General Discussion & Character Rankings

[ViVa]

Wow, ****.

I wonder how mario would do it, if he could.

Might have a muck around with this soon.

 

[tibs7]

Yeah easy with every char, I'll learn it before next tourny for everyone to see

also zero, you said insta- throw...... I think it's just a normal throw lol.

 

[Zero]

Ah my mistake. There's two throws. One is a normal throw, one is an airdodge catch + throw. Timing is so strict on it though

 

[tibs7]

My char throws items for living bro, course i know of them both lol.

Was just sayin coz like in that vid, the zss I think was ff z catching and throwing it. Insta throwing maybe a bit to linear... But yeah I not sure

 

[luke_atyeo]

the airdodge catch + throw IS the insta-throw...

 

[I LAG]

why didn't anyone tell me i could do this against tibs????

 

[Silfa]

I don't think anyone said otherwise Luke.

 

[Zero]

Yeah I know Luke.

@ILAG lol you're meant to learn these things yourself

 

[Nixernator]

Pikachu also has a superior one that uses quick attack canceling and uairs. It's about as easy to setup as the zero suit one.

Can't Pika just uair > Footstool > QA lock people. Who needs nanas. Lol

 

[Toby.]

If that's working for more than a couple quick attacks then the opponent doesn't know about SDI

 

[tibs7]

yeah he can, but he can also just be holding a nana, then qac -> footstool -> throw nana down and repeat =]

 

[Attila_]

tibs should be banning fd against people soon lol. doesnt work for snake/falco, and ics have something better anyway.

 

[zApollo]

It can be done with platforms using ZSS. Not sure about the other characters.

 

[cheese619]

Doesn't work for Falco. ;-;

 

[Nixernator]

If that's working for more than a couple quick attacks then the opponent doesn't know about SDI

Ok then, Uair > Footstool > QAC > Uair > Footstool etc etc?

 

[zApollo]

Zero, is ZSS's pummel infinite on wario legal? I'd need to exert an infinite amount of patience to execute it also xD

Timing out Tedeth's Wario would be the most satisfying experience ^.^

 

[Zero]

Pummel infinite is a standing infinite, so it depends whether or not it's legal in the specific tournament you're entering.

 

[C~Dog]

Up to 300% lolololol

 

[iKiLLOTz]

Poor Poor Lucas

 

[Zero]

Yeah, up to 300%, then a uair, then camp for the 1 minute that's left, rofl.

 

[zApollo]

Yeah, up to 300%, then a uair, then camp for the 1 minute that's left, rofl.

What about f-smash, it would be so stylish if that actually connected. I haven't had a f-smash kill for years.

 

[tedeth]

What? How does this infinte work?

I was under the belief that only ness/lucas could be ground release infinited.

EDIT: Are you confusing Wario's air release animation with Ness and Lucas' ground release animation?

 

[Zero]

No, ZSS has an air release infinite on Wario. So essentially it's pummel + wait infinite. EVEN WORSE than a pummel infinite.

 

[S.D]

I find this interesting

http://www.mlgpro.com/content/news/304515/League-Speak-with-Sundance-Super-Smash-Bros-Brawl-Stream

Seems there may be no MLG Brawl footage... stupid Nintendo

 

[Dekar289]

nintendo have all to gain... but they say no
more like badtendNO amirite

 

[Zero]

Nintendo: Discouraging competitive video gaming, one way or another.

 

[Attila_]

No, ZSS has an air release infinite on Wario. So essentially it's pummel + wait infinite. EVEN WORSE than a pummel infinite.

i would like to see a video of this. although i have already seen the grab release --> dsmash --> pivot grab infinite, though.

 

[Zero]

It's an air release infinite, it's really really boring.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_Ocft5K4OE

This is a brand new one which is AMAZING.

 

[C~Dog]

MLG Update: Judge got last place. He was arrested. Lol

 

[tibs7]

is there a live stream for this?
and lol judge.

 

[Toby.]

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[C~Dog]

is there a live stream for this?

No, unfortunately MLG couldn't get the rights from Nintendo, so they are not allowed to livestream any brawl events =/

 

[Vlade]

Just live stream it anyway :D

 

[MTGod]

MLG Update: Judge got last place. He was arrested. Lol

Arrested for what :O???

Anyway, I really don't understand why Nintendo didn't let them broadcast... What possible reason could they have for not letting an established successful video game competition stream their game??? From my perspective, it offers free marketing... FREE marketing... Just doesn't make sense (albeit from a consumer's point of view )

 

[Melancholy]

It's not the sort of marketing Nintendo wants. Nintendo is obviously very geared towards a casual market at the moment, they want their games to be seen as fun for everyone. Last thing they want is for one of their major franchises to be seen as overly competitive.

 

[S.D]

It's not the sort of marketing Nintendo wants. Nintendo is obviously very geared towards a casual market at the moment, they want their games to be seen as fun for everyone. Last thing they want is for one of their major franchises to be seen as overly competitive.

True, competitive smash was something Sakurai never wanted, so he tried to take the competitive edge out of Brawl. imo he more or less succeeded but people took it on as a serious fighter anyway. That being said I think nintendo will give them the rights, they did for melee idk what's changed apart from their target market, who probably wouldn't know the first thing about competitive gaming anyway.

 

[TakFR]

so basically, they only want ******s playing their games

I mean why would you want to purposely take out something that didn't affect casual gaming, but gave more sales towards competitive players.

 

[MTGod]

There's more ******s in the world than there are competitive gamers

Anyway, I see where you're coming from, but also agree with SD's point about the target market - I really don't a) see the elderly gamers picking up Brawl, b) think the younger casual gamers would be search up MLG let alone know what it is, and c) think the younger casual gamers that DO find out about competitive brawl will necessarily be turned off from the game

Regarding point (c) I haven't met one casual gamer that got turned OFF from Brawl after finding out there is a competitive scene - they either shrugged it off or felt inclined to try it out... Same with Halo and Street Fighter... Nintendo's being way too cautious

Spoiler

or paranoid

I believe...

Now I end not contributing to the conversation

 

[Zero]

NickRiddle comes 9th at MLG Orlando, ZSS is totally viable (H)

 

[tibs7]

Who came 1st?