otg
Smash Master
I dunno Ricky, I've been ****** these Tri-state marths for the last month or two now, and I'm talking like MAD good people too. I am the "Best Doc?" tho, so you know, you probably just suck and I rule etc etc etc.
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Q&A Doc General Discussion: Ask and ye shall receive ft. otg and Shroomed!
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KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Someday Sheiks will combo Doc properly.
One day.
One day...
*resumes twiddling thumbs*
One day.
One day...
*resumes twiddling thumbs*
You just need better control over your character.
I noticed you full-hopping a lot when you shouldn't have, and your WD a lot when you don't need to and they look kind of short. Also, D-air is the one aerial that's better to full-hop. Also don't come in from so high with Nair, and try to pass through Marth with it, not in front of him.
Also you should pill and jab more.
Also, you need to tech out of Marth's throws.
I noticed you full-hopping a lot when you shouldn't have, and your WD a lot when you don't need to and they look kind of short. Also, D-air is the one aerial that's better to full-hop. Also don't come in from so high with Nair, and try to pass through Marth with it, not in front of him.
Also you should pill and jab more.
Also, you need to tech out of Marth's throws.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
You're using bairs and pills correctly, for the most part. You're also getting ample grabs. Need to learn the combo percents, though. Below 60, you shouldn't even attempt dthrow -> fair. It should be dthrow usmash/utilt/uair and follow up from there, comboing if you can.
You shouldn't be running in with nair so much. Throw pills and make him approach you. Learn to wavedance (using wavedashes to space around attacks) and dash dance to grab when Marth lands. Also, try not to full jump so much. Marth's utilt, uair and fsmash will always beat anything you do from above, and it's easy for him to grab you when you land.
You're doing okay. It's a tough match-up. Work on your spacing and tech, and you should be good.
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Sheik isn't anywhere near her full homosexual potential and don't you act like she is.
Shroomed
Smash Master
she's not far off either
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
Sheik can be so much gayer than she is. We just need time. Time, my pretties...
*waddles back to smash lab*
*waddles back to smash lab*
ranmaru
Smash Legend
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Kazy Asplodes. The end. : [
Btw check this rhyme out its about smash, yep I made it a long time ago.
Start smashing keep dashing wow what a lashing that shiek what a geek! Lets take a peek Eek! Im so weak downthrow to bair eat the nair take the fair shine to dair such a pair! Oh too pro that I must stare! must keep my hair bring the chair wavedash must smash not mash owww don't bash L cancel, hey! Dance all day! time to pay heres the hay blue ray's jiggs must stay take my pill go down hill pay the bill heres your fill! Ness will swing Jiggs will sing Peach will fling and fox will sting Uuaa's fox so waaah make a noob go cryin maaaa! ;[ Stafu will tell you to get some tofu what? Yo, foo! Whats up, moo? Need to poo listen to the who convert to jew play until two need to talk to sue! like the color blue? what say? BOO! D-Torr's Diddy is a G, *****, watches G4! Thats what I have me for Zoro's Link makes you think stay in sinc keep to pink skate in the rink fix the sink oh p.U you stink! Forgot to jump first what a thirst Owwww a Falcon Punch Burst! Listen to Fred Durst My Samus is the worst Cristine's Peach makes me wanna have some reach to a leech likes long walks on beach loves to teach Al's Shiek he doesn't play all the time and his falcon is so good he randomly kneed me when I thought I was gonna die Vericz's Bowzer is so Good he burns wood and eats you for being rude don't be so crude likes to kick jude what that'ts not an infinite dude lets get some food! Kyon asks you whats there no a nair just kidding don't you dare! come into my lair Marths sword swing is a ding! no wait! Game and watch! Bell ring! DI to survive don't go up too high or you'll die can't punch gah I'll sigh oh what a tie its a draw I fought the law and the law won but thats not a pun, hun give me buns, son keep the hitstun keep you shunned JonPaul's Samus is not a Spamus, I don't like to lose stock I like to use Doc. ;3
Btw check this rhyme out its about smash, yep I made it a long time ago.
