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  • 20 hours into Shin Megami Tensei 5, got myself a King Frost and made myself a Basilisk that inherited Bloody Glee and Beast Eye. Those are no doubt going to be worth investing in for long term.

    Should probably play something else to avoid getting burnt out tho. Game's so addicting.
    Been grinding out early game of Shin Megami Tensei 5 and having an absolute blast. Didn't struggle as much as I thought I would on the bosses on Normal Difficulty cuz I know how to play these games. Love how the world looks so huge, open and gorgeous in spite of it being a desolate apocalyptic wasteland. I also love how I get rewarded for exploring every nook and cranny in such a huge world.

    Speaking of big maps, one friend has been playing Yo-Kai Watch games and keeps coming for me for advice either cuz he gets stuck on bosses or gets lost in how big the maps are.
    He just finished Yo-Kai Watch 2 and can't believe how big it is and also can't believe it when I tell him Yo-Kai Watch 3 is twice as huge.

    Both are very unlike SWSH in that regard lol
    According to my friend whom looked into the leaks, Jirachi and Shaymin can be obtained if you have save data for SWSH.

    Guess I can also add that as another item on the long list of ideas and concepts modern Pokemon games are using from Yo-Kai Watch games lmao.

    I also really can't help but find it funny this game managed to get leaked way more easily than Sun and Moon did.
    According to my friend, you shouldn't need Events. No idea on the save file tho. I would imagine the save file just has to be there at all like with Yo-Kai Watch games or the LGEP Gigantamaxes. Imo requiring a fully completed save file would be bad game design but Pokemon is chock full of bad game design that I wouldn't put it past them.
    YW didnt invented giving you stuff or characters for connecting for other games LMAO, even nintendo-only wise previous pokemon spinoff did it and so did things like even Mario Kart wii, its been around for multiple console gens so by that logic yw ripped off hundreds of games before it entered its flop phase its now in. Love when the "hatedom" who hates pokemon solely for nostalgia tries so hard to find issues to justify the game they dont know is secretly "bad" they prove they never played any games, like those kids who hate beautiful games like SWSH because some clickbaiter gaslighted them over trees and they fell for it (but anyone who tries to downplay the massive hit that is pokemon by not admitting how good it is by design or it wouldnt have gotten as big as it is, even pretending its part of some bigger monster collecting genre who cant even compare, like the issue riddled YW, should learn not to treat games you havent tried as a bitter ex), even downplaying it against very ugly games like YW series wich I used to play too

    For the user Torgo the Bear asking for how it works:
    just the save data from all being said, quite a breath of fresh air as events go but won't convince to get the game anytime for a couple years since I dont care for the ugly chibi toy overworld and ain't nostalgic for dp enough to just replay the same game, but great for those who do
    Dude, I just admitted to being wrong on that with past examples. Chill.

    What "flop phase?" Mobile games are among the highest grossing for that series and they keep getting updates.

    If SWSH is "beautiful" then YKW games are the work of gods given the animation quality and visual fidelity on top of fixing every major issue with 2 and 3 while Pokemon just creates more problems with itself.

    Pretty much all the issues that continue to plague Pokemon games do not exist in YKW with animation quality, keeping and improving casual content and an active competitive community from a competitive metagame so deep, fast and rich in variety that players continue to find new strategies for it to this day.

    Pokemon by design is just a poor attempt at Dragon Quest 5 that could barely function with how RBY works. It's just proof a bad game can sell with enough marketing and nostalgia.

    Sales do not make a good game. It's foolish to pretend so. Sonic 06 made better sales than Wario Land 4. Both games are platformers so the comparison stands. One game is considered a stain on its franchise and the other has an entire book written about it in terms of good game design.

    I played SWSH. It stinks. Played every game since RBY too cuz I love Pokemon.

    Dragon Quest Monsters, Shin Megami Tensei, Digimon and Yo-Kai Watch among others are monumentally better.
    Looking forward to Shin Megami Tensei 5 being another modern monster collector with actually good overworld visuals and animation work unlike the trash heap that is SWSH.

    Just like Dragon Quest Monsters' 3DS games

    And Monster Hunter Stories 2

    And of course Yo-Kai Watch
    "All Yo-Kai Watch fans must be arrogant jerks because of you alone."

    Okay. Guess all Smash fans are child predators and Pokemon fans are too cuz of people like Xenochu.

    Being an arrogant jerk is certainly the lesser of the two evils compared to being a child predator. No idea why people want to play a game like that where they've already lost.

    What's funny to me is that people that try to play that card on me are always repeating and insisting that I hate Pokemon and I hate Smash, trying to make that decision FOR me, so there goes my fan status and any status as a child predator that came with it.

