Balanced Brawl Public Preview *GENESIS UPDATE*

[zxeon]

I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with using the codes that are released but use the proper names give proper credit and don't just take what is already encrypted.

Oh and here's a crazy idea, why don't you ask to use the codes?

 

[GwJ]

About the Brawl+ codes: These codes do not belong to anyone. Do you want AA to find a different way to make the same code? Modifications to the same game shouldn't be limited to a single outcrop. As it stands now, everyone except The Cape that's been complaining about the codes being stolen has been trolling in my eyes.

How about we limit textures to just Brawl+? Limit infinite replays to vBrawl? You're being elitests and need to understand that we are not split up. WE ARE A SINGLE SMASH COMMUNITY.

 

[shanus]

About the Brawl+ codes: These codes do not belong to anyone. Do you want AA to find a different way to make the same code? Modifications to the same game shouldn't be limited to a single outcrop. As it stands now, everyone except The Cape that's been complaining about the codes being stolen has been trolling in my eyes.

How about we limit textures to just Brawl+? Limit infinite replays to vBrawl? You're being elitests and need to understand that we are not split up. WE ARE A SINGLE SMASH COMMUNITY.

You ar enot a programmer. We didn't release our codes to the public. Would you like it if you wrote a shareware program, and someone reverse engineered your hard work and just released it to the public? Get off your high horse. If you did hard work and someone shamefully steals it, you wouldn't happy either.

The fact is, Thinkaman & AA did NOTHING to help make this code, and we wanted it in our set for our work. If we were to release it, (when it was done with attackIDs, etc), we could choose to release it. The fact that he reverse engineered our GCT instead of PMing us to ask for it just shows his character.

Good luck in the real world with that attitude.

 

[shanus]

Okay, seriously... what the **** is wrong with you? I support the Brawl+ project more than the bBrawl project, but **** like this is making me reconsider.

The issue is we didnt even release our throw mod. IT WASNT DONE YET.

Notice how it can't modify attackIDs yet? Yeah, the ICs infinite fix isnt done yet either.

Instead of asking to test our codes, they reverse engineer and steal them? See why we are pissed?

 

[GwJ]

I'm going to ask this again because you didn't answer. Do you want AA to remake the same exact code? You released Brawl+ to the open.

Here, I made you a chocolate cake. But you can't make cake now that I made cake. Pie is fine, but not cake.

 

[Mr. Escalator]

Maybe if you guys didn't act like socialists and run it all closed source they wouldn't of had to get the code themselves.

I would like some cake.

 

[Gravyguy101]

They stole some code, it sucks but its business. Pretty much every programmer and definitely every script kiddie has used code that is not their own. It happens everyday, every hour. Nothing you can do about it. it sucks for PK because it was his code and he SHOULD get full credit for the code somewhere in the projects documentation, but its how the cookie crumbled... Just leave it, its really not worth arguing about, its not like anything will change.

What they did wasn't ethical but nothing can be done about it. So just leave it.

 

[Plum]

I'm going to ask this again because you didn't answer. Do you want AA to remake the same exact code? You released Brawl+ to the open.

Here, I made you a chocolate cake. But you can't make cake now that I made cake. Pie is fine, but not cake.

You just completely ignored what Shanus said.

The code wasn't released to the public yet, so they instead took it from an encrypted file format (the .gct) instead of asking to use the code before its public release.

It wasn't that BBrawl creators can't use the code, its how they obtained it. It shows a big lack of disrespect to those who put there hard work and time into creating it for B+ use.
The proper thing would have been to wait until it was publicly released, or go and ask the B+ coders for permission to use the code.

Maybe if you guys didn't act like socialists and run it all closed source they wouldn't of had to get the code themselves.

The code wasn't finished yet. It would have been released when it was done, so don't act like the BBrawl users would have never gotten to use the code.
I don't know how well this would carry over, but perhaps those coding for BBrawl should be in the WBR? It's not like the Workshop is B+ only, and it would be wrong to treat the WBR as such, despite how it was made for B+. We aren't the only project here anymore, and something like the WBR should reflect that IMO. It would resolve any future issues involving codes if they were in the WBR.

 

[GPDP]

Maybe if you guys didn't act like socialists and run it all closed source they wouldn't of had to get the code themselves.

Don't even get me started on how inappropriate that label is.

 

[GwJ]

Ever think that AA or whoever simply didn't think he would need to ask for something that's available to the public? You still don't get that we are one community. We shouldn't be PMS'ing over each other using our available resources that we make available for the betterment of the community as a whole. It's your elitest attitudes that start this. I hate to say it, but the B+ community just seems to be full of them.

