SpruceTengu
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xD Remind me to stay the f*ck away from the dark side.
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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
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xD Remind me to stay the f*ck away from the dark side.
Scidadle
Smash Champion
Fox is hard to play.
Tech skill wise.
And everyone knows the match up.
In reality JPOBS it's any top tier char not just fox
Tech skill wise.
And everyone knows the match up.
In reality JPOBS it's any top tier char not just fox
wtf throw -> u.tilt -> GO!
yeah i'm starting to question that myself.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Mario can u-tilt -> GO! without the throw or special positioning, though.
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Gross generalizations aside, how many of the really good Docs actually compete with fox? More specifically perhaps, which players? 0_o
SmashMac
Smash Lord
If you and the Fox player are at the same skill level you're going to have twice as much a hard time beating him than he has of beating you. If you know how to play against fox, but the Fox knows how to play against Doc., you're in a world of trouble. It's not impossible to beat a good Fox though. Most Fox players make the mistake of just approaching you and miss the fact that they need to space you, pressure you to roll and shield-grab for punishment, and lure you to the edge for easy shine spikes. I fight against Shiz's Fox constantly, his mindset is so keen to the game/matchup that dude ***** me with those tricks. Funny thing is he narrates the match while doing so saying things like, "Oh you're going to jump here, now roll here. See you got punished." But since I have Shiz and KeepSpeedN Fox practice it's hard for other fox players that aren't knowledgeable of the Doc. match up to take a set off of me, just because my mind is so used to knowing that unless this Fox player knows how to approach me and take advantage of my bad habits that otherwise they won't be as effective. I'm not going to sit here and name the other Fox players that I've beaten in tournament just because I'd feel like a d0uche-bag doing so, but just know that yes it's definitely possible to beat good Fox players as Doc..
Shroomed
Smash Master
I wish he went fox on me
I got the business from his falco
he made me only get 4th, under the money AGAIN =(
I played lucky, raynex, zgetto, lovage, eggz, silent wolf, n eggm
none of em ***** me cept lucky
I lost a MM to eggm at p4, played eggz bak in December n lost, go bak n forth with lovage, beat SW and raynex in all matches played
I got the business from his falco
he made me only get 4th, under the money AGAIN =(
I played lucky, raynex, zgetto, lovage, eggz, silent wolf, n eggm
none of em ***** me cept lucky
I lost a MM to eggm at p4, played eggz bak in December n lost, go bak n forth with lovage, beat SW and raynex in all matches played
Niko45
Smash Master
Eh...doc vs fox seems pretty close imo. It generally seems to be one of those matchups that really demands better tech skill and spacing consistently from Fox or else he's really in trouble. Fox can get hits from neutral position a bit better but killing can be tricky and/or risky while Doc's punish game is amazing and his edgeguard may be the best vs fox edgeguard in melee.
otg
Smash Master
I don't know about it being the best, but it's pretty ****ing good.
Niko45
Smash Master
ranmaru
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Yeah I guess the ones near my skill level could be beaten, its the ones above my skill level, and who know the doc matchup are hard. Also, at times I wonder if I REALLY do know the matchup. I mean, I know simple things such as fox get upthrowed, fox get caped out of upb, etc. I'm not sure if I am going about matchups right. I get ***** by good falco's and foxes, I dunno why. I noticed I wasn't spacing well, though. Thats one thing I have overlooked, without knowing it. Man misspacing a f-tilt never made me look so dumb haha.
otg
Smash Master
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J6W...laynext_from=TL&videos=AoKj8wI16Lk&playnext=1
GOD**** Brandon, that last stock was ****ing beautiful.
GOD**** Brandon, that last stock was ****ing beautiful.
SpruceTengu
Smash Journeyman
Not gonna lie to you $mac, wouldn't mind hearing that list.
Silent Wolf
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i played you in 1 friendly lol
edit: also i heard eggz ***** you when he played you >.>
Ya know, that quote alone is one of the main reasons why i finally got off my *** and did my matchup guide.
Smooth Criminal
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DaShizWiz
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Fox ***** Doc.
