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  • Byleth, the most hated DLC and FE character, the "other generic anime swordsmen" is ironically the most uniquely built out of the FE characters. He has a lance and a huge axe, as well as a sword that turns into a whip. The lance part is what attracted me the most. Characters with disjoint usually have a sword.
    It makes me feel really well, to play well. It's a really good feeling. In Ultimate, it's rare that I feel that all the time, but it exists. Ultimate really is quite a volatile game, especially if you happen to "press a lot of buttons". Passiveness was never my thing. I feel it's a waste to have a game which so much and just settle for that...
    Doc Monocle
    Doc Monocle
    I do not play Ultimate (as you probably know by now, I am strictly from Brawl), but it would be difficult for me to call myself a defensive or offensive player. I used defense only to keep from risk taking, and I used offense just to keep the opponent from playing safe. On a scale of one to ten for passive tendency, I probably rate as an imaginary number!
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    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    Play Ultimate.
    Doc Monocle
    Doc Monocle
    I would (long story). I might even one day, but by then, the next two or three games might be released. Besides, I find it fun trying to assist driving from the back seat. It is challenging to my speculative and analytical skills and stimulating for my memory.
    Zelda drives me crazy.

    In a good way.
    Goomboi
    Goomboi
    You should play, ultimate is pretty good. You probably have a reason tho. I will tell you if I find anything.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    Brawl was my favourite game until Ultimate.
    Doc Monocle
    Doc Monocle
    It was a good game, but is probably considered a dinosaur by now-- a mere fossil-- by many hardcore gamers. It had a good roster, decent graphics, and plenty of content for casual players, but... Hehe! Brawl maroons like myself would likely not sound too good trying to make second-hand comparisons.
    Ultimate has the potential to be an amazing game, and you see that a lot in clip compliations like The Salt is Real. And yet, so many people insist on making it boring and "toxic" and hard to tolerate on things like online. I see this game, compared to other ones, and I feel you can do a lot more with any character.
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    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    True. But Ultimate's online does suck though. Half of the time, I feel like I can't get any of my moves in because of the delay input frames of the lag. Playing Smash online can be a ***** experience most of the time. But in regards to characters? There are so many characters with untapped potential like Bowser Jr., Duck Hunt, Pac-Man, Ridley, the Belmont boys, ect. So many characters, so many people overlook in their potential.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    I main Zelda and I know the kind of crazy things she can do firsthand. So many players settle for using only 3-4 moves of her kit and then say she’s mediocre and only shines on wifi.
    Go tell that long tongue liar
    Go and tell that midnight rider
    Tell the rambler, the gambler, the back biter
    Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
    Tell 'em that God's gonna cut 'em down
    Why do people **** around so much in Ultimate's online in the U.S? They're basically trolling, a lot of the time. I used to complain when I was in Argentina, but it's not nearly as bad as what people do here.
    S
    StoicPhantom
    I don't really have any reference, but I guess that's just what they do. I honestly thought this was normal for Ultimate tbh. But maybe we have a greater share of the world's trolls?

    Though I can't really say I experience too much trollish behavior because anytime someone tries they just get bodied until they start playing seriously and then leave immediately after. Though I did have this one Lucas who was very dedicated to his brand of trolling even though he kept losing. Almost had to respect him for that even though he was running one stock and mashing projectiles while teabagging.
    RetrogamerMax
    RetrogamerMax
    I was playing as Ganondorf against this really good Lucas player the other day and we beated each other a bunch of times. I beated this guy 17 times yet when he manged to get me off stage and somehow edge guard me from back on, he teabag me a couple of times. We were both pretty skilled against each other as I read a lot of his moves getting Smash Attacks on him and he attempted to get me off stage a few times trying to spike me, which he did mange to do a few times.

    I don't know why some players teabag even if it's against another player of their level, but what I can assume for Americans is trolling is somehow part of the meme culture which it really shouldn't depending on how you do it and how you look at it.
    I'm the only one capable of 3 stocking someone and still feeling I played bad.

