Is This What You Call Entertainment And Fair Play?

[lain]

I think that it was very entertaining.

And Spam is crazy smart. Wish you didn't quit ;_;

 

[Venom NY]

So...are you guys ready to bring back melee or what?

 

[Pierce7d]

lmao. This thread made me LULZ.

I'm surprised Bum, that as such an avid competative gamer, that you really feel so strongly.

I'm not here to argue, though I don't approve of the insulting of my crew mates, but I will say this.

Apex was full of new ****, and MK was not the name of the game. That character's dominance on a national level is DYING and fast. Apex was fresh, fun, and felt new again.

I do not enjoy Brawl+. It's not because I don't like hitstun, or that I think the game is over agressive. I simply don't like the idea of games where the "best possible option" is so frequently spelled out for me. In Brawl, you have a lot of options at all times. You must repeatedly out-manuveur and out-predict your opponent. To me, long strings of uair combos are just like chaingrabs. Easier, harder, I personally don't really care. I enjoy the mindgames, and Brawl is truly a mental battle.

Also, as for the amount of viable characters . . . Brawl has more viable characters than Melee. IIRC, Fox did not win any MLGs, and he's the best character. We now have a Snake that won a national tourney, over the best player in the world, and beat him and his MK pretty solidly.

Also, I attack a lot, and win. Camping is simply EASIER than attack. Better? The majority of this community doesn't know how to BAIT properly, so I'm not sure.

Seriously, Apex was the tourney to be at. I wish you were there, you might think differently.

EDIT: OH, I forgot the reason I was going to post in the first place.

Air planking isn't broken. The VAST MAJORITY of characters can fight it, INCLUDING Olimar and Diddy. Patience and intelligence is needed.

 

[teh_spamerer]

In Brawl, you have a lot of options at all times.

No...you really don't. If you had a lot of options you wouldn't be forced to camp if your opponent does and is close in skill level to you

You must repeatedly out-manuveur and out-predict your opponent.

Translation: You must repeatedly outspace your opponent and not be greedy ever.

Brawl is truly a mental battle.

I wish.

Also, as for the amount of viable characters . . . Brawl has more viable characters than Melee. IIRC, Fox did not win any MLGs, and he's the best character.

OH YOU ARE SO DYING NOW

Even if this WAS true, which it isn't: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6hUHkEPS0

You would be an idiot. If the best character didn't win, that would prove how balanced the game is, not that it is unbalanced. There are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many characters in Melee capable of winning tournaments. Even all that aside, MLG stopped running Melee years ago, and the metagame is STILL expanding.

1: Mango ($675.00) - Jiggs, Falcon, Falco
2: M2K ($337.50) - Marth, Fox, Sheik
3: DaShizWiz ($202.50) - Falco
4: PC Chris ($67.50) - Fox, Falco, Peach
5: chudat ($33.75) - Ice Climbers
5: Kage ($33.75) - Ganondorf
7: HungryBox - Jigglypuff
7: Azen Zagenite - Marth(I'm guessing here, it IS Azen after all)
9: Cort - Peach
9: KoreanDJ - Fox
9: JMan - Fox
9: Cactuar - Marth, Fox

1: Ally(guess)
2: Mew2King(guess)
3: Lain(Ics, DDD)
4: Anti(Snake, MK)
5: Atomsk(DDD)
5: Ksizzle(Lucario, MK)
7: ADHD(Diddy Kong)
7: Anther(Pikachu)
9: Seibrik(MK, DDD)
9: Candy(Snake)
9: NinjaLink(Rob, Diddy, Pikachu)
9: Blackwaltz(Olimar)

There is NO character on that list even remotely comparable to where Ganondorf and Peach are on the tier list. Jigglypuff isn't even top 5 in the game. Outside of the actual results, the number of characters in Melee that can actually place high and/or win tournaments is VASTLY greater than the number in Brawl. Bowser, Game and Watch, Kirby, Link(can win if you have a cp character for 2 of his matchups), Mario, Mewtwo, Ness, Roy, Yoshi, Young Link, Zelda(outside of a few matchups she does better in than Sheik) are the only characters that aren't viable for winning tournaments. That leaves 19/26, which is around 73% of the cast as viable. Don't even attempt to bull**** and claim that many are viable in Brawl.