 

[Plum]

Ever think that AA or whoever simply didn't think he would need to ask for something that's available to the public? You still don't get that we are one community. We shouldn't be PMS'ing over each other using our available resources that we make available for the betterment of the community as a whole. It's your elitest attitudes that start this. I hate to say it, but the B+ community just seems to be full of them.

Again you aren't reading very well.

IT WASN'T AVAILABLE TO THE PUBLIC YET.

Notice how the code wasn't released yet? That implies NOT publicly available yet.
The B+ coders are just pissed that their work was stolen before it was released to the public. That is perfectly reasonable.

I don't like BBrawl in regards to play, but I respect its existence. I can't say the same for every B+ player, but that has nothing to do with why people are pissed off right now. It's the fact that a code was stolen from B+ coders. Not that we were here first, we like our game better, or any of that.

 

[GwJ]

Then how'd he get the .gct if it wasn't available yet?

 

[00000]

I'm sure AA and Think will properly credit the creators of the throw modifiers. You're both nonprofit organizations, there's no reason to be so hostile and uncompromising.

 

[Plum]

Then how'd he get the .gct if it wasn't available yet?

Just because the .gct is there, doesn't mean the code itself is public yet.
If the code was made to be public, you would see a comprehensive txt file with all the codes used. If it was public, you would see it in the code listing here in the Workshop.

The .gct is an encrypted file, that they reverse engineered to get the code without permission.
They essentially stole the code.
That's the problem.

Though the damage has been done, nothing can be done about that.

 

[VietGeek]

Then how'd he get the .gct if it wasn't available yet?

It is available, and getting its contents is very easy once someone in the IRC kindly demonstrated how to do so.

However, the real issue is of course ownership. As end-users we only want to use the program and tools the creators have compiled. Very often we don't care about the process involved, and cannot sympathize about ownership and the entitlements of the end-user in regards to the programs they utilize.

But the method to obtain the Throw Mod was considered stealing.

to take (the property of another or others) without permission or right, esp. secretly or by force: A pickpocket stole his watch.

PK only gave permission to the B+ team to use the throw mod. He never formally released it outside of the B+ .gct, which was meant to only be utilized...to play Brawl+.

The wrong here is that PK was never asked permission. Apparently never anyway. Therefore...

it is now an issue of ethnics more than anything.

Naturally you'll all ignore this or twist it somehow because let's face it, both projects are full of themselves. I think I wanted to ask who has the higher horse though. *shrug*

 

[iLink]

You're both nonprofit organizations, there's no reason to be so hostile and uncompromising.

This


You could have easily approached them and discuss it over a pm instead of turning this topic into a debate.

 

[GwJ]

Is it mentioned in the OP or somewhere on SWF that the throw mod is for B+ ONLY?

 

[VietGeek]

Is it mentioned in the OP or somewhere on SWF that the throw mod is for B+ ONLY?

Irrelevant. PK is the creator of the code, he can dictate how it is to be used.

He is one entity of the WBR. The WBR itself doesn't own the throw mod so to speak.

Take that as you will.

 

[GwJ]

Well if the other codes are fine interchangably, who's to say he didn't know the throw mod wasn't? How would he know that certain code was not allowed to be moved?

 

[Jiangjunizzy]

I was asked to do an illustration for the Brawl+ logo. But according to you guys, since the character is not "owned" by me or the Brawl+ project, that means anyone else making a hacked version of Brawl is free to use my image and plaster it all over their website/thread to promote their project without asking. I have no say in who can use it and I can't tell anyone not to because the character doesn't belong to me. You don't need to ask me, because what's the point? I'd just be greedy if I said no. So here, have it. It's not like I can stop you.

 

[The Cape]

Well if the other codes are fine interchangably, who's to say he didn't know the throw mod wasn't? How would he know that certain code was not allowed to be moved?

Thinkaman actually came onto our IRC channel and stated that he went inside our .GCT file and dug it out.

If its not publically released on the .txt, the we dont want people digging for it now do we?

Thats what got me all up in arms about this.

 

[Swordplay]

Jokey, You shouldn't like one project more than the other because of a petty argument like this.

You should like the one that is more fun to play for you.

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I'll say this once, If you don't care. DON'T get involved in this argument. Your going to get flamed and wrecked hard.

 

[iLink]

Thinkaman actually came onto our IRC channel and stated that he went inside our .GCT file and dug it out.

If its not publically released on the .txt, the we dont want people digging for it now do we?

Thats what got me all up in arms about this.

If he told you straight up that he did, then he probably didn't have the negative intentions that everyone is putting on him. Instead this broke out into a silly argument.

 

[MK26]

If he told you straight up that he did, then he probably didn't have the negative intentions that everyone is putting on him. Instead this broke out into a silly argument.

