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> (ESAM gets 13th)I had him winning the whole thing, too. He says he was outplayed on his Twitter. ;_;
historically pooped on in Brawl, and the characters' strengths haven't changed enough for that assessment to be much different in Sm4sh.
Two hits, 5% and 11%, for 16% and same as a clean Up Smash. You're glad we aren't playing Melee as it did 18% total; 5% first hit and 13% second. What's supposed to keep it in check other than Fox being unable to reliably connect Uair out of U-throw like in Melee and like Falco is the small hitbox. Fox has to be under or right inside of you to land his Uair since the hitbox is more vertical than say, Captain Falcon's where it's arcing. It's also supposed to be kept in check by Fox's fall speed, air speed, and that you can potentially whiff either hit because something weird happened with the first hit or you hit late only get the second hit. Hitting with the second hit-only is like hitting with Ike's Nair or Fair which aren't exactly fast and since it's a two-hit, it's even more telegraphed. Oh, and landing lag too, but it's not really going to be used in short hop, so that 22 frames of landing lag isn't really that bad. With staling taken into account - it should be doing 64% if you get 4 fresh hits -, but since Larry was able to chain 4 of them, he only did 57%. That's still a lot of percent, but at the same time... You really shouldn't be able to chain those like that on anyone and you shouldn't be getting hit like that.
That guy's legit, always creams me in friendlies. He plays many characters, and apparently plays a toooon so no surprise his skills are sharp.So I've been combing Twitter/Challonge for other insights into the final Paragon bracket (which still isn't updated
The "death pool" (D6 slot maybe?So i almost lost to Big D, a Canadian D3, in my WF of pools. It was so scary. We good tho
— ESAM (@imESAM) September 6, 2015
Larry and VoiD through without incident.
vs. was atrocious.
Non of his matches were on stream tho
Literally mained Pikachu so hard since 1996 that I've taken him into a world of Chansey, Tyranitar/Blissy/Snorlax, no problem. **** Luigi and Sheik though; and every other good character, all ground types :<
When I read 0 to death I thought it was a combo, not a single hit lol.
and are borderline solo viable by themselves, but interestingly they cover each other's worst MUs quite well. The future of these two may be to team up.
You main Pikachu when he's **** and in a tier below frickin PU (FU), which in itself is below NU. Oh the irony.
Sonic is not middle tier. A few pages ago you asked for some advice and my advice to you is that if you want to improve you need to remove emotion from your game, and that means no knee-jerk reactions to a Sonic main losing. He's still a top (~)10 character, Ally is just a very good player and Mario is also a top (~)10 character.
If we shouldn't go to stages with ceilings as low as Smashville then what do we have left? Battlefield is the only commonly legal stage with a higher ceiling.
Smashville's ceiling is not low.
I thought the " : D" would have given away that I was joking around.
I missed the set vs vinnie because i was watching pm.
You would hate Luigi, Dr. Mario, Mr. Game & Watch, and Rosalina's Up Smashes. The issues with those moves having invincibility is that there's little end lag. Mr. Game & Watch acts at frame 39, Mario, Dr. Mario, and Luigi act at frame 40, and Rosalina at frame 48. They're all partially invincible on their hit frames; Mario's invincible from frames 9-12, Dr. Mario and Luigi's invincible from frames 9-13. Only Rosalina's and Mr. G&W are different; Rosie's from frames 7-19 which is 1 frame earlier from her frame 8 Up Smash and Mr. G&W's frame 24-25, but it's invincible from frames 4-25. In contrast, Wario's Up Smash and Wii Fit Trainer get to act at frame 58 and Roy at frame 59. Wario's frame 11-13 and invincible frames 8-14, WFT's frame 14-22 and invincible frames 12-15 ending at the clean hit of frames 12-15, and Roy's frame 12-23 and invincible frames 10-23.
Invincible "Up Specials" are a common thing in fighting games. As anti-airs, they need something to challenge safely. Without invincibility or armor, you would have to anti-air by hitting before your opponent does - Falco's Side Smash is an example of this as it lacks any invincibility and is frame 17, but makes up for being transcendent allowing him to challenge anything, arcing over his head, and moves him forward or his angled up Ftilt being fast enough of a poke to interrupt aerial approaches. Famously, Shoryuken is invincible upon startup and it's a notorious anti-air. Anti-airs are generally fast and invincible. Shoruken's frame 6 in Smash 4 and in KoF XIII, Kyo's Oniyaki is frame 4 for the light and EX version or frame 7 for the fierce version. Mario's 3 Super Jump Punch might be pushing or not... Frame 6 is enough to get interrupt many things. They are, however, countered by the fact you're in the air. That means you have to land.
Mario's Super Jump Punch doesn't even have base knockback until the last, sixth hit. For the first 5 hits, they only have weighted knockback and 100 knockback growth which shouldn't be doing anything... I think. Peach and Roy are also capable of doing this with her Parasol and his Blazer. And you guessed it! Both Parasol and Blazer have weighted knockback for their looping hits. Why it's doing this, I don't know. Samus, Little Mac, and Fox can't do this with their Screw Attack, Rising Uppercut, and Uair. I'm going to assume because they're purely vertical moves that prevent this - you'll just fall out instead of being forced up - weird interaction as SJP, Parasol, and Blazer are all diagonally-moving moves.