    And still somehow manage to lose the set.
    ****ing hate people that sit still the entire match, they only make the match go longer
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    I'm not saying it's not an issue, I'm just inquiring on the whole thing.
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    It is campy. Just faster paced campy.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    I just have a weird understanding of what camping really is. For me, it's mostly projectiles and never approaching.
    Smash Ultimate is literally the ultimate cursed reality where mediocre players have their chance at being """"good""", especially with lockdown and online.

    It's perfectly orchestrated.
    Is it normal people on the US are even worse on wifi? Half the people I play just spam taunts and **** around. They're not even playing, they're basically just trolling. Must've played like 10 players like that. And then I played some that seemed like they were taking it seriously and just started ****ing around the moment you started beating them.

    what the hell
    I love Zelda. Not romantically, I like to think. I really like how beautiful, and I hate how lowlives sexualise her. She's beautiful, and prestine, with not an ounce of sexuality showing.

    I like seeing her, her lovely smile. It's how I became a Zelda main since then, and I became very involved with Ultimate as a whole (I didn't care much before then)... but then it's also why I keep coming back, and why I feel I can't quit.

    It makes me sad when I can't do well at the game. I don't know why it brings me down so much.
    I hate how much my brain eats on my performance on playing well. It shouldn't be this ridiculous. I drop literally everything, and I get punished for it.
    Why the **** is Sephiroth stabbing the ground next to Zelda.
    Just finished practicing MinMin. This character is ****ing insane. It's crazy the kind of things she can do with the different arms to extend her combos. She really is a super technical character. :ultminmin

    Had to drop there before passing out or my hands dying first. :halfsheep:
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    I ditched online. I'm only playing offline and I still think she's really good.
    xzx
    xzx
    Yeah she's at least high tier for sure.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    yeah don't get me wrong she's annoying as hell on wifi, all people do is stretchy arms (then gain, this is wifi). I tried that offline and my friend just went over there like 90% of the time. Like, casually.
    Is there any hope for Bandanana Dee or this only 3rd party.
    RealPokeFan11
    RealPokeFan11
    I mean... we got Min Min, who is first party and was also promoted from a spirit to fighter, so I'd say the doors are open for Bandana Dee.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    thank I really want him to get in it's also from one of Sakurai's main game series
    Lowkey want to actually try out Minx2, but I don't know if that alone is worth 6 dollars.
    At the end of the day, I simply love Smash- and especially Ultimate, which is very ironic. What is probably my most favourite Smash game has the things I most hate.
    Why is Bowser considered better in Ultimate than in Smash 4? In Smash 4, he basically had his own "ding dong" combo that could kill under 100 (much like DK) with a really big window on all characters. His Up B was Frame 6 as it's always been, and the only real difference is that his Side B is like 2 frames faster, but then it killed a lot better in Smash 4.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    He's super strong. He's very hard hitting with good speed and Tough Guy. What more could you ask for?
    DrCoeloCephalo
    DrCoeloCephalo
    What changed is aerials became safer, dash cancelling attacks became an option and grabs became unsafe. A character with a strong command grab, big, powerful aerial attacks and strong Smash attacks that can be cancelled out of a fast running speed is going to get stronger from that.
    Ultimate online is a literal insult. Thank God I didn't pay an actual 20 dollars for it.
    Quitting online for good. It's ****ing worth it. There's no way I'll get better playing online, and it's not like I even enjoy it half the time. It's horrendously bad, and no respectable player deserves it.
    I don't think I really understand why MKLeo uses Byleth instead of Joker online. Joker can very much play like a wifi character by just doing Ea > Dash Attack/Dash Grab like the tons of bad wifi Jokers I've seen (sadly, it works). Now imagine someone that actually knows how to use him.

    Byleth's actually not even good on wifi. They're worse. Precision and spacing goes down, and it's not like MKLeo abuses dumb things like overusing Smash attacks or Side B.
    Pokelego999
    Pokelego999
    It's called playing who you like.
    Oz o:
    Oz o:
    No, it isn't. He didn't drop Joker on wifi for no reason.
    Ridley64
    Ridley64
    If he's good at it, he's good. I main Bowser because I'm good at him. I would take up another main if I found that I was better with them.
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