1) He tried to tell us that its completely possible for anyone to decrypt a gct to make a txt
2) Then he implied that PK gave him permission to use and post teh code, which he most certainly did not
3) Thats like texting someone you know and saying "oh, btw, when i was at your house today, i photocopied those documents marked 'confidential - do not read' because they looked like some other papers you had lying around." Just cause i tell you i did something doesnt make it right

 

[Wavedash Master]

If he told you straight up that he did, then he probably didn't have the negative intentions that everyone is putting on him. Instead this broke out into a silly argument.

This isn't just a silly argument. This .GCT had a beta throw mod that wasn't intended for people to use (because it was a beta, meaning incomplete). Thinkaman just decided to extract the code and not just do that, but also post it to the public.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=204677&page=763

He did edit it out. Although he may not mean no harm to the coders, what he did was kind of disrespectful. What Thinkaman should do now to resolve the problem is to apologize to the coders and kindly ask permission for the beta code. That way, there is no hard feelings. Don't turn this into a ugly monster, ok?

 

[Swordplay]

Well as long as there is no double standard it shouldn't matter and will get resolved.

As long as BOTH PARTIES ask each other to use the codes and give credit to each other it shouldn't matter.

 

[Wavedash Master]

As long as BOTH PARTIES ask each other to use the codes and give credit to each other it shouldn't matter.

This. I think this statement altogether settles it.

 

[Steeler]

I was asked to do an illustration for the Brawl+ logo. But according to you guys, since the character is not "owned" by me or the Brawl+ project, that means anyone else making a hacked version of Brawl is free to use my image and plaster it all over their website/thread to promote their project without asking. I have no say in who can use it and I can't tell anyone not to because the character doesn't belong to me. You don't need to ask me, because what's the point? I'd just be greedy if I said no. So here, have it. It's not like I can stop you.

this is a really REALLY badass picture and i love it

can i have permission to use it in my sig or something? :> (ironic statement considering your paragraph but whatever)

 

[Bladefist137]

Ever think that AA or whoever simply didn't think he would need to ask for something that's available to the public? You still don't get that we are one community. We shouldn't be PMS'ing over each other using our available resources that we make available for the betterment of the community as a whole. It's your elitest attitudes that start this. I hate to say it, but the B+ community just seems to be full of them.

Well then imagine yourself this situation, Say that you just finished a computer program that you have been working for a very long time and you were about to do the final tests for it.
But then you hear from a good friend of yours that he took your computer program without asking directly and says that he will release it for you to the public. What if the program wasn't completely ready and was like 85% finished? What if there were still bugs in it or critial errors? You can imagine 2 things that can happen:

1. Your friend who has released the computer program will get praised and get alot of credit for it even tho he did absolutely nothing for the program and the public will frown at or even hate the real programmer for not releasing it much earlier even we your friend says that it is your work from 0% to 100%.

2. After a few days from the day the computer program has been released, people has discovered alot of bugs, glitches or/and that it is incomplete even and they complain on how crappy the program actually is because the creator didn't do (or rather didn't got the chance to) the final steps to polish the program.

They wont blame your friend because after all he is just the messager and people will go all nerd-rage and berserk on you on how badly you screwed up the program and even if they blamed your friend, your friend will yell that he is just the messager and that it is your work so don't shout on him and then your complete reputation as a programmer was been destroyed.

If you were the programmer and 1 of the 2 situations happens to you, You would be extremely pissed too right? Just saying

 

[Mr. Escalator]

Both your analogy and signature blow. Anyway, the doubles matches I had mentioned will probably be up tomorrow instead of today.

 

[00000]

Well then imagine yourself this situation, Say that you just finished a computer program that you have been working for a very long time and you were about to do the final tests for it.
But then you hear from a good friend of yours that he took your computer program without asking directly and says that he will release it for you to the public. What if the program wasn't completely ready and was like 85% finished? What if there were still bugs in it or critial errors? You can imagine 2 things that can happen:

1. Your friend who has released the computer program will get praised and get alot of credit for it even tho he did absolutely nothing for the program and the public will frown at or even hate the real programmer for not releasing it much earlier even we your friend says that it is your work from 0% to 100%.

2. After a few days from the day the computer program has been released, people has discovered alot of bugs, glitches or/and that it is incomplete even and they complain on how crappy the program actually is because the creator didn't do (or rather didn't got the chance to) the final steps to polish the program.

They wont blame your friend because after all he is just the messager and people will go all nerd-rage and berserk on you on how badly you screwed up the program and even if they blamed your friend, your friend will yell that he is just the messager and that it is your work so don't shout on him and then your complete reputation as a programmer was been destroyed.

If you were the programmer and 1 of the 2 situations happens to you, You would be extremely pissed too right? Just saying

Slippery slope...