Start smashing keep dashing wow what a lashing that shiek what a geek! Lets take a peek Eek! Im so weak downthrow to bair eat the nair take the fair shine to dair such a pair! Oh too pro that I must stare! must keep my hair bring the chair wavedash must smash not mash owww don't bash L cancel, hey! Dance all day! time to pay heres the hay blue ray's jiggs must stay take my pill go down hill pay the bill heres your fill! Ness will swing Jiggs will sing Peach will fling and fox will sting Uuaa's fox so waaah make a noob go cryin maaaa! ;[ Stafu will tell you to get some tofu what? Yo, foo! Whats up, moo? Need to poo listen to the who convert to jew play until two need to talk to sue! like the color blue? what say? BOO! D-Torr's Diddy is a G, *****, watches G4! Thats what I have me for Zoro's Link makes you think stay in sinc keep to pink skate in the rink fix the sink oh p.U you stink! Forgot to jump first what a thirst Owwww a Falcon Punch Burst! Listen to Fred Durst My Samus is the worst Cristine's Peach makes me wanna have some reach to a leech likes long walks on beach loves to teach Al's Shiek he doesn't play all the time and his falcon is so good he randomly kneed me when I thought I was gonna die Vericz's Bowzer is so Good he burns wood and eats you for being rude don't be so crude likes to kick jude what that'ts not an infinite dude lets get some food! Kyon asks you whats there no a nair just kidding don't you dare! come into my lair Marths sword swing is a ding! no wait! Game and watch! Bell ring! DI to survive don't go up too high or you'll die can't punch gah I'll sigh oh what a tie its a draw I fought the law and the law won but thats not a pun, hun give me buns, son keep the hitstun keep you shunned JonPaul's Samus is not a Spamus, I don't like to lose stock I like to use Doc. ;3
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
I'm Sheik, clearly I'm going to poof and explode sometimes...
Man where's your F-Tilt? It rocks against marth.
I went to my first torney last weekend and I lost every match I played in singles and even in teames.
At least now I know I shouldn't be fooling around with icies or captain. I was surpised how I could fight back against one of the top players with Mario and in teames Doc is a beast.E: I kept counter picking Final Destination against every character and player. xD
Dynamism?
Smash Champion
Someday Docs will combo ShIEks properly.Someday Sheiks will combo Doc properly.
One day.
One day...
*resumes twiddling thumbs*
One day.
One day...
*starts twiddling thumbs*
There is no C in Shiek!
I BEFORE E
WOOP WOOP!
Marth is a piece of cake. My troubles be in Flaco and sometimes ShIEk
unknown522
Some guy
sheik v doc is such a stupid matchup
KirbyKaze
Smash Legend
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Zelda#Sheik
http://www.zeldawiki.org/Sheik
"I am Sheik. Survivor of the Sheikahs..." —Sheik
http://www.smashbros.com/en_us/characters/sheik.html
Sheik defies your spelling conventions.
ranmaru
Smash Legend
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Pills are good but don't forget that capfal is immune to your medicine, he takes crack man. So, you are simply gonna have to beat the **** out of him.
Now if this was brawl, he'd already have checked out of rehab, but meh.
Now if this was brawl, he'd already have checked out of rehab, but meh.
I know. My friend plays a mean Falcon. Does all type of **** to my pills. If only I dealed acid.
Um... no.
you can definitely catch capfal coming through pills. It's called throw the pill at the right ****ing time so you can do something.
or a usable pill game.
whichever you prefer.
you can definitely catch capfal coming through pills. It's called throw the pill at the right ****ing time so you can do something.
or a usable pill game.
whichever you prefer.
anthony000
Smash Journeyman
My advice for Falcon is don't try to be hero. You can get off on him, but the chances of you catching him are pretty low. Make him chase you because at the end of the day, he has to actually touch you to do damage. If you can run away while pilling correctly, you'll be alright. Then you just gotta get him off the stage. After that, it's gravy.
My only real annoyance with Falcons is that they always seem to hit the most random knees so my DI is ****ed and I end up losing a cheap stock at like 70.
My only real annoyance with Falcons is that they always seem to hit the most random knees so my DI is ****ed and I end up losing a cheap stock at like 70.
Yeah, pilling vs capfal and marth is more useful than people think. If you space the pill properly, by the time they are trying to n-air/f-air through it, you can be out of lag and ready to punish them for throwing a move out.
VGmasta
Smash Lord
Man, where are your youtube vids. of you "****** these Tri-state marths"?! I must see.
