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  • Decided to listen to the Sonic Schoolhouse OST out of pure curiosity. Very much a slow, dreamlike, "Fun Colors and Shapes: The Game", feel to it.
    It's alright, no standout tracks though. Except this one, which would feel right at home as a menu theme in a Sonic game.
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    Mr. Peepee
    Mr. Peepee
    Sega should have re-released Sonic Schoolhouse in Sonic Gems Collection
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    I would've liked to see Kncukles' Chaotix and the Game Gear games too.
    Games I'm thinking of picking up:
    Sonic Lost World, as I know I won't enjoy it but I want to be able to say I played it so that I can have a real debate about it with people.
    Classic Megaman LC, because I enjoyed X LC so thoroughly.
    3D All Stars, probably gonna get it secondhand because the last thing I'll do is support that anti-consumer decision.
    Team Sonic Racing since Silver and Blaze are finally playable again (even if they're in cars and paired with Vector for seemingly no reason) and it looks like they're putting a decent amount of effort into the world of Sonic again.
    Uncharted Lost Legacy since 4 is one of my all time favorite games.
    Ridley64
    Ridley64
    I thought Forces was a decent amount. They got an effective antagonist, OC's that you can project on, a good Chemical Plant Zone, and cool bosses and minibosses. Some of the levels were amazing. The only problem is that to defeat the final boss I had to button mash with both hands.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    My problems with Forces were the reliance on what came before and how the levels felt like a straight line with some curves. None of the characters controlled very well, and it tries to tell a darker story without understanding why the story of Adventure 2 worked. But it has some great qualities and I see why people like it.
    Shadow would be such a hectic character to be unveiled in FP2. The community would be toxic for weeks.
    -very similar to Sonic in their own series, making people feel cheated
    -would anger those who thought AT's deconfirmed
    -would anger those who wanted Waluigi or Issac or Zero instead
    -would anger Sonic fans who wanted someone else much more
    -would anger Sega fans who wanted a different franchise to be repped
    -would anger Shadow's haters
    -would anger non-Sonic fans who hate the series
    And I would be watching the Chaos (pun intended) unfold.
    R
    RetrogamerMax
    Regardless if Shadow was unique, semi-clone, or a Echo, a lot of people would be thrilled to see him in. There was a reason he was in the Grinch leak afterall.
    RealPokeFan11
    RealPokeFan11
    I don't really see much hate coming from a potential Shadow reveal outside of some Waluigi fans. Disappointment is always possible no matter who gets revealed, but I feel like said disappointment might come from his moveset, especially if he's made to be a Sonic echo. Shadow can do much more than copying Sonic. That's how I felt with Dark Samus.
    ZephyrZ
    ZephyrZ
    ^^Well to be fair everyone and there dog where speculating he'd be in as an echo at the time, so it'd look suspicious if he wasn't included in that hoax. Ironic how that turned out.

    He's still got a ton of fans, and I think for every Isacc/Waluigi fan who'd be angry it wasn't their pick there'd be two more who'd be happy their most wanted is on the table. I think Shadow would get mixed reception at worst.
    I want Waluigi's neutral special to be where he does any neutral special in the game at random. He could do Homing Attack, Metal Blade, Fireball, Darkest Lariat-anything. And it's random every time.
    Yeah it would be a competitive nightmare, but a funny one.
    Apparently Ben Drowned just ended like, a week ago?
    Alright, I've been out of the loop long enough, starting this weekend I'm gonna see what this series is all about.
    "If you like a bad game, then honestly who cares?"
    -Alpharad, 2020
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    I don't really watch this guy anymore but if he actually said this, then he has my utmost respect cuz he's right. Like what you like even if it sucks. No rule or law saying you can only like good games. I wish more people could be less insecure about enjoying media and just admitting when something they like isn't that good.
    As cool as Classic Sonic would be in terms of gameplay, putting him in Smash is (almost) the absolute worst thing that could happen to the series right now.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Thinking about it now, I probably should've specified "could happen to the Sonic series". I guess it wouldn't be that bad for Smash.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    The only issue I have with using classic sonic is that classic sonic can’t do some of the things modern sonic does, but modern sonic can do some of the things classic sonic does.

