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  • If you're new to Smash and want a game that rewards you for not busting your ass, Ultimate is the game for you.
    Smash Ultimate is very frustrating to me. It frustrates me how it's easy for everyone else, and I, someone who has played competitive for years, have a hard time doing well at the game. It's demorilizing how people who've only picked up the game within months can do as well without needing to have put nearly as much time and effort (especially all the emotional investment that went with it). Newer players should be grateful that this new game gives you these things in a silver platter without having to have had gone through any of this.

    You don't know how it feels.
    Oz o:
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    If you've built up on the hours like I have, it just starts grinding on you whether you're concious of it or not. It's really hard to tell, until offline events really come back.

    And no, I don't take anything of what you say the wrong way.
    Janx_uwu
    Janx_uwu
    I feel the same way about a lot of things. Sometimes it's smaller, like "Where will people put Min Min on an offline tier list?" And it's also bigger stuff, like what you said-it can get difficult to tell if you, the game, or the connection is the problem. (Sorry, I couldn't tell you were talking about online, that's why I referred to offline at first). I urge you do find some way to enjoy online more, as I assume it's all we've got for the long haul. Whether that be playing with items, investing in a LAN adapter (if you don't already have one), trying new characters, finding a smallish smash group around your skill level with a good connection on Discord or Facebook, etc. Whatever you can do to make Smash more fun over the internet. Stay away from Quickplay and Elite Smash as often as you can-it never does anything good unless you're playing with items or something like that. (At least, in my opinion).
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    Yeah, Quickplay is trash. I often play it, and it has a lot to do with my opinion. I undertstand I'm partly responsible, since I keep going there, but at the same time, you can't really blame me for wanting to have fun once in a while- but even that is hard at times. It's hard to have fun when you're losing to worse players or misinputting or misbuffering half the match.
    Standing
    On the edge
    Of the crater
    Like the prophets once said
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    And the ashes are all cold now
    No more bullets and the embers are dead
    Whispers in the air tell the tales
    Of the brothers gone
    Desolation, devastation
    What a mess we made, when it all went wrong
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    Smash Ultimate is a very confusing game for me. I never enjoyed a game like it, as well as hated it as much as I do. And as funny as it may sound, it really isn't. I can't even go a full week without voluntarily dropping the game. I feel I invested way too much time in it, and it's like a part of me is hoping it will one day get better.

    Sometimes I really do feel there's something out there that really wants me to have the worst of it. It's very frustrating. Were I to just hate the game, it'd be a lot easier to let it go.

    The illusion of hope plays with your mind...
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    MattOnwheels
    Or, you know, you could just...accept that its a flawed game and still enjoy it. Neither extremes are healthy anyway,
    Oz o:
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    If you've been playing competitive for years, it's incredibly hard to just accept seeing people you're better than do better on wifi and beat you. This is the only Smash game I've really had that issue with, where skill doesn't translate as well unless you're at higher levels or just playing boring. This happens a lot online, and it's sadly the only means for a lot of us until weeklies open back up.

    If you started competitive with this game, it's not as likely you'll notice it, and it's easy to just brush it off and move on.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    Makes me wonder why I even bother invested so much time in improving on certain areas of my play when other people can just do well with half the effort.

    It's insulting.
    the more I look back into Dragon Ball clips the more I lowkey ship Goku with Bulma
    Ben Holt
    Ben Holt
    Nah man. Bulma's older than Goku.
    That's sub energy right there.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    They could've easily gotten together once Goku became adult. It's only a 4 year difference.
    Goku and Milk got together when they were about 18-20.
    "mom, if I wanna talk boys, I'll call dad... at least he's succesfully dating one"

    BURRRRNNNNNNNNNN
    BonafideFella
    BonafideFella
    call my mother and apologize to her presumably indifferent facial expression
    I realise I prefer "toxic" people that are honest with themselves and not people who try to mask themselves behind a fake banner of "positivity" and they likely have the same struggles we do, and just do that to be comfterble around others.
    I don't know why people are surprised when a 12-13 year old is good at Smash and not when grown ass men play a children's video game. :D
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    Just because I think it doesn't mean I hate Smash.
    Alicorn
    Alicorn
    I was considered good at Smash when I was 9 though I think being able to keep up with those over twice your age is worthy of praise in its own right.
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    StoicPhantom
    You can acknowledge a game is for children and their families and still play it people. It's not like he won't play it simply because it's not targeted exclusively towards adults.
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    Every day I'm more and more convinced Ultimate online is purposely bad so bad players can feel good about themselves.
    Ben Holt
    Ben Holt
    Wanna play me?
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    I live in Argentina, I rather avoid players from North America.
    I used to not understand how people found conventional attractive people, well, attractive. I think the only reason I "understand" it now is because of social conditioning. I might find certain aspects of a person attractive, when it just seems to go under the radar for most people.

