DDD has a totally awesome hat. (DDD's cg extended)

[rathy Aro]

Hello DDD boards. I wanted to inform you that I just propelled DDD's metagame tremendously over the course of just today. This in NOT a joke thread!

lol. Seriously, BengalsRZ recently discovered true pivot to pivot grab or retreating pivot grabs. http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=231916 Check the thread and the vid to see what I mean. Now imagine you apply this to DDD's chaingrab. It would make the matches where he can chaingrab even more in his favor because his cg gets greatly extended because he retreats (this I tested and it really makes a huge difference).

This will definitely not be a guaranteed chain on marth and other difficult characters to cg, because it takes a bit longer than just running and grabbing. Someone should do testing to figure out who this is guaranteed on.

So basically: retreating pivot chain grabs can GREATLY extend (but not make infinite) DDD's cg on some characters.

It doesn't actually break the game, but it'd be really cool if it works.

Title is as it is so non-DDD's don't find out. **** snakes with this at APEX. lolThe title is fact. Period.

DDD BARELY slides, buts that's more than enough [to extend the cg a lot] .

Foxtrot-> wait for foxtrot to end->begin a dash -> IMMEDIATELY dash in the other direction(similar to how you would to stutterstep fsmash)-> pivot grab

in a cg

down throw->Foxtrot-> wait for foxtrot to end->begin a dash -> IMMEDIATELY dash in the other direction(similar to how you would to stutterstep fsmash)-> (give the dash a chance to start or it won't work) pivot grab->down throw etc.

It is NOT easy. trust me. x.x

~may have vids up next week~

 

[|RK|]

How on Earth

Did I forget to show this to the Kirbies?

I'm gonna do that now...
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[GooseMainsDiddy]

Trying to keep stuff like this a secret is Communist. I'm letting the world know the truth.

 

[rathy Aro]

nuuuuuuuu!

Joker already knew anyway. =/

I like how 2 non-DDD mains posted before any DDDs did. Sad.

 

[sMexy-Blu]

DeDeDe can now CG with the BROKEN ASSS range from a Pivot grab.

LOL

 

[rathy Aro]

More importantly, if he could cg you across the stage for like 5 throws he can now do 10. Too good.

 

[tekkie]

Can't wait to see video of this.

 

[GooseMainsDiddy]

I secondary D3.

 

[rathy Aro]

I've been trying to get this down all day. At best I can do 3 in a row when the speed is at 1/4. I haz no techskillz. =(

edit: it looks sick when it works though.

 

[|RK|]

Um, are you sure that Dedede can do this?

According this this post here:

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=7280987&postcount=39

Neither Kirby nor Dedede should be able to do this.

Like you however,

I will do some extra testing on the matter.
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[Tero.]

hmm this sounds interresting.

*goes testing*

 

[sMexy-Blu]

I can't do it with D3.

I can with Marth though. (my secondary)

 

[rathy Aro]

The post is right, he barely moved, but he is still in a much closer position then he would be with dash grab or sc grab. If he moved as much as marth it'd be an infinite (imagine that. lol).

 

[Jim Morrison]

I agree with the title, but I do not approve of the content >:[

 

[GooseMainsDiddy]

I agree with the title, but I do not approve of the content >:[

Why is that? This is a great find.

 

[Volt7x]

Can we ban D3 infinites now? :D
Actually, jk cause this looks like it will be fun to do.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

I can't do it with D3.

I can with Marth though. (my secondary)

I cant seem to do it either. Might be due to the fact D3 never really gets a slide out of pivot grabbing. The only slide i've seen my D3 do is one out of a successful dash grab.

Try it with Falco and see what happens.

 

[sMexy-Blu]

DeDeDe is the heaviest character in the game and also the fattest.

He can't slide for ****.

 

[Dark 3nergy]

DeDeDe is the heaviest character in the game and also the fattest.

He can't slide for ****.

Yea...maybe its just me but it feels like his pivot grab is momentum stopping...thats my feeling on it though.


I also wonder what this does for Olimar.....huh

 

[rathy Aro]

DDD BARELY slides, buts that's more than enough.

Foxtrot-> wait for foxtrot to end->begin a dash -> IMMEDIATELY dash in the other direction(similar to how you would to stutterstep fsmash)-> pivot grab

in a cg

down throw->Foxtrot-> wait for foxtrot to end->begin a dash -> IMMEDIATELY dash in the other direction(similar to how you would to stutterstep fsmash)-> (give the dash a chance to start or it won't work) pivot grab->down throw etc.

