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Part of the problem is that my reaction time is shot. No clue why, but I seriously have a problem reading attacks in time.But if that's the case, I guess you're right.
NidtendoFreak needs to abuse that knowledge more.
I get nervous over anything easily. ;_;Getting nervous over a video game? I gave up on that a long time ago.
ComboKing used to post on the boards until he got shunned by practically everyone due to his senseless one-line posts. Almost half the time he didn't know wtf he was talking about and ended up getting yelled at by like everyone. I don't even know if he logs on anymore. Not that we care if he does... lol =]lol'd at Slaps, and who is this comboking guy?
In my case I have a tendency of anticipating what my opponents are going to do, but end up freezing up whenever I get to bigger tourneys or playing well known players. I guess I end up focusing more on the scale of competitiveness rather than on the match itself so while I'm lost in thought my hands are on autopilot repeating the same pattern.Part of the problem is that my reaction time is shot. No clue why, but I seriously have a problem reading attacks in time.
Hence me being one of the worse Ikes out there when it comes to actually playing, but being up there when it comes to knowledge.
When shielding it, you can spotdodge the last few hitframes of bair before he lands on the ground, then punish(not entirely sure about this but it should work).
Or just rage and start spamming counter if nothing else works![]()
From my limited experience against good G&Ws, it's very hard to approach him safely... I stick to trying to bait them into approaching with Nairs and single jabs.
You have to play really patiently and wait for him to make a mistake... which usually means I lose cause I get too frustrated. If you can figure out how he spaces with Bair, you can try to bait one and punish with a retreating Fair... other than that I don't have enough experience myself to say much else confidently.
I guess that must be that "hole" San heard from you about GnW's bair and that is pretty useful to know, thanks o-oG&W's bair stops delivering hitboxes when the head drops in the animation. You can learn the timing inherently without having to watch the head if you practice shielding bairs. At that point, you can just drop shield and jab while the bair is on your shield still.
*cough* <_<I guess that must be that "hole" San heard from you about GnW's bair and that is pretty useful to know, thanks o-o
I don't think most of the Ike mains here like me have that much G&W experience =/
NEVAH!Niddo my advice to you is to **** it and go down in a bang.
That's pretty much exactly what I said -.oDon't approach. You have more range, bait his approach.
Well, we have to assume that a good G&W isn't going to just Bair straight at your shield, something has to be done to provoke that first. I figure if you can bait him to do it anyways it's safer to just retreat an Fair and get that free damage. If you know the timing great, but if not, space it and play safe.G&W's bair stops delivering hitboxes when the head drops in the animation. You can learn the timing inherently without having to watch the head if you practice shielding bairs. At that point, you can just drop shield and jab while the bair is on your shield still.
I hate random attacks, I have the worst luck with that crap. I was fighting a DDD the other day and even though he was spamming his Waddle Doos the whole match, the only three that he used when they were guaranteed to hit me came out as Gordos.Unless he 9s me.
fsmash is Ike's best going down with a bang attackNEVAH!
I just need more Fsmash. :D
Zac is known to sandbag in friendlies and MM. He's serious business in tournies though.G&W Match-up:
Don't get ****ed by upB.
Space Nair and Fair a lot.
Jab -> Utilt.
There ya go.
Ike does pretty well against G&W and the match-up isn't very complicated. Really. I play UTD Zac and our games are always close.
Unless he 9s me.
usmash is good as well...fsmash is Ike's best going down with a bang attack![]()
bang is a a heavy momentum shifter. Only time Usmash does that is when you strategically duck by charging Usmash then nailing them with itusmash is good as well...
Kirk will be right with you. XDAnybody else think it'd be worth the time for us to discuss how to deal with every character's jabs and just the jabs? As opposed to skimming over 30+ matchup threads
Whenever I play somebody who doesn't know how to handle Ike's jab game they're taking 23%+ from one 'combo' of jabs/grabs/pummels/throws/grab releases when they could've gotten out with 12% or less and I don't wanna make that same mistake.
I'm not suggesting anything in depth, just whether or not their jabs reach further or come out faster than ours, what they choose to follow them up with and our options against it.
I'd make the thread myself but people would just jump in like they always do with all their intellectual condescending ***gy sarcastic 'this thread is useless' bull$hit and I don't wanna upset them =P
I look forward to it. I'll make sure to keep a first-aid kit handy.I'm testing out my recording device tonight. Will upload some friendlies late night. For those who will be staying up late will get to see my Ike at 30% Awesome. That's enough for your computer to explode.