    Also I kinda feel like the sonic community and the game so themselves would be a lot better if there was less of a distinction between classic and modern sonic.
    It feels like the fandom is constantly arguing if Sonic with slightly lighter shade of blue is better than sonic with slightly darker shade of blue
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Personally I think it would be best if Sonic got a moveset overhaul in the next game that pulled from his entire series for inspiration, and you could choose a lighter blue, black eyes alternate costume, which would be Classic's representation aside from spirits and stages.
    Me: Yeah, I've gotten close to beating Mega Man X a while back. Surely I can do it again!
    Also me: is stuck on Armored Armadillo's stage for two hours like an idiot before I realize he has a weakness like every other MM boss
    Spongeboob
    Spongeboob
    What was this? I can't see the video.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    It’s the (coming soon) episode 4 of Sonic and Tails R, a fan-series made by Emi Jones that features voice actors from the official Sonic cast like Ryan Drummond. And it’s teased that Pete Capella will return as Silver in episode 4, which is why I’m happy about it.
    Holy ***t, Bowser is an S tier amiibo?
    Aright guess I'm going to do amiibo tournaments now. Sounds fun and apparently I main (and have a figure of) one of the best characters in the meta.
    EDIT: Oh, apparently he's so good a lot of tournaments straight up ban him.
    Oh well. This will still be fun.
    Got 2nd at last weekend's tournament. Basically the same place I've been in for a while. This time it's more impressive, because while there were only 10 people, I did manage to 2-0 Vika, our best Pikachu and second-place-holder of our most recent major tournament. Lost Grand Finals to the same Sonic main as the week before, and the week before, etc. He's a demon of sorts for me. Hopefully I can find a way to take him down next week, or at the very least not get 3-0'd.
    The question is inarguable if Sega should make Sonic Adventure 3. It's been clamored for for years, it's gotten the least attention of any gameplay style and yet remains the second most beloved, the name alone would sell millions upon millions, and it could remind people why Sonic Adventure 2 was so good.
    The only thing is, can they? Can they possibly make a sequel to a beloved twenty year old duology and somehow not **** it up? I think that's the question Sega needs to ask themselves before they start work on something like that. They can't just do Adventure 3 out of obligation.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    Is...that supposed to be a criticism of the idea? Of course it's going to be a 3D Sonic game, that much is obvious.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Well yeah, obviously. I’m just saying that I personally don’t think there would be much special about Sonic Adventure 3 like people say there would be.

    I can also definitely see Sega missing the point about what people liked about Sonic Adventure 3, or not really fixing the problems with the older Sonic Adventure games. This has happened a lot in the past and I can see it happening again
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    I definitely agree-I can't pretend slapping a title on the game is going to fix the problems immediately. Like I said in my OP, they can't do it unless they know they can do it well.
    Don't get why people say ACNH doesn't deserve a GOTY nomination just because it's not a 50 hour long single player experience with cutting edge graphics and a revolutionary combat system.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Meanwhile, us Hades fans are cautiously optimistic about an indie sneaking up.
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    I haven't played that game, but from what I'm told from someone whom has, that game has done a good number of inconvenient things.

    Tried Animal Crossing before myself and I really don't find as much appeal in how islands are so small and the repetition of doing chores for Sanrio wannabes.

    I'd argue Fantasy Life is a much better game of that genre.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    For me personally the inconveniences are just those-inconveniences. I haven't been back to the game in a hot minute, but I really loved it despite those. But yeah, I think being able to craft wherever you want and other small fixes like that would go a long way.
    This is something Nintendo just didn't need to interfere with. If they chose to ignore Big House's Melee tournament, then there would be a lot less trouble and Nintendo would have a way better reputation for letting a big and sponsored tournament use a fanmade online service.
    Yes, Slippi has a Patreon. You can play 100, 1,000, 10,000 hours of Slippi and don't have to pay a cent. This is an optional thing. What's more, Sega is totally fine with this kind of thing. There's no written law saying "Nintendo must take down everything with a Patreon." What's more, did I mention Nintendo is the richest company in Japan? Slippi wouldn't do anything to harm them. It's not IP protection either, all Slippi is is online mode for a 19 year old game.
    I don't care what anyone says. Nintendo's just trying to kill this game. I may not play it, but I send my condolences to Melee fans, and luck that their community continues to thrive.
    Meanwhile in the competitive Smash scene, Nintendo is being Nintendo once again.
    Once I finish Astral Chain I have to make a moveset for Akira. My idea would be that if you hold B, you can move your Legion at free will, potentially trapping up your opponent in the chain or keeping them at bay from across the stage. This character would be toxic as heck and I love that idea.
    Playing Astral Chain currently. Much needed break from my unbreakable norm of platformers, platformers, platformers, and Smash. It's really fun so far, but I am keeping it on casual mode as I'm a noob to the action games genre.
    Saw something the other day, someone asking why Shadow was a hedgehog of all things. Well, here ya' go:

    Ancient Echidna mural, depicting a hedgehog with raised-up quills using the power of the Chaos Emerald, which is being held by a mustached figure with a triangle nose and glasses.

