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Wario Wario Wario

Wario Wario Wario

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    I felt it'd be fun to design how I'd do VC on Switch, this is some pipe dream stuff but it's still run to imagine

    There is a unified pricing system - so, for example, EarthBound would cost the same price as F-Zero - however, games are incredibly cheap. Given how easy splurging could be, Switch System Settings would let you choose between having each VC game be a single app or their own slot on the menu. Nintendo's arcade titles would still be distributed through Hamster's Arcade Archives.

    NES/Game Boy/Game Boy Colour: £2.99
    SNES/GBA: £3.99
    N64/DS: £6.99
    GameCube: £9.99

    Nintendo's games would not be drip fed but rather all of them would be avaliable from day one bar copyright issues (though attempts would be made to get those games), while third party titles would be added periodically

    If an accessory or gimmick is possible (and comfortable) to support, it'll be supported. Sorry Boktai. Gimmicky games usually aren't part of the bundles mentioned below, but there are exceptions.

    Each Switch would come bundled with 11 retro games, determined by the colour of the Joy-Cons bundled with the console bought - all except one (Tetris (GB)) are first party, Tetris is also a constant between all game lists with the rest being 2 NES, 2 SNES, 2 GB, 2 GBA, 2 N64. The pre-loaded games can be deleted to save space and redownloaded. Bundled games can be bought from the eShop if they're not included with your style.

    For colourful Joy-Cons (casual focus)
    1. Excitebike (NES)
    2. Kirby's Adventure (NES)
    3. Super Mario World (SNES)
    4. Donkey Kong Country (SNES)
    5. Game & Watch Gallery (GB)
    6. Mole Mania (GB)
    7. WarioWare Twisted! (GBA)
    8. Kuru Kuru Kururin (GBA)
    9. Pokémon Puzzle League (64)
    10. Mario Kart 64 (64)
    for darker Joy-Cons (hardcore focus)
    1. Kid Icarus (NES)
    2. StarTropics (NES)
    3. Super Metroid (SNES)
    4. EarthBound (SNES)
    5. X (GB) (English!)
    6. Frog for Whom the Bell Tolls (GB) (English!)
    7. Golden Sun (GBA)
    8. Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones (GBA)
    9. Ocarina of Time (64)
    10. Lylat Wars (64)
    When you boot up your Switch for the first time, the order of the retro games displayed will be based on what profile icon you choose - for example, a Donkey Kong profile icon would prioritise DKC while a Kirby icon would prioritise Kirby's Adventure. However, Tetris will always come first regardless of icon or joy con colours. Other Switch variants may have different game lists, for example the Mario Odyssey set would come with these Mario games alongside Tetris

    1. Super Mario Bros. (NES)
    2. Super Mario Bros. 2 (NES)
    3. Super Mario World (SNES)
    4. Yoshi's Island (SNES)
    5. Super Mario Land (GB)
    6. Donkey Kong 94 (GB)
    7. Super Mario Advance 4: Super Mario Bros. 3 (GBA)
    8. Wario Land 4 (GBA)
    9. Super Mario 64 (64)
    10. Mario Kart 64 (64)

    and the Fortnite set would have these games alongside Tetris, chosen to appeal to a Fortnite audience on either a thematic or mechanical level:
    1. Mach Rider (NES)
    2. Kid Icarus (NES)
    3. Tin Star (SNES)
    4. Super Metroid (SNES)
    5. X (GB) (English!)
    6. Solar Striker (GB)
    7. Advance Wars (GBA)
    8. Drill Dozer (GBA)
    9. Lylat Wars (64)
    10. Wave Race 64 (64)
    Of course, the Smash Ultimate set would feature characters or stages in the game who's origins or importance may be foreign to younger gamers:
    1. Ice Climber (NES)
    2. Balloon Fight (NES)
    3. EarthBound (SNES)
    4. Donkey Kong Country 2 (SNES)
    5. Kid Icarus: Of Myths and Monsters (GB)
    6. Super Mario Land 3: Wario Land (GB)
    7. Metroid: Zero Mission (GBA)
    8. Game & Watch Gallery 4 (GBA)
    9. Super Smash Bros. (N64)
    10. F-Zero X (N64)

    There would also be an officially licensed ROM dumper periphiral for the Switch, known as the "Game Transformer", allowing players to convert their old cartridges and discs into Switch titles.

    Fan-made mods, if of a high enough quality, could be released as official titles with permission from and compensation towards their devs.
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    KneeOfJustice99
    "We're pleased to announce that we're introducing the Virtual Console service to the Nintendo Switch! Please keep your eyes peeled for Super Mario Bros, the hit 1985 platformer released on the NES, and being sold for the low price of $9.99 (not including import tax.) This is the end of our announcement - the next Virtual Console Direct will be in 8 months. Goodbye!"