 

[adumbrodeus]

Honestly, would it be hard to make this the official version? It combines the official names, and therefore proper crediting, and the descriptions to make it easier to explor. Took like 20 seconds to make too.


This is an edited version that has the official names plus the effects as described by Thinkman and AA's coding in parathenesis. If I mixed anything, I'll be glad to fix it.

RSBE01
Smash Bros Brawl (US)

Infinite Replays
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Tripping Rate Modifier [KirbyIsCool] (No Tripping)
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Level Freezer[Phantom Wings/Almas, 9 Lines] (Stage Specific Speed Reduction)
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Default Settings Standard 
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Death Boundary Mod V2[spunit262] (Death zone mod engine)
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Death zone mod data 
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Char ID fix 2.1 [spunit262, The Paprika Killer] (Character fix)
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* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 090A4B19 00028029
* 0A4B1908 00280000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 090A4B19 00014029
* 0A4B1908 00140000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 09135D1E 03020033
* 165D1E03 00200000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 09026400 0005003A
* 03640003 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 090D5032 00169028
* 0D503200 00140000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 090B640A 00169027
* 0C6E0A00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 090A640A 00169027
* 0B6E0A00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 090A6400 00169027
* 0B6E0000 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 09096400 00169027
* 0A6E0000 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0909640A 00169027
* 0A6E0A00 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 09145514 0502D02C
* 145A1405 002D0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 09125514 0502802C
* 12551405 00230000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 09105A14 0016902F
* 105A2300 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 09067D2D 00169033
* 087D2D00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0A016400 0516903C
* 02640005 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 66021E0A 05044001
* 021E0705 00700000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 66011E0A 05044001
* 011E0705 00700000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6E01460A 03046002
* 014B1403 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 49046400 0006E000
* 04320000 006E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 49046400 0006E000
* 04320000 006E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0A123E32 0016902C
* 133E3200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0A143E32 0016902C
* 153E3200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0A163E32 0016902C
* 173E3200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0A183E32 0016902C
* 1B3E3200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B036400 02050033
* 050F3702 010E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B03640A 0210E033
* 050F3702 010E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B021E3C 02014018
* 021E4402 00140000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0D5028 02169033
* 0E502802 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0C5028 02169033
* 0D502802 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0B5028 02169033
* 0C502802 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0D5014 00169033
* 10501400 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B095014 00169033
* 0B501400 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B056432 02169024
* 06643202 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0B1E78 00050026
* 0C1E7800 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B081E50 00050026
* 0A1E5000 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0B532D 00169027
* 0D532D00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0C6137 02064028
* 0D613702 00640000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B145017 0205A032
* 17501702 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0F5A17 02046032
* 115A1702 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0F5A17 02078032
* 115A1702 00780000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0C643C 0005A032
* 10643C00 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0A643C 0004A032
* 0D643C00 004A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B086414 00169042
* 19501E00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0C0F4632 0016902C
* 0F4A3200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0C12441E 0005002C
* 12443200 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0C0F2832 00017118
* 0F323200 00170000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D0C5F14 0001402F
* 0C641400 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D0A5514 0001402F
* 0A641400 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D057828 03169033
* 07782803 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E056414 0005A027
* 07641B00 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E056414 0006C027
* 07641B00 006C0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E085023 00046029
* 08503200 006E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E085023 0005A029
* 08503200 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 7302503C 03032000
* 03304603 00730000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140C463C 1302D115
* 10414B13 002D0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140A463C 1302D115
* 0B464B13 002D0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140F6432 13122115
* 0F2E280B 01220000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140E6432 13050115
* 0E006413 01220000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14082350 0005011E
* 08005000 00000000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14026400 0005003A
* 05640013 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14075A46 13046114
* 125A5013 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14016432 0316911C
* 02643203 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14006400 000B4028
* 01640000 00B40000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14006400 00000028
* 01640000 00000000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140C641E 00050029
* 0C001E08 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140C641E 00046029
* 0C002808 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140C641E 0003C029
* 0C003208 003C0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 15134D1E 0016902C
* 114D1E00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1511501E 0004B033
* 0F501E00 004B0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 15026400 0016903A
* 02640006 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 160B5D32 0216902F
* 0B523202 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 160D5A32 0216902F
* 0D4E3202 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 16016400 0205A117
* 01004B02 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 16012D00 0201E117
* 01004B02 001E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 16012D00 02096117
* 01004B02 00960000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1603AA23 02046118
* 03004B02 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1609505A 02046114
* 06504602 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1609505A 02050114
* 065A4602 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 16093C5A 0201E11D
* 083C4602 001E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 170D520A 02169033
* 0E520A02 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 170E520A 02169033
* 0F520A02 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 170F520A 02169033
* 10520A02 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1704643C 02169033
* 06643C02 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 180A641E 0316902C
* 0E552D03 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 180B3228 1404602F
* 0B194B14 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 640B6423 E3169FFF
* 0F5532E3 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 64066423 E3169FFF
* 0D462DE3 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6406641E E305AFFF
* 0D462DE3 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6E033228 05050000
* 04322805 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6E05612D 0502D001
* 08612D05 002D0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6E046128 0502D001
* 06612805 002D0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 49012832 04046002
* 010F4604 00000000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1A09501E 03169033
* 0B501E03 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1A0C5A1E 03118033
* 124B3C03 01180000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1A0A5A1E 03169033
* 0C5A1E03 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1A073C0A 03169033
* 093C0A03 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1A04503C 00169024
* 06503C00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D020000 05019033
* 04000000 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D104B28 0005002F
* 105A2800 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D0C5541 0202D087
* 0C645002 0020D000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D116228 0002D02C
* 13692800 002D0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D116228 0002802C
* 13692800 00280000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D116228 0002302C
* 13692800 00230000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D116228 0016902C
* 13692800 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1D09821E 05169033
* 09822D05 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6F000000 12169000
* 00001412 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F085014 1110E033
* 0E501411 01000000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F0A5C20 11032033
* 105C2011 00300000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F085028 1116902F
* 09503C11 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F021414 11050033
* 04141411 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F03A00A 11037033
* 05A00A11 00370000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F02AA0A 11037033
* 04AA0A11 00370000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F02A00A 11037033
* 04A00A11 00370000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F046400 11064112
* 02640011 00640000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F046400 11072112
* 02640011 00720000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 1F046400 11078112
* 02640011 00780000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2004501E 0016903C
* 07005007 01400000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 640A3C32 15026000
* 0F3C3C15 00260000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 64093C32 15026000
* 0C3C3C15 00260000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6408500A 15169000
* 0A500A15 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 250C4222 0000002F
* 0C423200 00000000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 250C6410 00169026
* 0C641000 000A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 25086408 00169026
* 08640800 000A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 250C5A0A 00169033
* 0D460800 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 250A5A14 00169033
* 0B5A1200 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 250B4B34 0005A113
* 0C4B3200 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 250B4B34 00078113
* 0C4B3200 00780000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2509641E 00058033
* 0A641C00 00580000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 29012800 020B4118
* 02280002 00B40000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 29016400 020B4118
* 01002002 00E10000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C014600 0002D117
* 01460000 00870000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C038350 00041118
* 05835000 00410000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C04733C 00169118
* 06733C00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C056E0A 00169027
* 05780A00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C067828 02169027
* 06822802 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2E0D5F37 0005F028
* 0D533700 005F0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2E0C5F2D 00054028
* 0C532D00 00540000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2E07733C 00169024
* 07503C00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 4B045A1E 00169001
* 055A1E00 010E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F065A3F 00050033
* 075A3F00 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F063246 00050026
* 07324600 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F042837 00046026
* 05283700 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F084650 00046033
* 0A465000 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F083C46 00020033
* 0A3C4600 00200000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F074650 00046033
* 09465000 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F065028 00050029
* 07502800 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F065028 00046029
* 07502800 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2F06501E 00169029
* 07501E00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000

