VaNz Stuff.. about Peach (Tactical Discussion)

[bladeofapollo]

Exarch actually moved from Florida to Wisconsin recently, so I haven't seen him much. However, we're good friends and still talk a lot. In other words I steal all his Prachy tricks!

 

[Cia]

I got 9th at a big europe tournament this weekend.

I'm equally pleased and disappointed. I didn't beat any of the big names. There were a lot of circumstances that affected my play but I'm aware that these are known as johns so I hesitate to mention any.

Anyway, I am officially the 2nd best Peach in Europe. I faced Armada in brackets and it was unbelievable. He did everything right 100% of the time. He combod me to death a couple of times. Peach ditto is not a boring match up, he did some insane things to me. I managed to catch him out like a few times so at least took 2 stocks off him but it was the hardest match I've ever played.

Just to let y'all know. He did turnip > uair and killed me. I'd never thought of that before.

EDIT: Whoops, I thought i was on my account -Vanity Angel

Nice! I can't wait to play him again at Apex (and you too!) Not to sound cocky or anything, but good (challenging) Peach dittos are so hard to come by these days.

And turnip > Uair is something I used to use vs jigglypuff. But Teczero started CCing/DIing the turnip and it wasn't good anymore. So I suppose it's good when your opponent doesn't expect it.. which you didn't apparently.

Also, macd lost to Zelda. Let's laugh and point at him.. LOOOOOL (I'm going to lose to Dazwa's Kirby after this)

 

[Rosedemon]

Mccain losing to Zelda is like a year late.

He lost to Iori at Genesis...on mute city....

 

[shehehe11]

Whats the best way to hide a stitchface so that your opponent doesn't know you have one or thinks you have an ordinary turnip? =D

 

[Cia]

Mccain losing to Zelda is like a year late.

He lost to Iori at Genesis...on mute city....

He also lost to Zelda LAST WEEK

Also, you can easily hide stitchface by moving around furiously or doing FC Nairs. people usually think i'm just showing off tech skill.. lol

 

[MacD]

"macd's peach is really scary" - tec0

 

[LumpyCPU...]

"macd's peach is really hairy" - macd

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Alright so... I finally got into melee and decided to use peach. However, I have no way of telling if my peach is coming along well or not since I have not found anyone to play but the cpu. life sux. I got vids against the CPU though.

Anyway....

 

[DoH]

Or you can just toad/parosol if you pull while they're dying so they can't see what the turnip is at all!

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Or you can just toad/parosol if you pull while they're dying so they can't see what the turnip is at all!

When peach faces to the left the person cannot see the turnip very well for it is facing away from the player. Somehow space with Fair I guess or Bair depending upon the side of the opponent you are on when facing left.

 

[john!]

Exarch actually moved from Florida to Wyoming recently, so I haven't seen him much. However, we're good friends and still talk a lot. In other words I steal all his Prachy tricks!

Wyoming?? He's in Wisconsin now I believe.

 

[VA]

How could you possibly lose to a Zelda? That's so bad. A Samus nearly beat me at the tounrmament, but I knew the shame i'd feel if I lost to SAMUS so I stepped up and ***** him. Don't ****ing lose to Zelda, two times.

Also Vanz, he did the turnip > uair on me while I was floating or something, without knowing it was coming it was hard to DI...

 

[thesage]

turnip to uair? OMGSEXY

 

[Tomacawk]

There's no shame in losing to cosmo. You guys really don't have a clue how good he is
I can't wait for the videos of that set!!

 

[bladeofapollo]

Wyoming?? He's in Wisconsin now I believe.

Right, that's what I said....

*cough*

 

[Jartravious]

What do you recommend someone switching to peach should practice?

 

[VA]

He also lost to Zelda LAST WEEK

Also, you can easily hide stitchface by moving around furiously or doing FC Nairs. people usually think i'm just showing off tech skill.. lol

There's a video of me when I was **** (could have been last week) doing a really fast dash dance to hide a stitch face from DJ combo, it worked.

 

[Shino]

At what percentage can you kill a peach with turnip to uair? If we assume the opponent has good DI

And does this also works on other characters? I am thinking of Samus and Marth.

 

[TheGeneral]

Whats the best way to hide a stitchface so that your opponent doesn't know you have one or thinks you have an ordinary turnip? =D

Dash dancing hides the turnip partially and allows you to slowly advance or retreat. Don't only do it when you have stitches, though because then it's obvious, lol.

edit:

VanityAngel beat me to it. Oh well.

