licorice ... maybe at the end of october ill use it
Legan
Smash Lord
Bumping this thread for some new vids, Let me know if you learn anything from them.
Legan stop ****** so much. I watch your vids and i'm always like wtf......you have a style that i've never seen before. If I were you I would stop posting vids before there are all of these Legan clones running around.
Fantastic videos though, Deva might be better than you....but your certainly flashier and more entertaining to watch. You mix up your jab cancel game like no one i've ever seen before. You don't even own a wii either? I learned a lot especially how useful jab canceling into a fair is and i'm actually going to start trying to set up jab locks now.
By the way you have 666 posts.......you should probably post again ASAP.
Fantastic videos though, Deva might be better than you....but your certainly flashier and more entertaining to watch. You mix up your jab cancel game like no one i've ever seen before. You don't even own a wii either? I learned a lot especially how useful jab canceling into a fair is and i'm actually going to start trying to set up jab locks now.
By the way you have 666 posts.......you should probably post again ASAP.
Looticforgothispassword
Smash Ace
@marsulas: legan should never post again 666 is the number of the beast which suits him pretty well IMO.
@legan: how good is milk! concidered? post your vids in gaws matchup discussion, they will think you played with hacks.
@legan: how good is milk! concidered? post your vids in gaws matchup discussion, they will think you played with hacks.
FEaR.7
Smash Journeyman
Legan is THE Beast!... I mean... Legan is beastly. Yeah.
Nice matches Legan.
Nice matches Legan.
mackman
Smash Cadet
man, that was sick. i love your 'rang to jab lock. I've been experimenting with the same thing, but I didn't know if it would work against people at pro level. Nice to see that it does. Every time i watch a match of yours, i have to go and practice my pivot boosting. Great stuff.
Edit: Wouldn't it be better to pivot boost into the jab lock after the boomerang? I do it myself, and it seems to get me there more quickly than just walking forward, plus the potential for a ftilt or dsmash, among other things.
Edit: Wouldn't it be better to pivot boost into the jab lock after the boomerang? I do it myself, and it seems to get me there more quickly than just walking forward, plus the potential for a ftilt or dsmash, among other things.
Oddler
Smash Journeyman
Best bump EVER.
Sick matches, Legan. One tip you might wanna consider is when you're jab locking to take smaller steps so they don't DI behind you all of a sudden...still put a tear in my eye.
Mackman...if you take advantage of smooth boots you can get a sliding jab which will help in that tiny crucial period of time to reach them.
Sick matches, Legan. One tip you might wanna consider is when you're jab locking to take smaller steps so they don't DI behind you all of a sudden...still put a tear in my eye.
Mackman...if you take advantage of smooth boots you can get a sliding jab which will help in that tiny crucial period of time to reach them.
Legan
Smash Lord
lol Thanks bud, Im not worried about Legan clones, as long as they remember know who the original is theres no harm in showing them a few tricks. Yea the 666 kinda creeped me out D:
Milk is good but he doesnt main G&W so I dont think itd really be necessary. If they dont think that link can keep up with G&W than tell them to ask Needle of Juntah about me.
Ive never actually thought to pivot into the jablock, it just seems alot easier for me to just walk up during their hitstun but if it works better for you than go for it.
Ill keep that in mind, thanks odd
As always <3 Sasook.
Thanks for the feedback guys, I was sketchy on whether or not you even wanted to see more link matches after all the vids that have been posted. I find it easier to teach people through my matches than giving critiques so if people learn from them than thats a win in my book.
PS: Try not to completely rip off my style if you can help it though
Oddler
Smash Journeyman
You're so crazy inventive we'll always be three steps behind
Don't worry about spamming videos of you...they're crazy fun to watch.
Blubba_Pinecone
Smash Ace
Don't think you'll be shaking me off my green tunic anytime soon buddy. <3 lol
Great matches, and lol @ the ridiculous moments. Death by footstool and judgement. xD
Metro Knight
Smash Ace
**** I'd love to a Legan clone, like the ATs in these matches are so flawless lol, really fun to watch. good ****
Kief
Smash Ace
i love how you opened that second sonic match with a dair. he was probably like WTF?!?!
and marsulas is right nobody fights like you. way to be original. anyway awesome vids.
p.s. i use the green tunic as well but i wouldn't worry about seeing my link around anytime soon. i have a ways to go before i get that good lol.
and marsulas is right nobody fights like you. way to be original. anyway awesome vids.
p.s. i use the green tunic as well but i wouldn't worry about seeing my link around anytime soon. i have a ways to go before i get that good lol.
