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  • Why you like Smash 4 so much.
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    StoicPhantom
    I wouldn't really say I liked it a lot. Just like it more than Ultimate from a strictly competitive standpoint of which I view Ultimate as a more limited Smash 4. I think Ultimate wins in most other respects other than things like online and controls.
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    Came by Catching Zss again, after two years. It's funny, I actually showed up on his stream:
    I went Sephiroth, but I played well.
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    This ****ing wifi Bowser """"""""""3 stocked"""""""""" me, and it just felt like wifi was doing the work for him. I kept misspacing **** and he just kept doing Up B OoS and dumbass attacks that would land because wifi. I considered kicking him the first few seconds, but I won't kick someone like that without a rematch. Jackass just left, thinking he's the ****, when he's just another ass wifi player who can't do squat offline.

    And this is where I always say, it's hardly ever the actual good players that don't rematch you. It's always the ****ty wifi players that think they're too good to give you a chance. They're so bad, they don't even know they're bad.
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    Oz o:
    but yeah, beyond that, I've been doing really well. Improving my mixups and normals game with Zelda, which I definitely think is a key to really being exceptional with her. Neutral B won't save your forever. Played a good, patient Marth, and I felt really good about my game in those sets.
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    Oz o:
    Otherwise known as "25-year old grown-ass man vents over a children's videogame".

    :D
    Managed to play wifi and have fun two days in a row, so I don't know what's up. Also playing kind of better, getting some insane strings and frametraps.
    But then I had to turn off because the GC controller is too noisy and bugs my mother.
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    Joycons weren't noisy. Joycons are great.
    Alicorn
    Alicorn
    Joycons being great is a rare statement in the smash community.
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    Oz o:
    Well, I would know. I legitimately chose them over GC controller in spite of using the former for 2-3 weeks in the beggining. I only used Joycons a single night, and I basically got far better used to them. The layout is more comfterble, such as things like C stick being a lot closer (makes RAR Bair'ing easier). I also much prefer the stick over the other ones, because it's a lot shorter and it feels like I reach the input faster.

    I've used them for almost two years, but ultimately went with GC. Joycons aren't the most sturdy, I can't afford replacing them.
    You know you're ass when a main of your character can't stand you in their Arena...
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    Oz o:
    I currently use the Zelda icon in online. I was using Byleth at the time, and this Zelda stopped by and he kept Teleporting in neutral. It was really annoying.
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    Oz o:
    And I think he's literally the only Zelda I played so far, in the U.S. They were pretty uncommon in South America, and I haven't seen another single Zelda player. Was it just some kind of season where they were a thing?
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    StoicPhantom
    I've always found Zelda to be one of the rarest characters. I never really got why people always complained about her being so popular.
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    I can’t sleep. I’m too excited over adding those things into my game. It feels so good to have a solid idea of what you can really do to improve your game, without it being all abstract and vague stuff.

    Really looking forward to trying that, tomorrow.
    How do you stop being negative.
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    StoicPhantom
    Be positive.
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    StoicPhantom
    Seriously though, you just have to find things that make you feel positive. Having good friends or accomplishing things and things along those lines. Though some people just simply have a disposition towards negativity. Though I would also say that negativity is still relative to the subject at hand too. You don't exactly want to be positive about negative subjects.
    Doc Monocle
    Doc Monocle
    That is a very good question... A question for the ages in fact! We are negative because the world around us feeds us stimuli that tend to promote negative responses. This means that being positive is an uphill battle, a battle you will lose without outside help. I suggest you take time to yourself and ask out loud if there is a friend who cares for you. You have my word that if there is one, you will be heard.
    It's funny how the actual solid players are the ones that do rematch you multiple times.
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    StoicPhantom
    Yeah, it really does show you the difference when people aren't afraid to rematch you. Whenever I was just trying to learn a character I would sometimes just sandbag online and sometimes I would run into people that would taunt me for like an hour while I was using them as practice. But they weren't that great and in Smash 4 I would sometimes switch to my main and body them after a bit and they would immediately leave lol.
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    Oz o:
    Fought a ZSS that kind of trashed me Game 1, and I was mad because I really expected him to do the ass move and leave... but he stuck around, and I really showed him. Went even for most part, very back in forth. He was pretty solid, but he also ran away a lot and still made it fun to play.
    it’s funny how the mind tries to sink me deeper
    As the evil tries to turn me around
    I will not falter, shout at the devil
    As I bury them six foot underground
    The hours trapped in windowpane
    As it all locks me in chains
    The heartless ride and happy
    I took my dock apart. :D
    i am rebuilding it now
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    StoicPhantom
    Oof.

    What was the problem?
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    No problem, I just put the insides into a way smaller dock. Apparently some people do that, and I can see the appeal. I only did it because I thought the replacement dock would allow some sort of portable setup. But, sadly, it only works when connected.
    Oz o:
    The darkest of night falls around my soul
    And the hunter within loses control
    Gotta let it out
    Gotta let it out

    This demon inside has a hold of me
    Clenching its power trying to break free
    Gotta let it out
    Gotta let it out

    All of these thoughts running through my head
    I'm on fire, face burning red
    Frustration is getting bigger
    Bang bang bang
    Pull my Devil Trigger
    Had my first weekly since before April, last night. I'm in the U.S right now (Florida, specifically), and apparently there's some areas that still hold weeklies. The one I went to was pretty small, hardly any players, but at least it was pretty enjoyable. We actually played outside, since it would've otherwise been too packed.