    It must be really sad to have so little empathy that you'll generalize people so unfairly like that.

    If you wanna accuse people of acting like they're some kind of spokesperson or representative, Joe Merrick does that all the time. More like Schmoe Merrick lol.
    I like how someone that never actually played Yo-Kai Watch games had to grasp for straws to claim a game they never played wasn't hard by trying to make up an imaginary person that would say the bosses are actually easy when no such person that has actually played these games exists.

    Setups like this are hilarious memes in the first place BECAUSE of how obscenely hard the bosses have been, the fact you have to go through all kinds of trials and difficulty to even get the equipment shown on top of getting Auras and the fact of how easy it i for Yo-Kai like Pandle to die so easily.

    Game's hard. Get over it and git gud.

    I had this conversation with a friend lately that made me realize a few things.

    Yo-Kai Watch 4 is honestly severely overhyped by the vast majority of westerners that have never actually played Yo-Kai Watch games.

    They just drool at the footage of the real time combat even though that's been a feature in several games for several years now with Busters.

    Then they go on and on about how much they wish Yo-Kai Watch 4 came out in English.

    Having played YKW4, I can fairly say it's really not that good. I have an immense amount of issues with it.

    There's no guarantee YKW4 will ever be in English anyway, so instead of focusing on something you can't immediately change, just focus on what you CAN change.

    What you CAN change is that you can get yourself a Nintendo 3DS and then get a larger SD card and then download a digital copy of Yo-Kai Watch 3 which is easily the absolute best and the absolute biggest game in the series and has already been available in English for several years and is certainly a way better game than 4 anyway.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    Fine if you really care I’ll elaborate further:

    A while ago you made a post saying how good it is to be open minded and implied that people on this site aren’t open minded at all but that’s really hypocritical. I don’t want to comment on literally everything after what was said at first but in the beginning venus was just saying you should branch out and not always talk about the same thing and you got really defensive and demonstrated a really closed mindset.

    Look, you ultimately can post whatever you want here but when you’re pretty much constantly publicly talking negative about something it gets really tiring. Especially when a lot of people like those things. And judging from the fact that not many people like those posts, I don’t think many people care either. If you care about open mindedness you should try to take criticisms better. You don’t have to agree with everyone but just stop shutting everyone down, and maybe take a moment to consider if what they’re saying might be true. I’m sure there are some bad ones but were making some pretty fair criticisms of you.

    Also, people are just saying they’re someowhat put off from playing the games because of how you talk about them (which is a natural reaction) they’re not generalizing a fandom because of you and I don’t see how the fandom even comes into this because, correct me if I’m wrong, but did people even mention it here?
    Pokelego999 Pokelego999 I can take a minute or two out of my day after completing errands, partying late on a Friday night with friends and getting ahead on my college homework to leave a comment.

    Doesn't really matter how much time has passed cuz I have a life outside of Smashboards and the time matters even less if you didn't have actual counterarguments then and still don't.

    Yiptap Yiptap Like I've said, if you didn't care then you wouldn't reply. I do care and it's my profile post, so I'll reply as I please and you really can't stop me.

    Champion of Hyrule Champion of Hyrule Cuz they kinda aren't. People that blatantly ignore evidence and facts presented in an argument are not open-minded so it ain't hypocritical. Doesn't matter if it's on this site as I've seen or the next site. You choosing to interpret it like that instead of asking for clarification is pretty close-minded and hypocritical, don't ya think?

    It's not realky a defense that people are allowed to talk about video games they like on a video game forums site. It's a fact. That's not close-minded and like I said, I don't use Smashboards that much so judging how much I talk about a subject on a small sample when you don't know anything about me is, as I've said, close-minded. I talk about other games. Whether or not I do so on Smashboards is none of your business and if you cared that much to hear me talk on other subjects, you'd ask questions like an open minded person does.

    People not caring about a topic I choose to discuss or getting tired isn't my responsibility. If I'm tired of certain content, I ignore it and move on and do something better with my time.

    That's their problem. Internet likes really don't amount to much but if you want to play that card, I certainly have plenty of likes on my video essays on the good game design behind Yo-Kai Watch with an almost non-existant dislike ratio and I listen to the criticisms given through comments on those videos to make even better ones in the future and I'm proud of the open-mindedness I've been able to take advantage of to push for even greater quality.

    Besides, I really don't care if they don't care. I'll do what I want so long as it falls within the rules. Posting things just to get the approval of strangers is the kind of thing a shallow loser does instead of being yourself, being honest and upfront. The moment I speak up for myself is the moment I've already won. Why on earth would I want the approval of a bunch of strangers that act like they know me just cuz they get mad over some game forum post? They'd have to be REALLY close-minded and REALLY full of themselves if they I'm gonna post to please them for a second when they do something that petty.