G1G4 G0N0RRH34
Smash Journeyman
**** legan good ****.
one thing i noticed though.. a lot of times you did something where you ran back a bit and threw a boomerang at them. sometimes this set up for jab locks but they began shielding a lot and punishing you. so you just just pivot grab or something. mix it up. i'm sure i saw you do it once or twice.
other than getting more grabs on them for pressure, you did really well. you're using sh b-airs > dj more moves and it makes you look really fast lol.
one thing i noticed though.. a lot of times you did something where you ran back a bit and threw a boomerang at them. sometimes this set up for jab locks but they began shielding a lot and punishing you. so you just just pivot grab or something. mix it up. i'm sure i saw you do it once or twice.
other than getting more grabs on them for pressure, you did really well. you're using sh b-airs > dj more moves and it makes you look really fast lol.
Dingding123
Smash Journeyman
LOL! Never thought about it like that. So that's why I'm the only one out of my friends who can pull off maining link.
A.D.D. LINK...oh look, a chicken...
...oh, sry...A.D.D. LINK MAINS FTW!!! xD
Deva
Smash Lord
Or it makes you play really slow and boring with a lack of AT's xD.
Legan
Smash Lord
Slow & Boring wins the race. Except I wouldn't really call you slow & boring anymore, you've gotten pretty **** quick. Watching someone with almost a completely opposite play style of mine is pretty entertaining from my viewpoint.
A.D.D FTW though, thats the best AT you've picked up.
I can perform most of the ATs pretty consistently, but I lack the skill for that one xD
ArdeS
Smash Journeyman
Grrr. I need to jab lock more. D:
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
Yeah me too. >_> I'd love to jab lock more but it's hard to pull off. Most of my opponents are good at teching the floor as of late (they really wanted to learn it >_>) and now I can't seem to use it. I'll work on it.
Also this post was typed on the Wii. I'm using a keyboard. You guys should see the letters just go and go and go and go and go.
ADD ftw. That explains the "go and go and go and go and go" thing lol
FUN STUFF!
Also this post was typed on the Wii. I'm using a keyboard. You guys should see the letters just go and go and go and go and go.
ADD ftw. That explains the "go and go and go and go and go" thing lol
FUN STUFF!
Onomanic
Heaven Piercer
That wasn't the one when you 3 stocked me was it? That match was hilarious. XD
Still typing from the Wii. :D So fun.
Oddler
Smash Journeyman
I walked Gimpyfish across the stage with a jablock the other day 
I'm starting to believe that Spin Attack is better for ending a jablock than F-Smash because it comes out faster than F-Smash so you can charge it for a few frames longer and chances are since it's not super used like F-Smash there won't be a single use of it in Queue over F-Smash in your 9 stale move list.
Whats your opinion on that, Legan?
I'm starting to believe that Spin Attack is better for ending a jablock than F-Smash because it comes out faster than F-Smash so you can charge it for a few frames longer and chances are since it's not super used like F-Smash there won't be a single use of it in Queue over F-Smash in your 9 stale move list.
Whats your opinion on that, Legan?
Blubba_Pinecone
Smash Ace
Well I ain't no Legan but I'll give my opinion.I walked Gimpyfish across the stage with a jablock the other day
I'm starting to believe that Spin Attack is better for ending a jablock than F-Smash because it comes out faster than F-Smash so you can charge it for a few frames longer and chances are since it's not super used like F-Smash there won't be a single use of it in Queue over F-Smash in your 9 stale move list.
Whats your opinion on that, Legan?
Stick with Fsmash.
Why?
Well, sure, maybe your Fsmash is stale, but that fact is negligble like 99% of the time. If you're doing a jab lock, the fact of the matter is you've either had enough jabs to refresh your Fsmash, or that the jab lock isn't long enough to land a KO in the first place, or that it started at an already high % and even a stale Fsmash will KO.
But the real advantage the Fsmash offers over upB is that you are safe. Fsmash has great range where you can charge from a distance where your opponent's rising attack can't reach you. The upB doesn't have this luxury, so while it may be more powerful at times, and a full charged upB is indeed Link's strongest attack, the safety and higher garantee of landing a hit that the Fsmash offers makes it a better option in my eyes.
The Milk Monster
Smash Champion
In response to what someone mentioned about me earlier, and what Legan said, I do main G&W now, and that judgment just cracked me up.
I was ahead about 60% I believe, so I was like.."Maybe I got this, awesome!", then decided to try Judgment, for the hell of it, and boom, got a 9.
When playing this man, don't think for a second you have a lead though, he'll catch up in a split second.