It is NOT easy. trust me. x.x

 

[Gates]

Why is that? This is a great find.

Because it's misleading and the thread title and the content in it have absolutely nothing to do with eachother whatsoever.

 

[Remzi]

OMFG, if this **** works I'll be so mad.

I wanted to discover something to help Marth not D3, my worst matchup.

FML.

*cries*

 

[phi1ny3]

Title is as it is so non-DDD's don't find out. **** snakes with this at APEX. lol

lol so you don't want other boards to find out (like lucarios and diddy who've had similar threads), yet you take it from the marth boards?
Shame shame

 

[Kinzer]

I came just because the title caught my eye (I like to see why spam threads are/will get closed ), so trying to keep this from getting out mad no difference.

Not that I care enough to actually tattle on anybody though.

 

[Commander_Beef]

The slide won't work for King Dedede. It's logic that since he doesn't get a slide from a glide toss or a smash boost, he won't get it from this new technique. He's too heavy for it, period. No need to test it...
Thanks anyways man for posting it here in the King Dedede boards though...

And D.E., Ganondorf is the heaviest in the game, not King Dedede XD.

 

[sMexy-Blu]

DeDeDe is the heaviest character in Brawl with DI, meaning he survives the longest with proper DI.

I can back it up with countless threads and testings.

Ganon and CF are like the 6th heaviest or something like that. (They both have the same weight and properties)

He actually slides a little bit though but the important thing is that he can move forward while performing a pivot grab.

 

[rathy Aro]

OMFG, if this **** works I'll be so mad.

I wanted to discover something to help Marth not D3, my worst matchup.

FML.

*cries*

Sorry. =( While I'm doing extended cgs I'll make my tag MARTH if that helps.

lol so you don't want other boards to find out (like lucarios and diddy who've had similar threads), yet you take it from the marth boards?
Shame shame

Marth wasn't using it right. lol

The slide won't work for King Dedede. It's logic that since he doesn't get a slide from a glide toss or a smash boost, he won't get it from this new technique. He's too heavy for it, period. No need to test it...
Thanks anyways man for posting it here in the King Dedede boards though...

And D.E., Ganondorf is the heaviest in the game, not King Dedede XD.

The post is right, he barely moved, but he is still in a much closer position then he would be with dash grab or sc grab. If he moved as much as marth it'd be an infinite (imagine that. lol).

 

[AnDaLe]

Tasty. but is there a D3 vid of it?

 

[aqua421]

i was playing around with this and i did notice a very small slide from D3, and i was able to get more grabs across FD than just the normal CG

 

[Mythic02]

Dedede doesn't have perfect traction. He isn't going to slide much, but this isn't supposed to make every chain grab an infinite. It's just supposed to help us get maybe one or two extra grabs in before we finish it.

I'm wondering what effect this could have on the buuman trap, it might help us position ourselves better.

 

[Volt7x]

Wait, I noticed you can do this by dash dancing. I've actually known that for a while but thought it was useless.

 

[The Phazon Assassin]

I have to see a vid of this in action. I don't see how it can be done quick enough to avoid getting evaded.

 

[CRASHiC]

If we do this on Luigi, does it become infinite?

 

[Tero.]

If we do this on Luigi, does it become infinite?

This is probably too slow too do it on Luigi.

 

[Jupz]

Wait so can anyone do this consistently yet?? I've only practiced about 2 mins but I only managed to do it once with marth on 1/2 motion

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

At least this CG takes skill to use lol.

GOD I forgot about the saying to have people not feel insulted. O_O

 

[Maniclysane]

Even if this only adds a few grabs, that's like, an extra 15% per cg. Does this let D3 cg chars he couldn't cg before?

 

[Tero.]

Even if this only adds a few grabs, that's like, an extra 15% per cg. Does this let D3 cg chars he couldn't cg before?

As allready said: no.
You can't even cg some characters with this, e.g. Luigi, Marth

 

[rathy Aro]

Wait so can anyone do this consistently yet?? I've only practiced about 2 mins but I only managed to do it once with marth on 1/2 motion

I can't even do it after spending a full day on it. Still need to put vids up but I haven't had a chance.

 

[Buuman]

This has been in my thread for awhile lol