If they're both at the same skill level and dont know the matchup it could go either way, but if they're both at the same skill level and both know the matchup, fox will destroy doctor Mario. Its not even fair for Doctor Mario at all.
And I should've went fox against you shrooms
. I honestly think i beat Doc alot easier with Fox than with Falco, but in me and your matches i wasn't in the mood to play around lol.
If they're both at the same skill level and dont know the matchup it could go either way, but if they're both at the same skill level and both know the matchup, fox will destroy doctor Mario. Its not even fair for Doctor Mario at all.
And I should've went fox against you shrooms
. I honestly think i beat Doc alot easier with Fox than with Falco, but in me and your matches i wasn't in the mood to play around lol.
ranmaru
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Not not fair but Imma keep trying. xD Yes, I'm doomed but Doc is too good, I luv em! :D Sometimes I get a headache at tournies though, especially if I'm the only doc. After a while it was cool to see docs at tournies, doing well. : D
daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
I've never seen shiz go out of his way to go post on swf to put somebody in their place~~ daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
get scraped daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
I've never seen shiz go out of his way to go post on swf to put somebody in their place~~ daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
get scraped daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
DaShizWiz
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Hahaha, jus wanted to throw my opinion out; i love dogysamich hahah.daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
I've never seen shiz go out of his way to go post on swf to put somebody in their place~~ daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
get scraped daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
Gotta chill sometime man
Shroomed
Smash Master
REEEEEMATCHHahaha, jus wanted to throw my opinion out; i love dogysamich hahah.
Gotta chill sometime man
i wanna try again lol
why the hell r u so good!?!?
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Shroomed grab edge --> Bair more. Or grab edge --> nothing.
He was dead offstage a lot of times but you tried to time the Cape and then he recovered and combo'd you for like 60% and then you'd hit him randomly and he'd die or it would be his 3rd stock so you wouldn't hit him and he'd 2-stock you.
He was dead offstage a lot of times but you tried to time the Cape and then he recovered and combo'd you for like 60% and then you'd hit him randomly and he'd die or it would be his 3rd stock so you wouldn't hit him and he'd 2-stock you.
unknown522
Some guy
I love you shizFox ***** Doc.
If they're both at the same skill level and dont know the matchup it could go either way, but if they're both at the same skill level and both know the matchup, fox will destroy doctor Mario. Its not even fair for Doctor Mario at all.
And I should've went fox against you shrooms
also:
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=56800
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=115229
good times.
Rappster
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ranmaru
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Did you just say get scraped? xDD *sigh* I guess its better than getting *****. Or is it? ^_~daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
I've never seen shiz go out of his way to go post on swf to put somebody in their place~~ daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
get scraped daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayum.
otg
Smash Master
Those two threads are awesome, good **** Unknown. I like those old videos of your Doc too... and I can DEF see why you got frustrated and switched man. I've been playing with SWAT recently and I swear Jman makes me hate my character.
ranmaru
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You know, I still don't get the jab cancel. Not that I need it, but it would be convinient. I mean, I try holding down whilst jabbing or after, but I don't visually see anything. I don't even really know what a Jab cancel really is. LOL I was just thinking it'd probaly get to a grab quicker or something.
Scidadle
Smash Champion
Bronson is it safe to say that you're back into smash? You've seemed a lot more active lately
unknown522
Some guy
eighteenspikes
Smash Master
wtf is this thread title. i main yoshi *****
Eggz
Smash Hero
lol doc players
otg
Smash Master
*see's eggz, thinks about who eggz mains nowadays, decides not to change thread title*
JPOBS
Smash Hero
LOL^
also, i love watching ancient vids of people who are currently really freaking good.
its funny to see how bad they were lololol/.
also, i love watching ancient vids of people who are currently really freaking good.
its funny to see how bad they were lololol/.
maaaan just won a tourney. $285 dollars, sponsorship, and apparently i have a free ride to evo.
HOW BOUT IM STILL SALTY ABOUT HOW IT PANNED OUT.
HOW BOUT IM STILL SALTY ABOUT HOW IT PANNED OUT.
Dynamism?
Smash Champion
My favorite thing :D