    Jokes aside, I love your idea there... I'm just not sure how some people would feel about the free games they get being defined by the colours of Joy-Cons they buy. Otherwise, though? I a d o r e it.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    The reasoning for the Joy-Con colour thing was age ratings - I wanted to include a variety of different games, but certain games would've bumped up the console's age rating, thus I went for accessible 3-rated games on the colourful Joy-Con bundle, and more serious or niche games that could be rated up to 12 on the monochrome Joy-Con bundle. Face Raiders bumping up the rating of the 3DS as a console didn't help it overcome the "it hurts eyes!" controversy, heh.
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    I'd kill for a Green and red joycon pack based on Metroid.
    Wario Wario Wario
    I will never understand what Sega were thinking giving 3D Sonic games analogue (360) movement instead of digital (8 or 16-directional) for so long.
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    Are you saying every 3d Sonic game should be like Sonic 3D Blast?
    Wario Wario Wario
    I always thought Banjo's stage in Smash would be like a mix of Temple and Golden Plains.

    I'm not sure if I'm happy or upset that I'm wrong.

    The Spiral Mountain stage is fun, but is somewhat of a low-mid-tier stage IMO. Feels like what someone with no knowledge of competitive play outside of "they don't like items, hazards, or walkoffs" would think competitive players would like.
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    My problem with most new Smash Ultimate stages (not everyone doh, but a good chunk of them) is that they seem really toned down due to that approach you mention of someone not understanding what a proper competitive stage would be and yet wanting to make one.

    The biggest example was Dracula's Castle: during the pre-release they were hyping It up as this cool thing and even seemingly teasing up some sort of gimmick involving Dracula and Kid Dracula... But in the end It turned out to be a rather whatever stage and Kid Dracula didn't even end up appearing in the game beyond a shadow. So that was quite dissapointing.

    There are other examples such as the BotW stage or the Xenoblade 2 stage... But yeah all in all I get this feeling that the devs were really scared of getting experimental with the new stages after how people reacted back then to Great Cave Offensive or Mario Bros.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    It's weird too - because half of Melee's stages were made for competitive play, and while not all succeeded (Corneria was supposed to be a competitive stage for example), some of them like Yoshi's Story and Fountain of Dreams are pretty much perfect outside of some small flaws.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Where do you fall on the "Sakurai wants your character" aligment chart?

    I've already made it clear I fall into the "True Neutral" in this scenario with my incessant Moleposting, but Chaotic Neutral, Neutral Evil, and Lawful Good are also tempting.
    Wario Wario Wario
    I've always found the "Sakurai just wanted a party game!" mentality so weird - a majority of Smash movesets are quite clearly designed intelligently to work in competitive play with their own playstyles, (bar a few noodle saleswomen and hedgehogs here and there) and that applies to all instalments including the primitive 64 and borderline-maliciously-designed Brawl. If Sakurai wants to make a mindless button masher a la Mario Party, he's doing a pretty bad job of it - or I guess too good a job for his own good?
    Wario Wario Wario
    Just testing the waters here: do any of these game concepts sound interesting?
    1. A platform fighter with diagonal air attacks, light/strong specials, and chargable throws
    2. A Lemmings-beat 'em up hybrid where you influence the other screen by attacking enemies and scenery
    3. A golf platformer (like Itchy & Scratchy on Game Boy, but good)
    4. A satirical simulation game where you have to decide what characters to add to a big crossover game
    5. A faux GBA/DS port for an existing game, featuring the same characters and similar locations, but 2D gameplay and a lot of subtle but odd differences, both to canon and gameplay.
    6. A mascot multiplayer dogfighting (with planes) game
    7. A Mother-like that emphasises the "scrappy group of weirdo kids' friendship" element over the "trauma and eldritch horror" element (which would be non-existant)
    8. A 3D platforming foot racer a la Rayman M with more mechanical depth
    9. A real time point-and-click with a "living" protagonist (capable of their own decisions) a la Pac-Man 2
    10. A linear 3D platformer (more Mario 3D World than Crash) with a character who can fling off walls like Mario Odyssey's Pokio (woodpecker) character.
    11. A sokoban puzzle game focused on mirrors, where certain objects will react to them in different ways.
    Wario Wario Wario
    I've joked before about how the modern Nickelodeon logo's backstory (redesigned because it looked too cluttered on a business card) sounds like something a Nicktoon villain would do - but as it turns out, its designer shares a name with one of the most iconic Nick villains.
    Wario Wario Wario
    take Oil Panic, add Waft, sprinkles in a tiny pinch of Rebel's Guard, and you've got First Fart.
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    Dang…I think I might be maining those eeediots
    They seem to have the best moveset for me so far out of the ones we’ve seen. Still definitely interested in Reptar, though…
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    Okay, so it seems like Ren and Stimpy play alot more like Wario., which is perfect for me.
    Aerials that cover their whole body much like PM or Ultimate NAir.
    A DAirStrong similar to Wario's Ground Pound DAir in PM.
    A DashStrong that uses a vehicle like Wario Bike which can also be comboed off of.
    Even their Down Special is a hybrid of a Counter plus Wario Waft.