Also, I attack a lot, and win. Camping is simply EASIER than attack. Better? The majority of this community doesn't know how to BAIT properly, so I'm not sure.

How many tournaments have you won playing like that? How many times have you placed top 5 playing like that? Exactly. This game simply does not let you attack against good people using good characters that know what they're doing.

You're a cool guy Pierce, but you have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't know something, DON'T act like you do. It is an extremely terrible idea because when someone comes along that DOES know that you obviously have no clue what you're talking about is going to make you look bad.

Lain - You would have seen me at Apex if it wasn't in between my finals. I would have entered Brawl because it was Brawl/Melee/Brawl+ and if I'm going to be there, I may as well.

 

[Tec0+9]

You've probably heard something like that where you teach Am I right?

No. You are wrong sir.

 

[Ryan-K]

NO NO NO KASHIF STOP BEING DUMB. Melee is so broken that you can overcome character boundaries with skill. THATS NOT RIGHT CHARACTERS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE BLATANTLY BETTER IN EVERY WAY THAN ONE ANOTHER FOR A REASON

 

[Tec0+9]

No...you really don't. If you had a lot of options you wouldn't be forced to camp if your opponent does and is close in skill level to you



Translation: You must repeatedly outspace your opponent and not be greedy ever.



I wish.



OH YOU ARE SO DYING NOW

Even if this WAS true, which it isn't: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6hUHkEPS0

You would be an idiot. If the best character didn't win, that would prove how balanced the game is, not that it is unbalanced. There are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many characters in Melee capable of winning tournaments. Even all that aside, MLG stopped running Melee years ago, and the metagame is STILL expanding.

1: Mango ($675.00) - Jiggs, Falcon, Falco
2: M2K ($337.50) - Marth, Fox, Sheik
3: DaShizWiz ($202.50) - Falco
4: PC Chris ($67.50) - Fox, Falco, Peach
5: chudat ($33.75) - Ice Climbers
5: Kage ($33.75) - Ganondorf
7: HungryBox - Jigglypuff
7: Azen Zagenite - Marth(I'm guessing here, it IS Azen after all)
9: Cort - Peach
9: KoreanDJ - Fox
9: JMan - Fox
9: Cactuar - Marth, Fox

1: Ally(Mario)
2: Mew2King(Lucas)
3: Lain(Ics, DDD)
4: Anti(Snake, MK)
5: Atomsk(DDD)
5: Ksizzle(Lucario, MK)
7: ADHD(Diddy Kong)
7: Anther(Pikachu)
9: Seibrik(MK, DDD)
9: Candy(Snake)
9: NinjaLink(Rob, Diddy, Pikachu)
9: Blackwaltz(Olimar)

There is NO character on that list even remotely comparable to where Ganondorf and Peach are on the tier list. Jigglypuff isn't even top 5 in the game. Outside of the actual results, the number of characters in Melee that can actually place high and/or win tournaments is VASTLY greater than the number in Brawl. Bowser, Game and Watch, Kirby, Link(can win if you have a cp character for 2 of his matchups), Mario, Mewtwo, Ness, Roy, Yoshi, Young Link, Zelda(outside of a few matchups she does better in than Sheik) are the only characters that aren't viable for winning tournaments. That leaves 19/26, which is around 73% of the cast as viable. Don't even attempt to bull**** and claim that many are viable in Brawl.



How many tournaments have you won playing like that? How many times have you placed top 5 playing like that? Exactly. This game simply does not let you attack against good people using good characters that know what they're doing.

You're a cool guy Pierce, but you have no idea what you're talking about. If you don't know something, DON'T act like you do. It is an extremely terrible idea because when someone comes along that DOES know that you obviously have no clue what you're talking about is going to make you look bad.

Lain - You would have seen me at Apex if it wasn't in between my finals. I would have entered Brawl because it was Brawl/Melee/Brawl+ and if I'm going to be there, I may as well.

Did I guess right? Lol at D1 ck. D1 WHERE ARE YOU AT MY DUDE.

 

[BUM163]

yup spam is right. how can you say brawl crawl is a mental game lol. brawl plus is a mental game just like brawl crawl, but at a faster pace. when you get hit by a hard move.... you shouldn't be able to get out of it. it's dumb pierce and i'm disappointed in where your head is at right now. YOU are one of the people i would of thought would be on my side. GUESS NOT. I STILL RESPECT YOU AS A PLAYER NO MATTER WHAT AND HAVE NO BEEF WITH YOU AT ALL. In a game the point is not to get hit. to be continue combos is soooooooooooooooooo stupid. what game has tripping and to be continue combos...... i'll wait for your reply.

