zApollo
Smash Ace
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wtf, that has to be rigged, or that diddy's f-air was completely staled to nothing by that nado before it connected. Rigged I say.
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Remastered
Smash Lord
Get under that bridge.Wario survives better than snake.
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luke_atyeo
Smash Hero
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nah its totally true
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Already voted yes, hope this has an effect >_>
Not BBR... it's for the unity rule set and nothing else.
has the unity ruleset scrapped brinstar yet?
things could get very amazing very quickly.
things could get very amazing very quickly.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
If they end up banning Meta Knight, I can't see any reason for them to scrap Brinstar :/
now that you mention it, this is true.
i'll still ban it against everyone though
i'll still ban it against everyone though
luke_atyeo
Smash Hero
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inb4 this time they get 80% yes and still dont ban him
Rad
Smash Ace
Australians shouldn't be allowed to vote in any poll worth a damn
This unfortunately.
They'll be like, well we should wait until after Apex before we ban him.
Then until after the next big tourney
And the next.
Until Smash4 comes out.
xXArrowXx
Smash Champion
no, mk is legit.
Surely this has to result in a ban...
ViVa
Smash Ace
It probably won't, I don't even know why they bothered to have another vote on this anyway.
zzz
There were 905 voters in this pole
There are well over 2,000 people on SWF
and well over 2,000 people that play Brawl
The majority doesn't give a damn.
So don't take any action towards MK and his current state of being legal.
That is AT LEAST as logical as you for bothering with this poll or movement in general. I feel bad just talking to you about it, even now.
But really,
Doesn't even matter in Australia. zzz you guys zzz
There were 905 voters in this pole
There are well over 2,000 people on SWF
and well over 2,000 people that play Brawl
The majority doesn't give a damn.
So don't take any action towards MK and his current state of being legal.
That is AT LEAST as logical as you for bothering with this poll or movement in general. I feel bad just talking to you about it, even now.
But really,
Doesn't even matter in Australia. zzz you guys zzz
You idiots are idiots.
this was a poll for the UNITY rule set.
MK will never be banned.
Tournament organisers may ban him though
this was a poll for the UNITY rule set.
MK will never be banned.
Tournament organisers may ban him though
Pretty much. But I just thought of something :D
Hey Shaya does this not imply that any tourney with MK legal cant be stickied or whatever?
Unless that rule of "only Unity Ruleset tournies can be stickied" was abolished, or, a dream.
Hey Shaya does this not imply that any tourney with MK legal cant be stickied or whatever?
Unless that rule of "only Unity Ruleset tournies can be stickied" was abolished, or, a dream.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Meta Knight hasn't actually been banned yet, but if the ban is put in place, then yes, stickies would require an MK ban.
It's worth noting that there is a loophole though, if your tournament is also running a major Melee comp, it can still be stickied.
It's worth noting that there is a loophole though, if your tournament is also running a major Melee comp, it can still be stickied.
I'm just wondering what the policy on intentional glitching during games is. During the previous meet, before Leisha and Ricky showed up I accidentally flipped Scoot's Marth on the edge, so that he was grabbing the edge in the wrong direction. After a quick test game against a friend, I found out that this is actually quite easy to perform and could be very benefitial against the most common main in our scene. I'm just wondering, is it legal? It's nothing major and doesn't break the game, so I don't see why not.
swordsaint
Smash Master
it was against me 
what do you mean flipped a marth on the ledge?
If its Pit's shield against Marth's up B, if Marth angles it properly he'll grab the ledge fine and dandy.
If its Pit's shield against Marth's up B, if Marth angles it properly he'll grab the ledge fine and dandy.
swordsaint
Smash Master
i grabbed the ledge backwards...facing away.
Yeah... that's not uncommon.
If Marth up b's properly, that doesn't happen - as I said.
Chain Jacket glitch isn't banned.
Nor is DACUS (which I assume is a glitch).
Nor is Yoshi's weird egg roll instant kill thing on Frigate.
Zelda's dthrow spike on Falco, Ganon, Lucario etc isn't banned either.