hitbox testing
* 0D0D5832 0206E027
* 0D0F4602 006E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D026400 03169024
* 014B000E 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D02A00A 03169024
* 01640A0E 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D0B6941 03046028
* 0B694103 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D016400 0001E02C
* 01640A00 001E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D016400 0002D02C
* 01640500 013B0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D016400 0003C02C
* 01640500 012C0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D016400 000A002C
* 01640A00 00A00000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D066428 02050114
* 08144B02 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0D066428 0516911A
* 0A145005 010E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6C046400 14169000
* 05640A14 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6C066400 14169000
* 07641414 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 18064641 00046029
* 08464100 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 18064641 0005A029
* 08464100 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 18064641 00050029
* 08464100 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0C0D5A14 00169033
* 0E5A1400 00230000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0C0A6400 00169033
* 0B640000 00230000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0C096400 00169033
* 0A640000 00230000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0C0E501E 00169033
* 0F501E00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C0B6428 00169033
* 0B642A00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C04640A 00169033
* 04642800 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C026400 00169033
* 02640000 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2C020000 00169033
* 02000000 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 29066400 020AA02F
* 06500002 00B40000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 29066400 020B402F
* 06500002 00B40000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 290B6B1E 0204802F
* 0B5F3202 00400000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 290A6E00 0205002C
* 0A6E0002 003C0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 290A6E00 0204C02C
* 0A6E0002 003C0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E056400 0001802C
* 05320000 00180000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E056400 0016902C
* 05320000 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E056400 0003C02C
* 05320000 003C0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E096432 0016902C
* 095A3200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6E032218 02000000
* 04221802 00000000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6E032218 02046000
* 04221802 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E076432 0203C026
* 07323202 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E056414 00169026
* 05641400 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 220D641E 0204102F
* 0D641E02 00140000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2210641E 0204102F
* 10641E02 00140000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2208641E 0204102F
* 08641E02 00140000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05051E3C 0500A1BB
* 06735005 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0508641E 02169182
* 09641E02 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05096432 02169182
* 0B643202 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05166432 02169183
* 16643202 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05146432 02169183
* 14643202 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05126432 02169183
* 12643202 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05186432 02169183
* 18643202 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0501280C 0200A16A
* 02280C02 00AA0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0502280C 0200A16A
* 02280C02 00AA0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05056432 0216916A
* 05643202 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05046428 0216916A
* 04642802 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05036432 0216916A
* 03643202 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0B0B5046 00050117
* 0D504600 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 010E1752 0004E131
* 0F175200 004E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 010E1752 00054131
* 0F175200 00540000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14056400 0008C02F
* 055A0000 00960000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14056400 0008D02F
* 055A0000 00960000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 14056400 0003202F
* 054B0000 00960000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140E4B3C 0008202F
* 0F503C00 00820000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0E0A501E 00046033
* 0B503200 004B0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 49065A3C 0016902F
* 075A3C00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 49065A3C 0304602F
* 08504B03 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 49065A3C 1316902F
* 0A233C13 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 49075A3C 0516902F
* 08783C05 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 4908583C 0016902F
* 095A4B00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6F0E3A5A 05058003
* 0E3E5F05 005A0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 05124641 0004612C
* 15464100 00460000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2306641E 00169027
* 06193C00 00120000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2305641E 00169027
* 05193C00 00120000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2308641E 00169027
* 08193700 00120000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 210A3246 0006E026
* 0B324600 006E0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 21071E2D 00078026
* 081E2D00 00780000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2107821C 1503C029
* 08821C15 003C0000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 21056400 15050027
* 06640015 00500000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2108641E 15169027
* 09641E15 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2106641E 15169027
* 07641E15 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 210E5D19 1516902C
* 0F5D1915 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 21105D19 1516902C
* 115D1915 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 210D5F20 15053032
* 0E5F2015 00530000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2109641C 15053032
* 0A641C15 00530000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 210E5D19 1516902F
* 0F5D1915 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2202961E 0016903C
* 03961E00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 140B641E 13041114
* 0B641E0F 00410000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 6F094632 00169000
* 0A463200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2E084B32 00113027
* 074B3200 01130000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2E086432 00169027
* 07643200 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 2E084B1E 00169027
* 074B1E00 01690000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0307640A 00169027
* 071E3700 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 0308640A 00169027
* 081D3700 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000
* 030A640A 00169027
* 0B1B3200 00190000
* FFFFFFFF 3F800000