    I kinda find it funny how there are numerous people out there that get angry at me for years for no good reason haven't taken the time to raid and dislike bomb me, not that they can anymore. If likes are so important as you want to play them off to be, then the small fry amounts on this site really don't mean anything in the grand scheme of what I'm doing then compared to amounts I get from praising the game on YouTube while casually throwing shade at Pokemon.

    Being silent and saying nothing isn't criticism cuz no criticism was actually given. You can't take something better if absolutely nothing was said and since I've taken my YouTube comment and like ratio so well to improve off it, I'm once again ten steps ahead in the advice given.

    Or maybe you should consider it doesn't take much for me to shut them down and provide proof, facts and evidence that debunk them so well cuz what they're saying is UNTRUE.

    Yeah, they did. Them being put off ain't my problem either and I'll still say that's them being weak. I've brought up the example numerous times but people choose to still ignore it so close-mindedly cuz they know it proves them wrong but I will continue to play SMT games and like them in spite of this awful individual I came across that also happened to play it because letting other people control what you choose to play and enjoy like that is weak and life is too short for that and even if they are put off, like I said I don't mind gatekeeping even though there was the false claim earlier that gatekeeping is my job. Guess I'm just ABOVE nature for choosing to be like that instead of being naturally close-minded, I guess.

    So once again, if anything, I've already followed your advice ten steps ahead of the game, have way more likes to fall back on to show that open-mindedness from the improvement I've gleamed from it or your advice isn't worth following just to please complete strangers because that's what a close-minded person does.
    Honestly, coming back to think about it, expecting other people to post to please you instead of letting them post for themselves is extremely entitled and selfish and being selfish to begin with is close-minded.

    If you can't tolerate opposing viewpoints at all tonthat point, you should probably get over yourselves.

    Ironic how when you think about it, you guys are the ones pushing the whole "my way or the highway" that I was accused of.
    Updating my monster collector tier list.

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    So do I. There's just no reason for those flaws to be around tho.
    Part of the reason Yo-Kai Watch has such a high placing is because those games offer many of the same positives with none of the needlessly compromising or dumb negatives that plague Pokemon games.

    Still love Pokemon to bits bit it does NOT deserve a higher placing.
    I haven't heard of the majority of these games actually. What are they about, besides monster collection obviously.
    Yo-Kai Watch is about a normal kid in everyday life dealing with abnormal activities invovling demons, possession, death, Dante's Inferno and more in a humorous way.

    World of Final Fantasy is about 2 giant amnesiacs trying to find their family and meeting iconic Final Fantasy characters along the way.

    Shin Megami Tensei is about using computer programs to summon demons as the whole world crumbles around you as the apocalypse comes to be.

    Dragon Quest Monsters is about your average medieval fantasy setting with a dark demon lord while also engaging in a monster tournament.

    Digimon Story Cyber Sleuth is about being an illegal hacker using his skills to help people solve mysteries and fix problems using digital monsters.

    Disc Creatures is about journeying through a retro world where humans and sapient monsters live side by side.

    Monster Hunter Stories is about a young villager travelling out into the world to stop some serious natural disasters in a world where taming monsters is a taboo while hunting them is the norm.

    Monster Sanctuary takes place in a mystical post-apocalyptic world where magic and monsters roam free and you explore a sanctuary filled with monsters in a Metroivania platformer style.

    Moco Moco Friends is about cutesy colorful magical girl shoujo setting filled with plushies and pastries and using magic to make others happy.

    Fossil Fighters is about a special resort where technology has allowed for the revival of dinosaurs and other paleozoological specimens for tournament venues and paranormal activity ensues.

    Nexomon plays like a DS era Pokemon game but a far more open world to explore as man tries to force the balance of nature into the palm of its hand.
    Now that I've at least played through the story of Monster Hunter Stories 2, I'll give my thoughts.

    Beautiful big overworld spaces

    Love how you can explore them riding monsters

    Animations are exceptional

    Appreciate that you can skip cutscenes and text.

    Game isn't easy

    Love that you get rewarded fir investing kn everything including doing quests.

    Great music.

    Overall, an absolutely fantastic monster collector.