You mean the same f-tilt that Marth can just flat out shieldgrab NO MATTER HOW WELL YOU SPACE THE HIT. Sucks too, that's like Doc's longest reaching attack in his entire arsenal.
otg
Smash Master
Well;
A.) I was just trolling you.
B.) You can check out me vs. G$ and me vs. Niko on Youtube. The only other Tri-state Marth is hbk and we've never been recorded (there are other people who use Marth but either don't main him or are not as good as the people I listed, so I didn't bother cause I **** them unconditionally, just ask Swift, his Marth's *** was hurt after the last time he played my Doc.)
Also, if you're using Ftilt against marth's shield of course he is going to shield grab it. No one has ever said Doc's ftilt is safe on block, and any thought otherwise is just wrong. Ftilt is pretty amazing vs. Marth overall, but if you're planning on attacking his shield with (why would you ever do that in the first place?) then you got that shieldgrab coming to you.
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
The phrase "safe on block" reminds me of the Soul Calibur days ...
anthony000
Smash Journeyman
@ 4%
yeah mos def.
yeah mos def.
Welp, 3rd at FRXIII lost to greenmario and fmm. Awesome. -punches wall-
and melee is (unofficially) gone from FR.
So like, my chances of getting a pimpcup have plummeted to like, 5%. I can't even think of another game where I could get close.
Ah well. I had fun.
****in, u.air juggling greenmario and fmm up and down FD was hilarious. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE U.AIR JUGGLING "THE MAN WITH THE MOST U.AIRS IN A SINGLE SEASON" LIKE A BOSS.
kinda makes me wonder why we've been on this "doc cant juggle" ****. Hell, i've been questioning alooooooooooooooooooot of **** that "dont work".
and melee is (unofficially) gone from FR.
So like, my chances of getting a pimpcup have plummeted to like, 5%.
I can't even think of another game where I could get close. Ah well. I had fun.
****in, u.air juggling greenmario and fmm up and down FD was hilarious. THERE'S NOTHING LIKE U.AIR JUGGLING "THE MAN WITH THE MOST U.AIRS IN A SINGLE SEASON" LIKE A BOSS.
kinda makes me wonder why we've been on this "doc cant juggle" ****. Hell, i've been questioning alooooooooooooooooooot of **** that "dont work".
ChivalRuse
Smash Hero
It sucks that Doc's utilt doesn't lead into uair juggles, though, as with Mario.
otg
Smash Master
It does if you space it right, tho Mario's utilt is unquestionably better.
Dynamism?
Smash Champion
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I did not know this. Though I do like sending peeps off stage with utilt. Like Marths as a lategame finisher at high %, but Doc doesn't really need it for that. >_>
Scidadle
Smash Champion
So I think Doc is stilll my best char.
So I'm going to play fox/doc in tournament and fox in friendlies until I'm consistent with fox.
So I'm going to play fox/doc in tournament and fox in friendlies until I'm consistent with fox.
JPOBS
Smash Hero
People who say they main anyone not-fox in reality still main fox.
seriously, you start out playing him for fun, then you realize you win more with him. then you wonder why u bothered playing anyone but fox for so long.
seriously, you start out playing him for fun, then you realize you win more with him. then you wonder why u bothered playing anyone but fox for so long.
Shroomed
Smash Master
i can fully support this statement
VGmasta
Smash Lord
A.) I knew that
B.) I'll look into that stuff, thanx.
And of course I'll try to grab a shielding opponent if I think he or she is gonna shield.
But Marth's still gay for being able to outspace everything, EVEN BY SIMPLY PUTTING UP A SHIELD DOC'S ATTACKS. I mean Marth already has those awkward attack/dash animations that makes him lean really low to the ground, allowing him to dodge Doc's grab even though Doc's only like a few pixels next to him.
Anyway, don't mind me guys, I'm the Doc main who semi-flames Marth.
Man Dogy, you're hilarious. But seriously I know how you feel brah:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxtZIzgkIG4#t=335s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxtZIzgkIG4#t=475s
Niko45
Smash Master
Dam, am I really like the 3rd best Marth in tri-state? Cool.
otg
Smash Master
Hell yea *****... I would argue you're better then G$ but then I would get flamed to high hell.