    Did pretty awful, in bracket and even in most friendlies. There were times I managed to show glimpses of my real skill, but very sparringly. Regardless, I was surprisingly calm the whole time. Even that was miles better than online.
    i bought m1nm1n
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    Oz o:
    yeh
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    I really do like her. She's more technical than people give her credit for, with her (actual real) combos and stuff you can do shifting between arms and all that. She's also not that slow, and it's the same thing people do with Zelda and other characters that turn them boring and onedimensional when they have a lot more going for them.
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    Oz o:
    I'm also reluctant to spend 6 US$ just to "try" a character, so I really had to make sure I liked her. I checked all data I could on her, and ultimately just rolled with it.
    Played really well today. Going from my laggy living room TV to the one in my room (both with Game Mode) feels like going from the gravity chamber x500g to taking the weight off.
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    StoicPhantom
    That Byleth Up-B cancel is an interesting thing. Is that something you do for aesthetic purposes or do you do it for specific spacing purposes?
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    Well, it feels good, for one, but I'd be lying if I said there wasn't an actual use (otherwise players like MKLeo wouldn't do this with Joker). I think they stall a little more in the air and don't have to deal with fall speed that way.
    Guess I love Zelda.
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    StoicPhantom
    Yeah, I saw it not too long after it was first discovered. I noticed it before I read about it and thought I might have discovered a new tech but it turned out to be this. I don't have much to say as I haven't had time to lab but early impressions are that it is actually ok at full hopping over attacks and punishing with Phantom at the same time. Quite a lot of potential overall.
    For the first time in around 6 months (quarantine), I actually felt good playing offline for the past 2 days. I feel all wifi did was **** up a lot of my timings. I did learn a lot of things in these past 6 months, but it was on wifi, and it looks like I never got it down offline since I could hardly practice it. I messed up in a lot of subtle things, like tournarounds at the right moment, and small things of precision like that.

    These two days were a lot different, and it's been a very long time since I actually felt, not only content with my play, but outright happy about it. It's always been constant disappointment, for the longest time.
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    I'm starting to actually incorporate RAR Phantoms, and it's flowing smoothly. I started pulling off some of my combos, even.
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    StoicPhantom
    Yeah my friend and I did some teams yesterday and had really good connections for the first time in a long time. It really is a completely different experience when there's no lag and we actually had fun with the game for once. My friend was almost about to explode over being able to body this guy who was trying to do WiFi Cloud shenanigans after we destroyed his Steve.
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    jajajaajaj steve
    It's funny. I played this incredibly mashy Sheik who kept interrupting my stuff with A and making me misbuffer a lot of things because of it. Beat me the first two times, and then I just won 11 consecutive matches, and 2-stocked him like the last 4 matches. The guy basically gave up and just started throwing Needles all the time until I was at 200...

    And then I've had a couple of incredibly laggy-ass matches against really bad players, and I won every single match from there onwards. I'd usually feel really annoyed and tilted at all of this, but I was just calm all throughout and even 3-stocked two players in these ridiculously laggy matches (I wasn't even failing my Teleports).
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    xzx
    "Incredibly mashy player" welcome to Ultimate, were you get rewarded for mashing because of the low hitstun.
    Trying a new thing. Not 100% aggressive, but I'm hardly passive either. It's something like alternating between consistently interacting and then backing up a bit and doing a RAR Phantom. Been trying it out for about an hour, and it seems pretty dynamic. I think this might be it. There were times I wasn't doing Phantom enough, or not alternating different phases enough.

    I seemed to have kept my pace for most of it, fluidity and there was significantly less mindless rushdown.
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    StoicPhantom
    Yeah that is more or less how you play the game. You keep hitting them until it becomes difficult to do so then you just run back and try to bait them into approaching. It's part of why this game is really limited and shallow in my opinion. It takes an insane amount of space to deal with mashing or really campy opponents.

    But it does sound like you are starting to get the hang of it. Phantom is good precisely for getting your opponent out of those defensive situations and if you get that flow down you can effectively keep alternating between decimating at close range and harassing at long range that will open up some really ****ing cool combos you can do off of Zelda's specials.
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    yeh I can show you later
    Did you see this?
    There was a time Shofu made a reaction to one of my clips.
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    StoicPhantom
    I have now yes. It's amusing that he didn't really believe you actually did that. I honestly don't understand this obsession with hitting true combos as opposed to landing mixups. True combos are just a function of how the hitstun works; anyone can do them with enough labbing. Being able to land multiple mixups in one go is way more impressive IMO.
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    Didn't really take it personally, but I do agree with what you say. People do have this sort of fixation of true and garanteed combos. If you can do something by reading people, it's definitely more impressive.
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    Oz o:
    I thought he like. ):
    Our best player beat Sparg0 in a set of friendlies (I think 3-0):

    South America's best players are definitely very competent, and I wouldn't be surprised if our best is Top 3 in South America as a whole.
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    I wish fighting game devs would stop being dumb and actually implement good online so we can just host our tournaments and stuff online and not have to worry about travel expenses preventing good players from around the world competing outside their country. I think having more players like this Ken challenging established players would be fun to see.


    On an unrelated note: I really hate what they did to Cloud in this game. He's basically DJ Fair the character and he looks, feels, and plays really lame compared to the really cool Smash 4 version. It makes him really exploitable by characters like Ken that can just pressure him from the inside.
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    That was to give you a real scope to the kind of players we have here, even if they might not outright be top level or Top 10 of the world. I'm sure they could still compete for PGR Top 50, if you ask me.
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