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[SuSa]

sure there is, what if snakes dair connects with a Usmash?

It depends on the property of the usmash and what hits first...

Aerials have no priority, it's whatever hits the hurtboxes (you hit your opponent or the other way around)

Eg;

Try to beat out Olimars Uair with an aerial.... you need a long reaching, and well timed aerial (aka; disjointed and perfectly timed) to hit Olimar (FROM ABOVE)

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

I still want the Oli matchup ;-;

 

[Hot_ArmS]

i just got home from a tourney, took first and themann (a well known luigi) took 2nd

he 2-0'd me in winners but i came back from losers to play him in grands and won the whole thing

i believe its 60:40 snake, you guys are done discussing the matchup so i wont bother saying what i did lol but vids will be up soon for those interested

 

[Panix]

i just got home from a tourney, took first and themann (a well known luigi) took 2nd

he 2-0'd me in winners but i came back from losers to play him in grands and won the whole thing

i believe its 60:40 snake, you guys are done discussing the matchup so i wont bother saying what i did lol but vids will be up soon for those interested

you play snake?

 

[Hot_ArmS]

you play snake?

yep, my avatar is just a drawing of mk ****** snake with his nado cause mk is gay

k guys, ive got vids vs luigi in grand finals of tourney yesterday

All Snake vs Luigi cept when i said it wasnt

First set:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeSYaeuiNFU&feature=channel_page&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Z8oJrNMKw&feature=channel_page&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aq8jAgQFzGw&feature=channel_page&fmt=18 <---he went mk on this one

2nd set:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QK0n9u_6nYs&feature=channel_page&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCH6Y5Dx-2E&feature=channel_page&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iHL5y05b4Q&feature=channel_page&fmt=18
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eB9jn4HeEeM&feature=channel_page&fmt=18

 

[hippiedude92]

wow theemann looked abit nervous in some of the matchs. lol a a SH to jump to a airdodge is like wut? XDDD. im disappointed on how theman couldnt keep you on the air long enough espically with pivot grab which are completely vital for the match up. but once he was inside with jab range, he was a ****.

man it must be kewl playing as snake cuz u guys have toys to keep the stage in your hands haha xD

 

[AvoiD]

Ike next?

Jab Cancel, no joke, ***** Snake. Hard. And yeah, pretty sure Snake has an advantage over him, but I'd like to see what you should have to do in different situations against Ike. I play horrible against them.

 

[Ken Neth]

All you have to do against the jab cancel is SDI out of it. It's not that hard.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Last edited on feb. 10th. Explains why I have been seeing luigi the whole time.

Ike shouldn't take too long to discuss I would think if we did.

 

[Panix]

Last edited on feb. 10th. Explains why I have been seeing luigi the whole time.

Ike shouldn't take too long to discuss I would think if we did.

Ike - Knock him off stage, when he's about to recover put a mine and c4 at the ledge.

thats game. lol quick draw should grab ledge -.-

 

[Ken Neth]

I saw multiple people that wanted wolf a little bit ago. Any objections? I'll change it in an hour or two if there are none.

 

[ghoulmasser]

How about Pit?

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Wolf seems the better choice.

 

[Ken Neth]

lol, wifi sucks. PSing any lasers normally is super easy. Heck, I've been able to sit there and PS all of falco's lasers without even looking haha. You just need the timing down.

I'm updating the OP right now. I'm thinking about doing that idea we had a little bit back where we make a new thread for each match-up, so we can keep it specifically to that character's discussion. That's what the marth boards do, and I like how they have it set up a lot. I'll have it up sometime tonight for sure.

 

[Ken Neth]

Okay, the OP is updated and we are now discussing wolf. I created a new thread for this discussion, so that all the discussion on him can be found in one place without having to sort through other distractions. This system has worked extremely well for the marth boards, so I figured we'd give it a try.

Please keep all the discussion on wolf in this thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=6846479#post6846479

 

[Shadow_of_Link]

lol, wifi sucks. PSing any lasers normally is super easy. Heck, I've been able to sit there and PS all of falco's lasers without even looking haha. You just need the timing down.

I'm updating the OP right now. I'm thinking about doing that idea we had a little bit back where we make a new thread for each match-up, so we can keep it specifically to that character's discussion. That's what the marth boards do, and I like how they have it set up a lot. I'll have it up sometime tonight for sure.

I mentioned it (gotta get my credit xD).

Unfortunately though, I know nothing about the Wolf matchup (except on wifi, which makes Wolf godly >_>)

 

[Vorguen]

Dang, I was kind of hoping for the Fox matchup.

 

[Ken Neth]

Keep the discussion in the the new thread specifically for this matchup please.

We're shooting for keeping all the discussion in one place so it is easier for people to find without having to read through comments that have no correlation to that specific matchup.