 

[ConnorTheKid]

How could you possibly lose to a Zelda? That's so bad. A Samus nearly beat me at the tounrmament, but I knew the shame i'd feel if I lost to SAMUS so I stepped up and ***** him. Don't ****ing lose to Zelda, two times.

you use Daisy. everything you say is invalid

 

[Cia]

you use Daisy. everything you say is invalid

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wiq2nvvwrc

His Peach is TOTALLY green in that match.

i approve

 

[thesage]

Zelda vs. Peach is actually pretty annoying and you have to be really campy to play the matchup.

 

[MacD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wiq2nvvwrc

His Peach is TOTALLY green in that match.

i approve

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzdNB7ZykV8

his peach is TOTALLY an ugly immigrant w**** in that match

we don't approve

 

[_Keno_]

I approve.

And those 2 1/4 peach dittos at poe3 were fun, macd.

 

[Rain(ame)]

The set was close....which doesn't surprise me. Zelda does surprisingly well vs. Peach. It's her favorite high tier.

 

[VA]

lol I was only joining the peach zelda bandwagon. Cosmo is obviously legit. Also you guys who diss daisy are stupid ***s. She's got a MORE POWERFUL BAIR in PAL. It's cheating to use her but I do it sometimes anyway.

Also, I discovered a really cool use of toad.

If you get shined on FD against fox and you have your second jump, use it to ride the wall. as you're rising up do a reverse toad. When he drops to shine you the toad breath will either hit the fox and spike him, toad hits him up then down for some reason. That or the breath reflects on you and you get back onto the stage. I used it like 3 times at the tournament, it's situational but awesome.

 

[john!]

^ at poe last weekend i tried out the toad recovery. i would double jump and reach the edge about halfway through, then do the toad right before i rose above the edge. i did it at least 10 times and it worked probably over half the time, on a variety of characters. ****

 

[VA]

what? they hit the toad like I described or you just used toad to help you grab the edge?

 

[john!]

they hit the toad. if they didn't fall for it then i'd just land onstage and eat a smash attack. but if they did then sometimes i could tech chase (since they're near the ledge).

 

[MacD]

lol, i used toad on kels i know, he just had a WTF look on his face and zhu started saying something funny

i also did it against iori in our tourney match, toad's too good

both times i did it when recoverying, i was below the stage, used my jump and they tried to hit me cause i was coming up, normally i barely get on the stage cause of how it puts you a little higher in the beginning, but at the least i'll make sure i get the ledge

except it sucks so you gotta be careful about using it

 

[john!]

another time toad ***** is when like falco or someone is trying to hit you while you're recovering high. usually it's totally telegraphed by their first jump. right before they dj and go for the bair or dair, just toad their *** to the FLOOR.

also i forgot to mention, i toaded someone twice in a match using the first method, then the third time they didn't attack me and i wavelanded on stage and dsmashed them offstage. i was like MINDGAMES SONNNN

 

[Cia]

Well macd, no matter what color he uses, it could never be worse than your ****ty blue peach.

BTW, I've been thinking of some uses for toad in teams. It requires your partner to jab you out of the end lag while an opponent is still stunned from the spores (stun spore lol) it may be a bit tedious, but toad has a pretty nice arc, so.. who knows. It might be useful.

Teco - let's try that soon

 

[VA]

Well macd, no matter what color he uses, it could never be worse than your ****ty blue peach.

BTW, I've been thinking of some uses for toad in teams. It requires your partner to jab you out of the end lag while an opponent is still stunned from the spores (stun spore lol) it may be a bit tedious, but toad has a pretty nice arc, so.. who knows. It might be useful.

Teco - let's try that soon

I wish I had recorded the toad thing I described. It looks like peach teleports. Or maybe that's because I'm so slow.

 

[ChivalRuse]

ICs can't CC Peach's fresh dash attack past 39%. I just tested it.

 

[bladeofapollo]

BTW, I've been thinking of some uses for toad in teams. It requires your partner to jab you out of the end lag while an opponent is still stunned from the spores (stun spore lol) it may be a bit tedious, but toad has a pretty nice arc, so.. who knows. It might be useful.

Actually, this might work well w/ the Shield Break thing someone mentioned earlier. Peach Toads a shield while partner aerials. Partner eats spores, but possible Shield Break?

And blue is a great color for Peach. Just sayin'

 

[LumpyCPU...]

my contribution to the "tactical discussion" is that blue peach is ugly.

 

[VA]

Blue is the ugliest, by far. I recently have appreciated green, I think it's my new Peach colour.

 

[ChivalRuse]

Green Peach is sexy.

 

[VA]

So hot, also can you do that DA test on moar characters please?

 

[crismas]

I love green, but it's so overused