Frame Speed Mod Engine V3.1 [spunit262, Phantom Wings]
* C2766C20 00000012
* 3C008180 807D0008
* 8063FFFC 7C030000
* 4080000C 80630030
* 48000008 386000FF
* 809D0014 C0240040
* FC40081E 81240058
* 61298000 D8410008
* 8001000C 80BD007C
* 80A50038 38C200D8
* 84E60008 2C070000
* 41820038 7CE8C671
* 41A0000C 7C081800
* 4082FFE8 54E8863E
* 7C004000 41A0FFDC
* 54E8043E 7C082800
* 4182000C 7C084800
* 4082FFC8 C0060004
* D01F0010 00000000
* C2766FB8 00000003
* 2C1D0001 4182000C
* C0230010 48000008
* C02283C8 00000000

Frame Speed Modifier Data
* 065A9400 00000098
* 071F8073 3F000000
* 0700003B 3FC00000
* 08190112 40000000
* 09190029 3F000000
* 0D140027 40000000
* 0F0C8070 3F000000
* 1300003B 3FAAAAAB
* 141E0029 3F000000
* 15358075 3F000000
* 18118073 3F000000
* 1A13001E 40000000
* 1F2D0114 3DCCCCCD
* 2000003B 3FAAAAAB
* 220F8073 3F000000
* 22158073 3EAAAAAB
* 2201011C 40000000
* FF000040 3FAAAAAB
* FF000041 3FD55555
* FF0E0054 40A00000

Conditional Action Modifier [The Paprika Killer, Almas]
* C277F780 0000000E
* 2C030000 41820060
* 3C008180 80BF0008
* 80A5FFFC 7C050000
* 4080004C 80A50030
* 80DE0038 38E2FE00
* 85070008 7D09C671
* 41820034 2C09FFFF
* 41A2000C 7C092800
* 4082FFE8 5509043E
* 7C093000 4082FFDC
* 81070004 5509843E
* 7C09E000 4082FFCC
* 551C043E 60000000
* 939E0038 00000000

