Uair-footstool-QAL potential death combo (video pending)

KayLo! · Jun 26, 2009

saviorslegacy said:
lol... then make the situation.

More people should have this guy's attitude.

Stealth Raptor · Jun 26, 2009

i have to agree. thunair is situational, yet i make the situation when i see it, and it tends to work. i even got a thungrab recently on someone i was testing lol

Zee725 · Jun 26, 2009

so when you're doing the uair footstool, has anyone tried doing it with tap jump off? I haven't really experimented with the uair lock yet so i'm wondering if there any special controls used or what not =]

KayLo! · Jun 26, 2009

Zee725 said:
so when you're doing the uair footstool, has anyone tried doing it with tap jump off? I haven't really experimented with the uair lock yet so i'm wondering if there any special controls used or what not =]

Imo, it's actually easier with tap jump off.

SilverSpark · Jun 26, 2009

saviorslegacy said:
lol... then make the situation.

Good attitude.

saviorslegacy · Jun 26, 2009

KayLo! said:
More people should have this guy's attitude.

SilverSpark said:
Good attitude.

thank you

Zee725 said:
so when you're doing the uair footstool, has anyone tried doing it with tap jump off? I haven't really experimented with the uair lock yet so i'm wondering if there any special controls used or what not =]

I have messed with footstools for a while now. I have made a few footstool combo's for Sheik and footstool combo's for a few other characters. I have always done it with tap jump off. I hate tap jump and in Pika's case it makes it harder to footstool.

Pikabunz · Jun 26, 2009

I don't see how tap jump makes a difference. I do it the same way with it on or off.

Tagxy · Jun 26, 2009

It doesnt make a difference unless youre trying to do it oos. I guess if you shield with L it might not be as awkward either. But its something you can get around since you can uair right after your jump anyways.

[FBC] ESAM · Jun 26, 2009

Video will be up in about 1-2 weeks. I'm sending my replays to 5ive, he is giong to edit them, and i'm going to upload it. Be patient my pikachus.

saviorslegacy · Jun 26, 2009

K Prime said:
I don't see how tap jump makes a difference. I do it the same way with it on or off.

Well.. for me when I go to perform Uair I do the second jump and over shoot.

sirchadakiss18 · Jun 26, 2009

QA Death lock setup, you can thank me later :]

Grab→Dthrow→Ftilt

Ftilt in close range makes your opponent go behind us

SH Uair→Footstool→QA

BOOM!!!! HEADSHOT!!!

I've done this so many times on Wi-fi, but I QAL instead, more flashy :X

-Japan-

Pikabunz · Jun 26, 2009

Does the ftilt have enough hit stun for the uair to connect?

gallax · Jun 26, 2009

does it need to be angled? im guessing yes. im gonna go test this.

Pikabunz · Jun 26, 2009

Yes you have to angle it, but they can just shield or jump out before you hit them with uair.

Alphicans · Jun 26, 2009

Ok this is actually really scary. I was vsing frio today in some offline matches, and like he has barely even practiced it, and he manged to get me into it. All it takes is one uair, which isn't that hard to land. This is definitely a legit combo >.> .

CaliburChamp · Jun 27, 2009

In 6 months from now, practically every competitive Pikachu player would have this mastered, and Pikachu would make it to S tier at that rate. It's scary, it's not just for a few characters, it works on all characters.

Nefarious B · Jun 27, 2009

So, since this seems pretty legit, does anyone have any strategies to avoid this?

All I have to say is, Pikachus now have something so gay that everyone else will attempt to gay you guys just as bad. Have fun with that.

PikaPika! · Jun 27, 2009

This is actually really easy to get off in a match

I screw up and QA too early alot of the times tho cuz im so eager to start it lol.

[FBC] ESAM · Jun 27, 2009

PikaPika! said:
This is actually really easy to get off in a match I screw up and QA too early alot of the times tho cuz im so eager to start it lol.

That.

Most pikachu's will try to do the QA too early, either causing you to hit them when the opponent is still in the air, or too early to not realize how the opponent is DI-ing. This technique makes it helpful if you know how to do the slight angles of pikachu's QA (the 7/16th and 9/16th in this case) so you can just jump higher, see which way they hit the ground, and QA into them.

SilverSpark · Jun 27, 2009

sirchadakiss18 said:
Grab→Dthrow→Ftilt

Ftilt in close range makes your opponent go behind us

SH Uair→Footstool→QA

BOOM!!!! HEADSHOT!!!

I've done this so many times on Wi-fi, but I QAL instead, more flashy :X

-Japan-

both of those combos are already in the Pikachu's Combo thread

sirchadakiss18 · Jun 27, 2009

SilverSpark said:
both of those combos are already in the Pikachu's Combo thread

I was telling the way to set up the QA death lock but OOPS!

forgive me >.<

I rarely ever come here :L

PikaPika! · Jun 27, 2009

sirchadakiss18 said:
Forgive Me >.<

Never !

illinialex24 · Jun 27, 2009

This is awesome on Jigglypuff

Just amazing, I love being excluded for once.

IxxI · Jun 29, 2009

Anther better use this...

SilverSpark · Jun 30, 2009

it works very well. Esam gimped me twice with it in a friendly..

[FBC] ESAM · Jun 30, 2009

An online friendly mind you :D

phi1ny3 · Jun 30, 2009

Ugh, checked to see if this could be possibly deflated, but no such luck >.<

gallax · Jun 30, 2009

i pulled it off in a match a few times last night. this was against a mario and a MK. totally legit.

Nicholas1024 · Jun 30, 2009

I still can't believe that pikachu has something like this...

So... how much will this affect the matchups?

gallax · Jun 30, 2009

absolutely none. actually, it might affect a few, lol.

Cold Fusion · Jun 30, 2009

This will probably only affect the match-ups of the characters that have litttle to no good answers to Pikachu's u-air.

Stealth Raptor · Jun 30, 2009

which is like everyone?

GimR · Jun 30, 2009

U-air out of shield has been amazing ever since Melee. I can see this working.

GOOD STUFF!

Cold Fusion · Jul 1, 2009

Stealth Raptor said:
which is like everyone?

Not Jigglypuff. Seriously, that has been said so many times and some people assume that means Jigglypuff counters Pikachu.

Stealth Raptor · Jul 1, 2009

no pikachu is still a hard mathcup for jiggs. i meant anyone who could be affected, not jigglypuff lol

gallax · Jul 1, 2009

jiggs can be tough for pika. ima gets vids of the mu when i play an awesome jiggs later tonight. more to come on the jiggs scenario.

M-WUZ-H3R3 · Jul 3, 2009

This doesn’t look like it has the potential for a 0-death. It looks like a useful damage builder that can probably be done two or three times before it is escaped.

NinjaFoxX · Jul 3, 2009

at least i got my ICs xD

someone use this in a actual tourney match then ill be impressed>.>

SkygodHorus · Jul 5, 2009

this is hard with tap jump on

J4pu · Jul 6, 2009

SkygodHorus said:
this is hard with tap jump on

cstick Uair?

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