 

[BUM163]

look at the first page to see people opinions about what i said. if you want to talk to me let me know and whether it's good or bad, i will put your opinion in the first page. i'm not here to be the enemy. just shed light on things that been in the dark to long.

 

[BlackWaltzX]

I kind of skipped from the first page where plank posted to the top of this page and down.
Anyway.. two things.

Plank-I'd enjoy if you tried planking me. I mean. You -did- try, but after I hit you out of the air multiple times you stopped doing it. So. Whatever?
No disrespect to you, but you did try it and don't deny it or act like you didn't. I mimic people and I -know- I played pretty gay and it came from you. Not people in California.

Bum - Melee is great. Brawl is ok, unless played like that. Brawl + is kind of garbs to me. Though I only played a bit, but the combination attacks in it are -much- easier than in Brawl for me. (At least as far as Olimar goes). It's just so much easier and simpler to combo and follow DI in Brawl + that it's not fun. At least Brawl and Melee I get to think...
I'd enjoy having Brawl + like melee and not as easy as it is now.

 

[_Yes!_]

I just played brawl with keitaro to train him or something. It was torture. I wanted to fall asleep mid-match. This game is the epitome of boring.

To anyone who thinks brawl+ is just mindless combos, I will mm you, with me only being allowed to do 3 hit combos at a time. This was Kashif's idea, and no, Kashif, I won't mm you.

 

[Plairnkk]

I kind of skipped from the first page where plank posted to the top of this page and down.
Anyway.. two things.

Plank-I'd enjoy if you tried planking me. I mean. You -did- try, but after I hit you out of the air multiple times you stopped doing it. So. Whatever?
No disrespect to you, but you did try it and don't deny it or act like you didn't. I mimic people and I -know- I played pretty gay and it came from you. Not people in California.

Bum - Melee is great. Brawl is ok, unless played like that. Brawl + is kind of garbs to me. Though I only played a bit, but the combination attacks in it are -much- easier than in Brawl for me. (At least as far as Olimar goes). It's just so much easier and simpler to combo and follow DI in Brawl + that it's not fun. At least Brawl and Melee I get to think...
I'd enjoy having Brawl + like melee and not as easy as it is now.

No i didn't, lol. You never knocked me out of the air. Grabs can't do that. Next time i'll get on the top platform on battlefield (which is obviously not a good level for that match, i need more open space) if we play it and stay in the air above that only.

I didnt try to camp you at all. I spent the entire match way too frustrated to do so

 

[XSilvenX]

The Bum vs. Rykoshet was so hillarious for me LMAO!!!

Heheh, Pierced's description of the "mental game" in Brawl sounds like what I hear from the Brawl players on Youtube who think because a game is based on combos the mindgames suffer.... tsk tsk tsk. Ah well, to each his/her own I must say.

I also have to say, Pierced you play a character that can bait beautifully, so thing are a little bit different for you. Not every character has the luxury of being able to randomly throw out aerials and get away with is *cough* Mk, Marth, DDD, etc etc.

Overall I think the Apex hype got into a lot of people's heads and made it seem like the GAME was amazing when in fact it was the players and the hype that made it amazing. At one point people were going 'OOOOH" because someone survived a move.. *_* Like...are you serious? The reason people were so excited at a lot of those matches were because of contagious excitement. You hear one person go "oooh" people start looking and then in a few seconds you have a crowd that gets hype and goes crazy over someone landing a smash or a single hit. Nothing amazing has to happen to excite an eager crowd...that's all I wanna point out. So don't let Apex fool you, Brawl is still Brawl people...

Bum - Melee is great. Brawl is ok, unless played like that. Brawl + is kind of garbs to me. Though I only played a bit, but the combination attacks in it are -much- easier than in Brawl for me. (At least as far as Olimar goes). It's just so much easier and simpler to combo and follow DI in Brawl + that it's not fun. At least Brawl and Melee I get to think...
I'd enjoy having Brawl + like melee and not as easy as it is now.