In general, character specific glitches are not banned unless it's ridiculous (See: MK infinite dimension cape).
DACUS isn't a glitch, purposely programmed in by Sakurai.
And glitches aren't ever banned because they're glitches anyway, if they are banned it's because they fall under other ban criteria.
What?
Going to be totally honest with you, I think DACUS is probably like Wavedashing in Melee.
Also Infinite Dimension cape is a glitch. And it is banned.
What exactly is a ban criteria?
1. Dash attacks are purposely programmed with IASA frames for grab and up-smash, i don't know why Sakurai did this, but he did. And the IASA window is based upon how long your jump start animation is (hence why it's incredibly easy with Snake, much less so with Sheik).What?
Going to be totally honest with you, I think DACUS is probably like Wavedashing in Melee.
Also Infinite Dimension cape is a glitch. And it is banned.
What exactly is a ban criteria?
2. Wavedashing isn't a glitch, it's just a physics exploit, which the devs knew about before they released the game
3. IDC is banned because it's stalling and it's a broken approach, not because it's a glitch. (otherwise we'd ban landing during Ganon's fair...because it glitches when you land, or we'd ban punishing RCO lag or something dumb lol)
1. This doesn't necessarily mean it was purposely programmed to be that. Just like the Infinite Dimension Cape glitch wasn't purposely programmed to be that.
Can you perhaps source something that truly indicates that Sakurai did this?
2. Okay. It's a physics exploit. But also, Yoshi's Egg Roll during the stage flip of Frigate is also a physics exploit. It's a physics exploit that instantly KO's anything that Yoshi touches.
It really depends on your outlook on the word "glitch" imo. Sakurai didn't intend wavedashing to be in Melee, but they found it, and didn't bother fixing it because they were on a tight schedule. I think it's up to the individual to decide whether it's a glitch, but knowing that Wavedashing wasn't meant to be in Melee in the first place is a good start.
3. idk where I was going with that. lol
Eh. It's a broken glitch anyway.
Grim Tuesday
Smash Legend
Of course it was purposely programmed in, IASA frames for Usmash weren't accidentally added to every dash attack in the game, lol.
Infinite Dimensional Cape is caused by Up Smash making MK rise very slightly when it is pressed (this is because Up Smash is just a short-cut for 'Up' and 'A'), as well as MK's DC time being extended slightly whenever he touches the ground (this was presumably added to stop some other glitch, or something). It is an unintentional consequence of different codes working together.
The game is working just as it is programmed too, hence, it is not a glitch.
There were no mistakes made in the programming which caused wavedashing to work, the slide is programmed in and is still present in Brawl.
I doubt very highly that Yoshi's instant KO Egg Roll was a result of intentional coding being used in an unexpected way, looks more to me like two pieces of code glitching up when happening at the same time.
@Grimmy:
Okei. Still, it seems weird that he'd throw it in and not mention it ever; not even on the site.
Maybe it's one of those things he wanted people to find out, like how if you hit Starfy enough, he rages and hits you with ridiculous (it's like 3 seconds lol) hitlag, damage and knockback.
If looking at your perspective of "glitch", again, Yoshi's Egg Roll thing isn't really a glitch.
The slide may have been programmed in, but doesn't mean it's intentional.
I recall Sakurai saying in an interview that during testing he "noticed" wavedashing was possible.
You don't "notice" things when you program it in.
Noticing something indicates surprise.
I dunno. UNLESS I'M LOOKING AT IT WRONG.
Okei. Still, it seems weird that he'd throw it in and not mention it ever; not even on the site.
Maybe it's one of those things he wanted people to find out, like how if you hit Starfy enough, he rages and hits you with ridiculous (it's like 3 seconds lol) hitlag, damage and knockback.
If looking at your perspective of "glitch", again, Yoshi's Egg Roll thing isn't really a glitch.
The slide may have been programmed in, but doesn't mean it's intentional.
I recall Sakurai saying in an interview that during testing he "noticed" wavedashing was possible.
You don't "notice" things when you program it in.
Noticing something indicates surprise.
I dunno. UNLESS I'M LOOKING AT IT WRONG.