    Would recommend.
    Knowing how much Pokemon Go sucks under Niantic compared to games like Yo-Kai Watch World, I'm not gonna be surprised if Pikmin Bloom falls in the same boat but if Pikmin fans don't show interest, Nintendo will be stupid enough to think no one cares about Pikmin anymore.
    Nick All Star Brawl's online is such a different experience.
    Unlike Ultimate, I don't feel like I want to rip my hair out.
    I actually want to play more even when I lose.
    This college semester I took a public speaking class.
    Probably one of my favorite classes since I love to hear myself talk.
    Got to give speeches on why Yo-Kai Watch is an infinitely better game than Pokemon and how loli drawings don't actually cause any crimes.
    Always so reassuring how people out in public are open minded to those that can back up what they have to say.
    Passing the class with an almost perfect score.
    Just one more class and then I'll graduate with a degree.
    It makes me laugh a little when Smash fans bring up "muh polish" when comparing Nickelodeon All Star Brawl to Smash Ultimate.

    Smash 4 fans went on and on about polish in Smash 4 days when comparing it to Melee but they aren't playing 4 anymore. They're playing Ultimate despite its visuals being worse while Melee lived on.

    Should another Smash game come out in the future and Ultimate players immediately drop Ultimate for that new "polished" toy while Melee and NASB live on, I won't be surprised at all.
    Nah. 4 has more of "muh polish" in other areas besides visuals. I just bring that one up mainly cuz it's a more common complaint. At least 4's online was free and it had Smash Run and didn't suffer from input delay.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    I think “polish” in terms of gameplay mainly applies to visuals and how the gameplay feels, so gamemodes like the online system and smash run aren’t really “polish”

    Also, I’ll admit I haven’t played it yet but from what I’ve heard and what people have said, NASB does have some issues with visuals and gameplay that could be fixed with more polish. That’s a leginitimite criticism and I don’t think it really helps to suggest everyone making them are just salty smash fans
    I never said they couldn't benefit from improving the game. I just think it's hypocritical considering the circumstances. They just recently patched out things like Mikey's air camping and Sandy's infinite, so it's not like they aren't doing that anyway with "muh precious polish".
    Something funny happened to me today.
    I have some good friends that invite me to streams and play multiplayer games with them both in parties online and even friends that invite me to events offline.
    Yet in plenty of online discussions, I find these absolute losers that say "you must be fun at parties" when they have nothing of actual value to add or say just cuz they disagree with something I say that I can fairly back up. Considering how many good friends I have that want me around, yeah. I am. Now make an actual counterargument lol.
    Another such person said such dumb stuff and it really helps me appreciate the friends I have that invite me to things.
    Hearing the "complaints" about NASB feels familiar.
    Champion of Hyrule
    Champion of Hyrule
    What are the complaints you’re talking about?
    Janky animation for one despite said person claiming the game wasn't finished over some rare Ice Climbers glitch in Ultimate that made some janky animations.
    I remember one person even saying the game is "too fast and will drive players away." lol.
    Considering the fact Nintendo tried to cancel a Melee tournament where the money would have gone to cancer donations, I would NOT be surprised if they specifically made their last character reveal October 5th JUST for Nickelodeon All Star Brawl making their blood boil that competitive Smash fans are excited about it but Nintendo can't give the game a cease and desist.
    Really didn't care about anything shown in the Direct.
    All the games I'm already excited for, I know are coming out soon anyway with Nickelodeon All Star Brawl, Shin Megami Tensei 5, Super Monkey Ball: Banana Mania and Mario Party SuperStars.
    Unless the final Fighter in Ultimate is Waluigi or Jibanyan, I'm extremely unlikely to care about that either.
    So about Super Monkey Ball Banana Mania's "paid DLC", it seems they pulled a bit of a fast one on us. Now I'm happier I pre-ordered it.

    It's no exaggeration at all to say "Orcanos is the Landorus-T of Competitive Yo-Kai Watch 2"

    There's almost no reason to not run him. He has the highest HP stat in all of Yo-Kai Watch 2 and the 2nd highest Defense stat and his Strength stat is also super high. He gets a Skill that boosts his Defense just for being front and center and being Tough Tribe makes it so his Defense can get even higher.

    Orcanos is a super powerful wall in YKW2 meta.

    So how come this guy goes from being everywhere in YKW2 meta to being nowhere to be seen in YKW3 meta?

    He wasn't nerfed at all. His stats appear to be exactly the same in 3.
    The reason you don't see him as much in YKW3 meta is actually simple.

    The biggest being that in 3, magic attacks ignore Defense, making magic attackers in general much stronger compared to how they were in 2. Now any Yo-Kai that is a magic attacker with a high Spirit stat is turned into a powerful wallbreaker.

    Having high Defense isn't as good as it used to be.