The funny thing is...Brawl+ combos are actually harder than Melee combos because the hitstun isn't all that paralyzing as it was in Melee. I don't know what version of Brawl+ you were playing....You did admit to having played it a short time so maybe that has something to do with your opinion of it. You should try actually playing it for more than a few minutes. Don't play a fighter for a week let alone and few minutes/hours in your case and judge it is all I'm gonna say.

 

[BlackWaltzX]

Plank - After you were grabbed, you took to jumping on platforms and using dair. I upaired it.
When it is fresh, it deals 22%. You stopped doing it after noticing that I guess.

Silven - I'm speaking strictly Olimar relations to the game. ANY combo in Brawl is easier to follow in every way in Brawl +.
I mean... dthrow->three upsmashes->upair->upair->upb? I could also replace an upair with dair or nair.

EDIT)) Again, everyone else could be more complicated or something.. but IDK how to select anyone but Olimar. SRYRYYYSYSRYSR

 

[teh_spamerer]

Next time i'll get on the top platform on battlefield (which is obviously not a good level for that match, i need more open space) if we play it and stay in the air above that only.

Battlefield is a great stage for the matchup.

 

[DAlegendarysamus]

Conclusion

Brawl does have more viable characters than melee that's 1st off the metagame on melee is evolving but the only reason it seems like players or the metagame is evolving for melee is because lot of good players left the melee scene. Brawl you have to worry about a **** load more of characters becuase all of them have some crazy **** to worry about. No melee if i was really good with fox,falco,sheik,marth captain falcon or jiggly puff i would not really worry about the other characters MAYBE ICE CLIMBERS BECAUSE OF THEIR BROKEN GRABS AND ****.
both games to be honest are grabs is because they both lack things that make them real competitive games. The perfect smash or the most competitive smash would be both smash games smash 64 and melee and now that brawl came out a lil bit of brawl. But let me stop ranting on about this, my whole point about all this is This game could be better with FAIR RULES to make a lot more characters playable but people don't care they just want to win. And the want to jsut say " oh u suck if u are good then just pick up the cheap characters and win" That quote my friends something that will kill the life span of the game.
Mark my words people.

And also on a sf4 note: that game isn't the best sf4 because of the fact we all waited ****ing like 8 yrs for a sf and they give us this one that's not really what i expected the game to have a lot more to it. But i tell you this the game is a lot more technical than smash just off of the simply fact u have to be on point with your combos and u don't have time to really 100 percent think when you are playing because u don't have that much time because you dont have that much room to move around so you have to think smart think quick and also be accurate with ur combos and attacks or you will be punished. Sf4 is not the best fighting game but its more competitive than the both of the smash games. One of the reasons is because sf4 has at least patches that they put in the game.

Anyways until this community community learns that WE make the game of what it is and we decide the fate of the community im not getting involved in any of this trying to change **** anymore because people dont listen until they start losign lol ( SNAKEE, NL,EVEN YOU BLACK *** BUM LOL AND OTHERS) I TOLD EVERYONE BAN MK PEOPLE BUT PEOPLE WAS LIKE " NO ITS JUST BECAUSE YOUR LOSING WES THAT WHY SO AND SO BEATS MK" THEN I TELL THEM WATCH THAT PERSON START LOSING AFTER A WHILE SURE ENUFF I TURN OUT RIGHT.
But if the community wants to act the way they want doing cheap **** to win and doing that then so be it. Everyone will see whats good in the future.

 

[ANTi_]

Lolololololololololol

 

[Plairnkk]

Plank - After you were grabbed, you took to jumping on platforms and using dair. I upaired it.
When it is fresh, it deals 22%. You stopped doing it after noticing that I guess.

Silven - I'm speaking strictly Olimar relations to the game. ANY combo in Brawl is easier to follow in every way in Brawl +.
I mean... dthrow->three upsmashes->upair->upair->upb? I could also replace an upair with dair or nair.

EDIT)) Again, everyone else could be more complicated or something.. but IDK how to select anyone but Olimar. SRYRYYYSYSRYSR

No, you don't you know I did, so don't tell me what I did. Doing aerials in a match is nothing like getting on the top platform and using all your jumps to stall. Stop acting like you overcame me trying to be anywhere near my gayest, because you didn't. lol

 

[Emblem Lord]

some people put up with it, have fun as they do gay sht. bum if you dont like it, brawl + or sf4 play those then. ur really good at brawl crawl tho, you win money why not advance the game so that its not so turtle-ish

You been playing this game for a year and you still don't get it.