Conditional Action Modifier Data
* 065A9128 00000040
* 0400011A 00100073
* 09000118 0010000F
* 0D000118 00100073
* 1F000114 0010000F
* 2200011C 0010000F
* 2200011D 0010000F
* FF000071 004A0016
* FF00008D 008A008E

Sub-stage select
* 066B5E0C 0000000C
* 38C00000 41A20008
* 60C60001 00000000
* 066B5E20 00000010
* 7CA30039 41A20008
* 60C60002 7CC03378
* C26B5E30 00000004
* 2C040008 4080000C
* 70A30010 48000008
* 74A30008 41A20008
* 60000004 00000000
* C2055760 00000003
* 3CA09018 60A50F3C
* 98850000 548407BE
* 28030005 00000000
* 04055774 60000000

Sub-stage select (spear pillar/SMI)
* C210FA10 00000004
* 887F0000 546407BE
* 3484FFFF 4C800382
* 2C1B0022 4CA21382
* 4C441202 00000000
* C210FA1C 00000003
* 2C1B0015 4C622B82
* 40A30008 989F0000
* 4C422202 00000000

Hanenbow is WiFi Training Room
* C26DCEE0 00000003
* A37A0022 2C1B0025
* 40820008 3B600037
* 60000000 00000000

WiFi Training Room Music
* 0410FE04 386327C3

Custom Stage Select
066B1E64 00000048
7F43D378 7F24CB78
480070E5 80180040
2C000002 41820010
2C030029 41820078
4800005C 4B9FD78D
2C030033 41810068
2C030028 41810048
2C030024 41810058
4800003C 60000000
046B1F04 4800002C
046B8F5C 7C802378
046B8F64 7C6300AE
040AF618 5460083C
040AF6AC 5463083C
040AF6C0 88030001
006B929C 00000025
066B99D8 00000025
00011D1E 1A020C0D
0E281420 24040305
21071F09 08270A0B
23250F10 22112613
1715161B 1C000000
006B92A4 00000006
066B9A58 00000006
06181912 2A290000
06407AAC 00000070
01010202 03030404
05050606 07070808
0909330A 0B0B0C0C
0D0D0E0E 130F1410
15111612 17131814
19151C16 1D171E18
1F19201A 211B221C
231D241E 37642932
2A332B34 2C352D36
2F373038 3139323A
2E3B0064 260A2832
34053504 36113702
38070064 251F251F
251F251F 251F251F

Debug Pause
80000000 805B8A08
0402E5AC 8819000B
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 EFFF1000
86410000 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 00FF0000
12000002 00000001
E2000001 00000000
4A000000 804DE470
38000000 FFEF0010
4A000000 805B8A08
3A000002 FF000000
12000002 00000100
E2000002 00000000

Frame Advance
041E6CD8 4BE1C128
041E6D1C 4BE1C114
06002E00 00000068
9421FF80 BC410008
7CE4402E 7CE738F8
7CE73039 3864FFC0
7CE3412E 7CC4412E
B8410008 38210080
60000000 481E3EB0
9421FF80 BC410008
7C03202E 3DC01000
7DCE70F8 7C007039
740E0408 3DE00408
7C0E7800 40820008
64001000 B8410008
38210080 481E3EBC

Extended Masterpieces
2001A960 41820028
0401A960 48000028
200107B5 4182000C
040107B4 4800000C
20057215 41800028
04057214 48000028
2001C099 41820028
0401C098 48000028
2001C4C9 41820028
0401C4C8 48000028
2001C4E5 41820028
0401C4E4 48000028
2001C74D 41820028
0401C74C 48000028
E0000000 80008000

Character ID list
Mario 00
DK 01
Link 02
Samus 03
Yoshi 04
Kirby 05
Fox 06
Pikachu 07
Luigi 08
Falcon 09
Ness 0A
Bowser 0B
Peach 0C
Zelda 0D
Sheik 0E
ICs 0F
Marth 11
G&W 12
Falco 13
Ganon 14
Wario 15
MK 16
Pit 17
ZSS 18
Olimar 19
Lucas 1A
Diddy 1B
Charizard 1D
Squirtle 1E
Ivysaur 1F
Dedede 20
Lucario 21
Ike 22
R.O.B. 23
Jigglypuff 25
Toon Link 29
Wolf 2C
Snake 2E
Sonic 2F