    Orcanos's Skill was also changed slightly. It still has to be front and center to buff its Defense but now it has to be on the center TILE. Now it has to work more to get that buff especially since the center tile is the easiest to cover with Soultimates. Plus, the grid being 3x3 and standing in the center, you can't defend BOTH your teammates with a vertical link like you would with tons of other Tanks. This stuff made it so Orcanos had to compete with way more S Ranks to justify its spot on a team. It still has incredible stats and a good Skill but everything changed around it so the stuff it could usually get away with no longer works.

    The new Dokev trailer came out and it got me super excited.
    Of course, right on schedule, Pokemon fans crawl out of the woodwork to defend the honor of Pokemon as another monster collector game had the audacity to not only exist but look a million times better.
    Alot of Pokemon fans sure love to say you can't compare Pokemon to other games in the genre when Pokemon is at an obvious, glaring disadvantage.
    From what we've seen anyway, Dokev has way more in common with Yo-Kai Watch than Pokemon anyway.
    I just want to point out the fact Yo-Kai Watch games have like 4 victory animations for each monster and most of them have the monsters dancing.

    Pokemon BDSP is using the walking animations to "dance" in Contests.

    Yo-Kai Watch reuses animations too and they're monumentally better by a landslide. Why should I cut the multibillion dollar company ANY slack when the smaller company with way less money can do the same thing far better by an astronomical level accompanied by the fact games like Yo-Kai Watch 3 has ALL past monsters in a single game totalling it to 752 and all that game's DLC is free?

    Yo-Kai Watch makes Pokemon look like a joke, so I will TREAT Pokemon like a joke.

    For the record, my statements were entirely satire. I've still be on the soap box that Game Freak is lazy as sin in regards to the visuals of their games. They just don't have the excuse for it. When Monster Hunter Stories 2 is basically Pokémon on crack and has loads of unique animations and such it's hard to take anything Game Freak says seriously. I get they have a lot of creatures now but this is something they could have remedied over time, even if only a handful of Pokémon got that treatment per installment until everyone had some unique stuff about them during combat and such.
    Sarcasm is like a foreign language when it's in text format. Apologies.

    That's another reason why I praise Yo-Kai Watch so highly. Monsters actually manage to remain unique from each other in combat both animation wise and metagame wise.

    You can take just about any complaint common to Pokemon games and you can bet that that problem doesn't exist in Yo-Kai Watch games.

    Monster Hunter Stories 2 is also a good one as far as the large number of monster collectors I play go.
    I really don't agree with Ranked matches not being available in BDSP or LA. Ideally, you should be striving to make a better single player AND multiplayer experience which is part of the reason I praise YKW so much for providing that with Busters and balancing its online competitive format. These games are willfully alienating the people that spend so much time stat maxing for the competitive format that some Pokemon fans are willing to pretend is the "challenge and postgame" of a Pokemon game.

    I mean, online battles still exist. At least. It's in the Union Room format though, which I'm not too familiar with.
    Then why on earth bother cutting the Ranked battles?
    No idea.
    I've had this conversationthat made me think.

    Some Pokemon fans act like the physical/special split is some kind deep and intricate feature.

    Honestly, it's not. Other monster collectors years older like Dragon Quest and Shin Megami Tensei had their stat layouts already organized for this kind of thing and followed the traditional RPG stigma that any elemental attack is a magic attack.

    If it wasn't for sites like Bulbapedia, we wouldn't even know this kind of information since the game doesn't tell you at all which elements are physical like Normal and which elements use magic like Dragon.

    So the physical/special split isn't really depth or new cuz it's just something other games had already. It's just something they made to somewhat remedy years of bad game design.
    No, there weren't.
    Everything else benefitted from it but those two. I don't really need to trust you cuz I already know this stuff from studying the meta for years.
    Flareon is probably the only other thing you could make a case for but that thing suffers from SO many other issues that are a problem with Pokemon in general.

    EDIT: Sceptile, actually. Seriously struggling to find any other examples tho.
    Just looked back, other than the ones you mentioned and Banette, couldn't really remember much else. Probably forgetting one or two things, but such is life.

    Well anywho, the buffs of the physical/special split changed how good certain Pokemon were. Things like Huge Power Azumarill, Absol, Sharpedo, Shiftry, Feraligatr, etc, appreciated finally being able to use STAB off their superior physical stat, for instance. There wasn't too much notable on the Special side other than the Ghosts being able to enjoy Special Shadow Ball, among a few other things I'm probably forgetting.
    Dude, I already said earlier everything else benefitted from it. That would include all those examples. Bannette is in the same boat as Flareon where it's an issue of almost everything else with bad Speed, no Fighting coverage and power creep.
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