The BRAWL ENGINE itself does not lend itself well to aggressive play. You get no TRUE reward (combos) for being aggro and you get plenty of defensive options. So it creates and imbalance between offense and defense.

Defense = Really good.

Offense = Really bad unless you are certain characters in which case, Offense = Not as bad but still bad.

 

[BlackWaltzX]

No, you don't you know I did, so don't tell me what I did. Doing aerials in a match is nothing like getting on the top platform and using all your jumps to stall. Stop acting like you overcame me trying to be anywhere near my gayest, because you didn't. lol

You are right that we didn't play PS1.

 

[BUM163]

Yo people who bash on brawl plus and talk about the hitstun obviously only played it for 2 matches or some. All i say is play it with people who had time with it such as myself or spam or yes or nl or silven and i guranteed you will see us d.i out of combos that you thought you could of done. I bet alot of people went to training mode... did a combo and was like wow this is bs. Characters that didn't have a chance in brawl have potential to compete now. Don't judge unless you try for at least a couple of weeks...... and play actual good people. Just to let people know i am having summer throwdowns in my house. Brawl plus is going to be heavily played and recorded. Alot of the games will be recorded. My aol name is oni163

 

[BlackWaltzX]

That is like saying dthrow to fair is not a true combo at 0%.
Olimar does what I said and people DI. I tried it.
Ah well, whatever.

 

[Eazy23]

First of all, Wes you really can't clown a dude for playing to win. Neo tells me all of the time," When you fight low tiers, just camp them because u don't know wtf they are going to do". So if this logic, which I agree with, is applied to any situation in which you don't properly know what the character can do, or how to combat the character, plank's tactic is perfectly acceptable. Was Plank supposed to say "hmm I dont know how to fight diddy so if I have one in the bracket I have to let them win"???? H3LL naw, he does whatever he has to do 2 get the win, if its legal, its acceptable, how can you bash dude for doing something that is within the rules? If the match would have been me using link, and I ran away from meta, and I won the set, would you clown me and my resolve to win? And Lol at saying m2k sucks, your arguement loses 150% of it's validity after that statement. I guess in your world, doing great things with bad characters is the epitomy of skill.....Sorry, thats not how skill is guaged on average, guess you didn't get the memo. There are 23445385 mk mains and none of them can do what jason does, don't kid yourself.

Bum, I feel your arguements. I also feel as though you make quick *** judgements about people and their basic statements, and it becomes difficult for them to convince you that you have the wrong perception. Maybe you should read over what Ryko was actually saying, you guys were having a fight when the topic of the fight wasn't even clearly defined or followed.

Yes!-I feel as though your style is very mindless in brawl+ so I will mm you any amount of money you want. O wait just saw a vid of ur snake, wont lie shizz is kinda hott. But that fox is lunch meat son!

It is no-ones job to make it easier on you to win. I've been upset with brawl since it came out and I realized that my ability to read people and other skills deriving from melee training weren't nearly enough to get me wins. It is annoying to see people who walk around like they are the ****, when they wouldn't stand a chance in the melee community, not only because they can't combo but because melee involves some completely different competitive aspects. But this is where the issue begins, THIS IS NOT MELEE. If brawl takes intense camping to win, and these people are more capable of doing so than you( you being anyone who cries about camping) they are better! You can't create your own criteria of what is good or skillful, and then hate on the people who don't operate within those premises. Value system, and what you find impressive is subjective and not concrete. So everyone needs to get off that Hitler ****, and stop trying to rule the world with their opinions of what is skillful and competitive.

Also, the clock is a factor in every sport! People run down the clock in boxing, teams kneel to keep the clock running in football, and teams play for the last shot in basketball, each of these is comparable to camping in brawl. I myself can rarely handle how camp oriented this game is, but to hate on someone who is stronger in that area than myself, is weakness. I can know that they aren't smarter than me in certain aspects of the game, or even feel as though I am more skilled overall, but none of these feelings give me the right to ridicule someone elses resolve to win.