    As told by the picture above, Gerald was obsessed with ancient Echidna society, so he probably stumbled across the mural at some point. While it clearly shows Sonic retrieving the Master Emerald from Eggman at the end of Sonic 3&K, Gerald must have misinterpreted it as the ancient Echidna tribe having a prophecy that he would create a hedgehog with the power of the Chaos Emerald (one with raised quills, might I add.) He must have been running tests on the prototype Ultimate Life Form around this time. Since that one was slow and unintelligent, and needed a huge life support pack with a major weak point to survive, a new, small, better form would be much more convenient. Plus, hedgehogs are very fast and strong in this universe, which would help if this Ultimate Life Form is to save humanity.
    Sorry for the lengthy explanation. It just really grinds my gears when people call a good story bad for minuscule things like this.
    Thanks to Sonic Adventure DX, I'm currently playing through 8-bit Sonic 1 on my PC. From the first zone, here's my thoughts.
    It's not the classic some made it out to be, nor is it the dumpster fire others proclaimed it as. It's pretty fun. Not 1-1 with the Genesis games but a heck of a lot better then Generations Classic was. Can't wait to beat it as I really love the artstyle and controls.
    Well, I was gonna get a used DS + some games for my birthday...but damn! Why are the games so expensive?
    Gonna get flamed for this, but...
    People who hate Shadow for the sole reason of his edginess and him trying too hard to be cool, are just the modern day equivalent of the old lady from the Sonic 1 commercial.
    "Why can't he be more like that nice boy Sonic?"
    Chicken Little has one of those plots that has me convinced that the writers had a few short days to write it, and-instead of having an outline and a plan and all that jazz-they just wrote the script from the opening to the ending without stopping. The movie goes all over the place and seemingly has no end goal in mind. I think that's why I love it so much.
    Robotnik sounds cool and all, but I don't understand the people who get mad at his name being Eggman in the modern-day run of games.
    I mean, his inventions are constantly being named after eggs.
    He looks like an egg.
    His most iconic inventions are named the "Death Egg" and "Death Egg Robo".
    Every game since Sonic Adventure (that I can remember) has had some kind of egg-related pun.
    His name was always Eggman in Japanese.
    Metal Shop X
    Metal Shop X
    Nostalgia.

    That's really it, some peoples just prefer what they were introduce as kid, or think Eggman sound dumb/childish and thus stick with the more "cool" name made-up in the west.

    Note that I like both names, but some peoples take the matter wayyyyy too seriously....then again, that's the Sonic fanbase for ya.
    Wario Wario Wario
    Wario Wario Wario
    "Robotnik" was basically just a way of cashing in on cold war paranoia - Russian for "worker", so while I think Robotnik rolls off the tongue better and is much more threating, Eggman makes more sense for marketing to a post-cold-war society. Having Eggman be a nickname while Robotnik is his real name is a nice compromise, but I don't know why the localisers abandoned it after Adventure 2.
    Ridley64
    Ridley64
    Merchandising! Merchandising! Where the real money from 06 is made! Sonic, the oc! Sonic, the edgy rival! Sonic, the fat guy named Eggman!!!! The kids love this one.
    Fun fact: the reason that the Sonic R characters don't control that great is because, before they even were approached by Sega, Traveler's Tales were working on a Formula 1 racing game. When Sega asked them to make a 3D Sonic game on the Saturn with a pretty demanding deadline, they found a workaround and decided to make a racing game, since that wouldn't be as difficult or time consuming as something more akin to Sonic Adventure and they already had an engine for a racing game. So, the reason Sonic and his palls don't control too great is because they're basically F1 cars.
    So weird that people argue over Sonic's limb length or eye color when no one talks about if Mario's overalls should be red or blue. Where's the Classic Mario and Modern Mario enthusiasts?
    When it comes to fan content in official games, I think it needs to be strictly regulated.
    That being said, a particular conversation in the Wah thread got me thinking: what if Eggette-the fan character interpreted from the game's Flying Battery Act 2 boss-got in a potential sequel, either as a boss or playable character, or just a small reference?

    I see no reason why not. Sonic Mania is basically an official fangame. Though I'm of the opinion that Amy and the remaining Chaotix members should get in first, Eggette would be an addition I would welcome with open arms. And if Sonic Forces can reference Sanic, we can get a nod to a fan creation in Mania 2, if it's a thing.
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