Stage ID list
00 (0) - Battle
01 (1) - BattleField (Battlefield)
02 (2) - Final (Final Destination)
03 (3) - Dolpic (Delfino Plaza)
04 (4) - Mansion (Luigi's Mansion)
05 (5) - MarioPast (Mushroomy Kingdom)
06 (6) - Kart (Mario Circuit)
07 (7) - Donkey (75 m)
08 (8) - Jungle (Rumble Falls)
09 (9) - Pirates (Pirate Ship)
0A (10) - Zelda2 (Bridge of Eldin)
0B (11) - Norfair (Norfair)
0C (12) - Orpheon (Frigate Orpheon)
0D (13) - Crayon (Yoshi's Island)
0E (14) - Halberd (Halberd)
0F (15) - TestHalberd_00
10 (16) - TestHalberd_01
11 (17) - TestHalberd_02
12 (18) - Karby2
13 (19) - Starfox (Lylat Cruise)
14 (20) - Stadium (Pokémon Stadium 2)
15 (21) - Tengan (Spear Pillar)
16 (22) - Fzero (Port Town Aero Dive)
17 (23) - Ice (Summit)
18 (24) - Gw (Flat Zone 2)
19 (25) - Emblem (Castle Siege)
1A (26) - TestEmblem_00
1B (27) - TestEmblem_01
1C (28) - Madein (WarioWare, Inc.)
1D (29) - Earth (Distant Planet)
1E (30) - Palutena (Skyworld)
1F (31) - Famicom (Mario Bros.)
20 (32) - Newpork (New Pork City)
21 (33) - Village (Smashville)
22 (34) - Metalgear (Shadow Moses Island)
23 (35) - Greenhill (Green Hill Zone)
24 (36) - Pictchat (PictoChat)
25 (37) - Plankton (Hanenbow)
26 (38) - ConfigTest
27 (39) - Viewer
28 (40) - Result
29 (41) - DxShrine (Temple)
2A (42) - DxYorster (Yoshi's Island)
2B (43) - DxGarden (Jungle Japes)
2C (44) - DxOnett (Onett)
2D (45) - DxGreens (Green Greens)
2E (46) - DxPStadium (Pokémon Stadium)
2F (47) - DxRCruise (Rainbow Cruise)
30 (48) - DxCorneria (Corneria)
31 (49) - DxBigBlue (Big Blue)
32 (50) - DxZebes (Brinstar)
33 (51) - Oldin
34 (52) - Homerun (Homerun Contest)
35 (53) - Edit (Stages made using the Stage Builder.)
36 (54) - Heal (All-Star Resting Stage)
37 (55) - OnlineTraining
38 (56) - TargetBreak (Break The Targets)
39 (57) - CharaRoll
3A (58) - General
3B (59) - Adventure
3C (60) - Adventure0
3D (61) - Adventure2
3E (62) - AdvMeleeTest
3F (63) - AdvMelee
40 (64) - BattleS
41 (65) - BattleFieldS
42 (66) - Max
43 (67) - Unknown

 

[Beta Knight]

Personally I don't think brawl is unbalanced to the extent that it needs to be hacked. Sure high tier characters like Meta Knight are good, but they're not unbeatable. Heck, most of his match-ups are near even. I feel people should wake up from this Balanced Brawl and Brawl + dream world and just play brawl how it was meant to be played.

Also I don't get why you took out chain-grabs and yet made it easier to combo.

 

[Eldiran]

Personally I don't think brawl is unbalanced to the extent that it needs to be hacked. Sure high tier characters like Meta Knight are good, but they're not unbeatable. Heck, most of his match-ups are near even. I feel people should wake up from this Balanced Brawl and Brawl + dream world and just play brawl how it was meant to be played.

Also I don't get why you took out chain-grabs and yet made it easier to combo.

To answer you concisely and non-flamingly, as I'm certain some might deign to, the simple fact is that some of us would enjoy Brawl more if all characters were equally viable.

Also, Balanced Brawl does not make it easier to combo.

 

[00000]

Sure high tier characters like Meta Knight are good, but they're not unbeatable. Heck, most of his match-ups are near even.

What.
10whats

 

[Shell]

Thank you, adumbrodeus. I'm sure Amazing Ampharos will swap out the texts when he returns and we can all have our "picnic" together.

 

[Linkshot]

AdvMeleeTest
AdvMelee

Wut? I wanna try these unheard stages.

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

AdvMeleeTest
AdvMelee

Wut? I wanna try these unheard stages.

Anyway, those are non-stages. There's nothing there, and the game will lock up if you force them.

 

[THK]

Why can't I pause and take pictures? What did you guys do?

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

Why can't I pause and take pictures? What did you guys do?

You must have compiled the .txt version yourself. Turn off the "debug pause" and "frame advance" codes; they are off by default and when turned on replace the pause feature with a "debug pause" system that is really useful for gathering frame data... but obnoxious for general use.