    I love this SO much.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Lizzie from Rampage's existence is kinda astonishing. She debuted only a few months after Samus as a female protagonist (villain protagonist in this case) in the same hypermacho gaming environment, but her gender isn't a surprise nor a personality/design trait: it's just told to you casually on the CSS and that's that!
    Wario Wario Wario
    1. Turning Mario Kart into Nintendo Kart
    2. Localising Mother 3
    3. Nintendo buying back Rare
    The Satanic trinity of terrible ideas Nintendo fans think they want.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Still can't believe Nick Brawl got a dual wielder swordfighter before Smash

    They literally only have one swordfighter and he's still more unique on a conceptual level than 57% of Smash's swordies (I counted.)
    Wario Wario Wario
    Sometimes I like to Google oddly specific yet extremely obvious puns and see what shows up - there are way more dental-themed cartoon episodes titled "An Inconvenient Tooth" than I could've ever expected.
    Wario Wario Wario
    That axolotl from SMG4 is the ugliest thing I have ever laid eyes on. I thought they couldn't top the palm tree guy, but somehow they did.
    Wario Wario Wario
    I am so worried for NASB's post-launch future after those leaks.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Rhett: "I don't think this is a very smart thumbnail idea, Matt"
    MatPat: "More clicks means more donations, buddy! Positivity gets people clicking!" lights cigar and adjusts monocole
    Link: "No, we can't do that, people will think our cause isn't serio-"
    Odd1sout: "Hush! you know this is a publicity stunt, right?"
    Devil Odd1sout: "Hey, smile for the camera!"
    Rhett: "Well, I guess charity work is more important than integrity..." shrugs
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    You joke but the idea of Odd1sout taking charity stuff just as publicity stunt seems worryingly fitting based on the few stuff I've seen of him.
    Wario Wario Wario
    This, my friends, is why I'm glad Nick got a proper platfighter instead of CN.
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    CN: "We need to cancel this project because kids nowadays aren't familiar with this IP"

    Creator: "Then let's do reruns to get back the memori-"

    CN:
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    The thing is, I don't think kids would be lost on anything if these classic shows aired reruns. Kids don't care about a 4:3 aspect ratio or animation cel dust particles - case in point, in the early 2010s I went to a boarding school with kids younger than me. (I was probably about 13 to 15 and the kids I shared residence with were about 7 to 10) At the time CN were rerunning Billy & Mandy and the Eds during school hours, and we got to watch CN at lunch because you know, boarding school, and the kids loved the classic shows just as much as Adventure Time and Regular Show.

    In fact, there are fandoms forming online among younger generations for older cartoons - the Banana Splits horror movie got a lot of the FNAF audience into the original Banana Splits, a fandom that then grew even bigger with the release of Jellystone. If kids today can enjoy Hanna Barbera of all things, who's to say they won't enjoy a bit of Dexter's Lab or Fosters? To be fair, Boomerang US are rerunning the 90s and 2000s shows currently, so even if Tunes and Scooby are taking up a majority of the schedule there's still hope for these classics to be passed down by generations like those aforementioned IPs have been for decades - really it's the execs' call, but if I was in their shoes I'd put new Looney Tunes, Flintstones, and Scooby-Doo content on syndication to local and startup channels, then use Boomerang as nostalgic rerun heaven, allowing new concepts to run wild on main CN.
    Wario Wario Wario
    I've always found the logic of boycott culture, especially its more radical side, ridiculous - if a company exploits their employees, and enough people boycott to make a dent in their profits, that'll mean those employess will be paid less at best and will be out of a job at worst. All the company is gonna see is that the franchises you avoided buying aren't profitable anymore, and the companies that often get this response like EA and Activision are really infamous for killing series at their peak while refusing to sell them - humans being treated like humans is obviously more important than Spyro 4, but boycotts won't help either. True activism, making sure the head honchos understand the errors of their ways by being vocal in places where they will hear, will help everyone.
    Wario Wario Wario
    I generally do not like duplicate characters in games where characters are cosmetic... but I can make an exception for this lovely bunch
    Wario Wario Wario
    I will never understand why people like unlockable content in fighting games and shooters. Other genres like kart racers where characters are cosmetic I can understand, but in the internet age of spoilers; DLC; and viral marketing there's no room for unlockable characters and stages in games where each character plays different.
    Torgo the Bear
    Torgo the Bear
    I feel like it gives you something to do. Something to work towards.

    Although when it comes to fighting games I do prefer to have all the characters at least from the beginning.
    Wario Wario Wario
    HEY, YOU'RE PRETTY MATURE THAN I THOUGHT - GOOD GOING

    Considering all the PaRappa songs were written in English by Japanese people, it's impressive that there's only one instance of bad grammar.
    Wario Wario Wario
    A small part of me hopes Daisy really is missing from Party Superstars so Nintendo will see the passion people have for her and start giving her bigger roles - Waluigi was absent from Kart 7 and because of backlash hasn't missed a Mario game where he could logically appear since, (and has become a lot more prominent in marketing) even if he has stayed as another multiplayer option.
    Wario Wario Wario
    If Crash got in Smash, I hope the Twinsanity tracks either aren't remixed or have remixed and original forms coexist - I really want to know how people who either don't play Crash or aren't familiar with the games between CTR and the renakes would react to this song:
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