I was ahead about 60% I believe, so I was like.."Maybe I got this, awesome!", then decided to try Judgment, for the hell of it, and boom, got a 9.
When playing this man, don't think for a second you have a lead though, he'll catch up in a split second.
Bandit_Kieth
Smash Apprentice
i crap myself just watching the videos in absolute fear
No lol, it was on PS1. You uploaded it already.
I walked Gimpyfish across the stage with a jablock the other day
I'm starting to believe that Spin Attack is better for ending a jablock than F-Smash because it comes out faster than F-Smash so you can charge it for a few frames longer and chances are since it's not super used like F-Smash there won't be a single use of it in Queue over F-Smash in your 9 stale move list.
Whats your opinion on that, Legan?
Pretty much everything that Blubba said, except I dunno if they can do get up attacks out of a jab lock. I thought it's the standup only. Regardless, I remember Arkive saying if you whiff a spin attack you're absolutely doomed, but if you whiff an fsmash, at least you're safe.
Oddler
Smash Journeyman
Whiffing a spin attack is probably the worst case scenario....I'd love to know how many frames the first hit box lasts...would be really helpful. If you spin attack too late you might get perfect shielded and attacked...if you do it way too fast and hit them with the second hit box you'll knock them back still probably far enough so they can't retaliate (especially if they're at high percent off the stage). When someone is in a jablock they can't tech attack while you're charging.
If the spin attack is only like one frame for the first powerful hitbox then I wouldn't wanna do it... but if it has more than 1 and you let it go before your opponent is able to get hit and count on the first hitbox to still be there a few frames before they're up I can see it being the best.
If you can get the rhythm to jab lock a person you should be able to smack them at the appropriate time to not get shielded
If the spin attack is only like one frame for the first powerful hitbox then I wouldn't wanna do it... but if it has more than 1 and you let it go before your opponent is able to get hit and count on the first hitbox to still be there a few frames before they're up I can see it being the best.
If you can get the rhythm to jab lock a person you should be able to smack them at the appropriate time to not get shielded
Still, there's that CHANCE that it can happen. You wanna get rid of that chance. So I say stick with fsmash.
To be honest, I like SH not FF dair sometimes...because if they shield, I'm safe (dair bounce), and if they don't.....well booya.
To be honest, I like SH not FF dair sometimes...because if they shield, I'm safe (dair bounce), and if they don't.....well booya.
Blubba_Pinecone
Smash Ace
Yeah Sasook, they have all the options that anyone would normally have when lying on the ground. The thing that tends to make them stand up is the fact that if they are holding any kind of input before the time they are given the options by the game, it will make them do a normal stand up; basically put, the bouncing f*cks up their timing to do what they want usually. But if they wait till the proper time they can do anything as per normal.
Deva
Smash Lord
So I actually tried using the jab lock competitively the other day, just to give an AT a shot for once. I quickly realized why I dont use many ATs since after the first jab my opponent smash DI'd every jab after and no jabs hit after that. If anything, against good players, a jab lock is only good for 1 hit to make a forced get up so you can land a free kill move, nothing more.
Hue
Smash Cadet
Isn't it still useful for building damage at lower percents, or does the smash DI move them so much even then that you can't reach them? Would doing the pivot boost jab lock be a viable solution to an opponent DI'ing the jabs?
Deva
Smash Lord
no, yes, and no
if the opponent is good and knows how to constantly DI out of multi hit moves/ etc, they will smash DI the jab lock after the first hit, if not on the first hit, and if you're lucky you might get off 1 more jab. Just do one jab lock to a free kill move, it's the only consistant use for the technique, or if your opponent isnt good at smash DI lol. In that case, go ahead and jab lock them all day =P.
if the opponent is good and knows how to constantly DI out of multi hit moves/ etc, they will smash DI the jab lock after the first hit, if not on the first hit, and if you're lucky you might get off 1 more jab. Just do one jab lock to a free kill move, it's the only consistant use for the technique, or if your opponent isnt good at smash DI lol. In that case, go ahead and jab lock them all day =P.
Oddler
Smash Journeyman
Which way did he go when he DI'd? Can you paint a brighter picture for how it looked like...? How he looked like, how you looked like for reference?
Hue
Smash Cadet
To escape the jab lock, I'm pretty sure you DI/Smash DI away from Link, in the direction the jab lock is moving. It sort of makes it like trying to jab lock at high percents, because of how far they move each time you don't have time to get there to jab them before they get up.
Deva
Smash Lord
basically. After 1 jab he moved about another sword length away from me so I couldnt even move in far enough to initiate another jab.