    And yes, I'm simply talking about physical attractiveness.
    It's ****ing depressing doing something you're supposed to love, but it's also like half your misery. This is Smash Ultimate, to me. If I don't play it, I'll likely still feel a void that I could never achieve what I wanted to.

    If it were as easy as people made it out to be, then I'd hate it and just be done with it, but I can't. It's a huge contraddiction.
    Nah
    Nah
    Quitting doesn't necessarily mean dropping the game entirely. You can still play in a less competitive way and still keep up with the game's/series' competitive scene.

    I understand how you feel though, the frustration of hitting what seems to be your limit despite all your efforts, and that limit not being satisfactory.
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    I'm not calling it my "limit" until I get a taste of real tournaments again, so this means no crappy wifi compromising my skill. A lot of it actually has to do with just online, because I feel it's the only option for most people right now, and I'm horrible at it. I know I'm better than 90% of people I play online.
    today I'm dirty
    and I want to be pretty
    tomorrow I know I'm just dirt

    we're the nobodies
    wanna be somebodies
    when we're dead
    they'll know just who we are
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    Some children died the other day.
    We fed machines, and then we prayed.
    Puked up and down in morbid faith.
    You should have seen the ratings that day.
    I always wonder, what is it about Ultimate in particular that frustrates me so much, as well as the fact that I feel like I've regressed rather than improved in over a year. And never have I ever wanted to quit as much in any other Smash game as I did here, in only the span of over a year.

    This probably isn't even taking online into account...
    I have this stupid thing where I have a say on something I disagree in, but I do so in a candid way, and then I regret it and get all apologetic...

    I hate that. I don't want to have to apologise for a wrong I didn't do. If you're anything like me, learn to correct this. Don't be "nice".
    Teabagging is as stupid as the 69 "joke". Everyone thinks it's funny, but nobody's actually laughing.
    Imagine wasting hours of your life in something that you love but you're also just suffering half the time. "Half the time" is very generous. I really want to be good, and I'm tired of losing to legitimately worse players because of wifi (three months of suffering and counting).

    I hate it when people tell me to just stop playing, because it's not that simple. I really want to be good. I really want to be able to just relax and enjoy, but I can't. Everything just bothers me. I can't play wifi without getting annoyed everything. I already invested around 2000 hours in Ultimate, and it pains me everytime people suggest me to just quit.
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    link2702
    link2702
    I would say quit wifi and take the plunge into actual offline tournaments but....well...obviously the situation the world is in right now makes that impossible.

    I'd say to quit stressing over online the best you can. Smash online is lousy. Even having a match with someone with a "good" connection, the lag is still bad enough to make you miss techs and things that you wouldn't offline.

    It's all you can really do. Smash's online is never gonna not be garbage, so all you can do is try to not stress over it anymore. Not quite the answer you want i know, but it's the best I can tell you. Also avoid quickplay entirely and just go through arenas. Nerf_0 is a good arena to join, has plenty of good players, and you can chat with folks in the chat room on twitch. yeah It might be slow since if you lose you go straight to the back of the line, but you'll likely have a far more enjoyable experience in there, on top of being able to ask for advice from people who might main your character(s)
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    Quickplay is definitely a great part of this. Sometimes you really just want to play the game, and it makes it feel like it's your fault for even doing that, but you really just want to play the game and end up "paying" for it.
    I would really like to slow down and think before I speak. Society has this dumb habit that it's apparently better to speak fast, and that apparently no one has time to stop and think in spite of having time to check your phone every two minutes.

    We speak quickly in fear that people won't stop and give us the time to think.
    How in the world are you supposed to get better on wifi when it feels like you're incapacitated.
    Do you feel like The Universe literally doesn't want you to do something.
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    KirbyWorshipper2465
    Couldn't tell ya, all I know is that it wants me to be proven wrong about anything as long as said thing doesn't happen.
    Has anyone ever encountered one of those people that try to cover their mouth when they cough.

    But their fist is made into a whole, so there's basically no point in covering their mouth in the first place.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    I assume that's far better than getting it into other people, but I'm not ass and not everyone thinks like me.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    In my country, people literally get offended if YOU get offended by them coughing or sneezing on you.
    Zachmac
    Zachmac
    I was half-joking, but I'll agree its better to cough into your hand then to not cover it at all.

    Its just that you also use your hands to open doors and such, so health professionals usually encourage people to cough into their elbows instead.
    EYES WIDE OPEN
    I STAND ALONE
    I'M NO HERO
    AND I'M NOT MADE OF STONE

    RIGHT OR WRONG
    I CAN HARDLY TELL
    I'M ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HEAVEN
    AND THE RIGHTEOUS SIDE OF HELL
    Ever since I became an "adult", I realise how stupid certain things about society are. In particular, this dumb thing where people pretend things don't bother them and pretend to be all cool and unphazed, instead of saying something. Like, people are afraid to be honest and straightforward about things, and would rather hide it in some form of sarcasm or indirect attitudes.
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