 

[Omni]

1.) Brawl ain't Melee. If you don't like Brawl, don't play Brawl. There's no point in whining about it. No one is forcing it down your throat. Problem with most of you people is that you try to compare Brawl to Melee thinking they should be similar when they're two completely different games.

2.) I use Metaknight and I'm positive I'll bust chops at a "real game" like Street Fighter 4. See me. Emblem Lord knows what's up.

3.) Plank sucks. He doesn't know how to play the game and he enjoys pissing people off. Result? A campy Metaknight that times people out. You'll notice the higher ranked games are much more active and intense (comparing it to Plank's match-up). <3 Plank

4.) There are too many scrubs in this community.

 

[Emblem Lord]

Eazy

...

God****.

I remember when you were a noob. You have come a long way.

You got it right though.

You are either strong or you are weak.

There is no in between.

InfernoOmni - I **** you in SF4 ALL DAAAAAAIIII!!!!!! <3 <3 <3

 

[Snakeee]

I've noticed tons of differences in this game over time. Personally, I'm constantly having to come up with new ways to play at least with my main. If I don't find something new with ZSS every so often (or someone else does for me), I get destroyed by the people that know how to fight her.

The game is definitely evolving little by little, but it's not really that apparent just from a glance. I can perfectly see many people not realizing the evolution of Brawl, but it's there.

 

[hova]

SnakEEE- come play brawl with me

 

[DaiAndOh]

Baseball doesn't rely on clock. Not taking a side on that, just stating the fact.

This topic is hilarious though. I'm just watin' on that BB console release, but 'Sim makes me wanna play SFIV. It's like Axl became a mystical Indian! And of course those that know about me know it's all about that + for me. Last final tomorrow, summers gonna be fun!

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

I've noticed tons of differences in this game over time. Personally, I'm constantly having to come up with new ways to play at least with my main. If I don't find something new with ZSS every so often (or someone else does for me), I get destroyed by the people that know how to fight her.

The game is definitely evolving little by little, but it's not really that apparent just from a glance. I can perfectly see many people not realizing the evolution of Brawl, but it's there.

Considering the size of the community compared to Melee's in 2003-2003, this game is not evolving sufficently enough.

The problem starts with whose bright idea it was to remove hitstun, crouch cancelling, a form of l-cancel, float cancel, shield stun, and all of the above from the demo from Brawl at the last minute. These would have been the keys to evolving the metagame beyond the point of Meta domination.

Since those keys were forcibly removed, the game will not evolve beyond the point of Meta domination.

The sad truth is Brawl+ is closer to what Brawl was supposed to be like than Chocolate Brawl(I'm not calling it VBrawl).

You know there is a problem when making textures for characters is more fun than watching a Brawl tourney match.

tl:dr
Their attempt to make the game non-competitive completely ****ed up character balance, depth, and the longevity of the game.

Thank you Bum and Wes for opening everyone's eyes to the truth.

 

[Sneak8288]

and the moral of the story is... smash sux lets play somethin else lmao

 

[crismas]

Pfft smash is awesome...but I know something better...

POKEMON PUZZLE LEAGUE

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

 

[DaiAndOh]

Pfft smash is awesome...but I know something better...

POKEMON PUZZLE LEAGUE

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!

Team Rocket is so top tier. Voices that can annoy the crap out of people and awesome theme music

 

[Sneak8288]

u know whats even better.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4t6zNZ-b0A nothin like the fcc

 

[crismas]

LMAO yeah

James: I'm feeling giddy

bwhahahahaha

 

[Skip2MaLoo]

brawl reminds of that one time I was on the toilet and couldn't find toilet paper.

edit: yo bum if you ever host anything at your place, id come. I live in the projects lol

 

[crismas]

^ man that sucks 4 u

 

[Skip2MaLoo]

not really I like it. if u can play ball ur immediately pretty well known lol

 

[Sneak8288]

not really I like it. if u can play ball ur immediately pretty well known lol

i think thats the case in any hood... just stay away from chicken shacks

 

[Turbo Ether]

I don't call it entertainment and fair play. I call it a guy playing to win in game 3 of a loser's bracket set.

 

[blackanese]

daaaaaaaayums epic post bum LOL at papa homalons post on that pokeman shiz.

anyways yo after playing in apex. i seriously knew i had 2 and started learning 2 camp (b4 i even read this shiz) b/c apparently thats what i HAVE 2 do every now and then 2 win.