Here's the link again: http://www.smashboards.com/showthrea...79#post6846479

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

I don't know of any of the rest of us have contacted you guys yet, but the Snake verses Lucario match up is beginning on our thread. Helpful advice from true Snakes would help the conversation, since it's just beginning. Thank you for your time, and sorry for disrupting your conversations.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=221578 if you want to help.

 

[phi1ny3]

^
Go to this, we need moar snake representation!

 

[Vorguen]

After Wolf is done, do Fox next!

 

[East]

The Sheik boards are currently doing the match-up discussion of Sheik vs. Snake. Any input you guys might have would be greatly appreciated. Currently only Sheik mains have been talking about the match-up [and after looking here I see that no one contacted you guys << Smooth move on our part...]. Please follow the link below to the discussion. If this does not belong here, please PM me in regards on where to move it. Thanks in Advance.

-East

Link to Discussion
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=226389

 

[SamuraiPanda]

I know the matchup has been done for awhile, but here is how you beat the ICs: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1RHRHNmVjY

:D

 

[Black_Heretic]

haha, cool match SP, but why'd he SD at the end? Did he just figure that he lost and it wasn't worth wasting the time to finish the match?

 

[Vorguen]

If not Fox, maybe a discussion versus Olimar. I still think Fox should be done soon though.

 

[yellowroy]

Olimar is finished, check the first post.

Just tech chase Olimar, it's like a 0 to death.

 

[SamuraiPanda]

haha, cool match SP, but why'd he SD at the end? Did he just figure that he lost and it wasn't worth wasting the time to finish the match?

Yeah, he gave up. Nobody plays ICs against me in tourney because they know I know the matchup. He was just trying it out.

 

[Vorguen]

Olimar is finished, check the first post.

Just tech chase Olimar, it's like a 0 to death.

It doesn't matter who you tech chase, it is no different tech chasing Olimar from anyone else. I didn't realize Olimar was finished already. I still think Fox needs to be done, he's not a pushover for Snake. :/

 

[NinjaFoxX]

wanna do yoshi?
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=227219

would like some input on this..

 

[yellowroy]

It doesn't matter who you tech chase, it is no different tech chasing Olimar from anyone else. I didn't realize Olimar was finished already. I still think Fox needs to be done, he's not a pushover for Snake. :/

LOL have you saw Olimar's roll?

It is different for every character.

 

[ICE27]

Yoshi? I got one answer for yoshi. Forward smash over the edge. Yoshi has almost no answer to that. Once you get him off the edge proceed to edge guard accordingly like so...
1)Wait for and spot dodge any egg throws.
2)Then space the F-smash right on the ledge
3)Begin to charge the smash however necessary(typically until he is in reach).

Yoshi has one answer he can spot dodge into you and get past it but, Upon reading this you can just do one of two options.

Have a down smash spaced somewhere behind you to prevent him from a safe landing or you can grab and b- throw and attempt another F-smash edge guard.

Now I'm pretty sure this is full proof I've played the best Yoshi(Bwett) in the nation and it works on him so I assume it will always work.

 

[Vorguen]

I have not "saw" anything.

Then explain it to me, I have never had a problem with Olimar that I don't even bother. What's wrong with his roll, is it worse than Yoshi's and Samus'?



lol @ if it works on Bwett it works on anyone.

 

[yellowroy]

Well I never payed attention to Yoshi's or Samus's but most likely yes,

You haven't noticed that everyones roll is different?

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

Olimar is finished, check the first post.

Just tech chase Olimar, it's like a 0 to death.

lol, good luck getting a grab in the first place. Oli's grab outranges everything you have. Pivot grab absolutely ***** Snake.

And I rly think we need to do Oli.

 

[Eternal Yoshi]

Oli has been done already. Check the first page. Anyway, just do Yoshi in their thread now.

 

[Lawlmahbawls]

Oli has been done already. Check the first page. Anyway, just do Yoshi in their thread now.

But that write up at the front page is garbage. And wtf is four stars in difficulity? out of 5? 10?

 

[ICE27]

I have not "saw" anything.

lol @ if it works on Bwett it works on anyone.

I didn't say anyone. I said if it works on him then it should always work.

I agree with the olimar match-up being remade since the olimar metagame has evolved since that match-up was posted remaking it would be advised. And yes good luck getting a grab on olimar with his grab out ranging yours and being some what unpredictable when coming out of the air since most olimar's like to predict air dodges and grab/up smash.

 

[Hot_ArmS]

omg ICE who made your sig, if its you make me one like it too lol

 

[SuSa]

I have not "saw" anything.

Then explain it to me, I have never had a problem with Olimar that I don't even bother. What's wrong with his roll, is it worse than Yoshi's and Samus'?



lol @ if it works on Bwett it works on anyone.

Samus - Really really long roll

Lucario - Epic roll. I mean, its mentioned nearly everywhere when mentioning his camp game and rolling away...

Olimar/G&W = Really, really pathetic rolls.

How have you NOT noticed that?

 

[Hot_ArmS]

lucario doesnt even roll